No brats allowed! - Page 4

[Tanibani]

Originally Posted by Storm Bride

I don't think that's the only reason. I suspect there's also the fear factor. Who are most people going to feel like tackling on the disturbance issue...a mom out with a couple of kids, or a rowdy adult who is fully grown and already demonstrating that he's too drunk/self-absorbed/whatever to care what anyone else thinks about him? I suspect that most people feel that the mom is a lot less likely to clock them if thwarted.

Wow... that reminds me of the time my son had a HUGE screaming fits in the public Library parking lot. I couldn't calm him down. I kept walking ahead and telling him to follow me, rather than be at the whim of his demands at the moment. We were 10 feet from my car when some man (looked like a normal contractor) YELLED at him to STOP IT RIGHT NOW! Figuring that the shock of being yelled at would do the trick.

No. It only made him more hysterical and now he was fearful of this dude who yelled at him and then I had to calm him down from that.

Sigh.

I (already working very hard to remain as calm as possible with DS) was calm enough NOT to react to Stooopid. I didn't say anything snappy back, because it would have been POINTless. But I think DS would have appreciated me sticking up for him. (What to do? I seriously was not intimidated and have no problem telling someone twice my size to cut it out, but it wasn't the right moment. I know it would have helped DS to "feel better." but oh well...)

DH pointed out that he would not have dared say anything if he were there. Truedad.

[chinaKat]

Originally Posted by onlyzombiecat

I was responding to the negative attitude toward children from society in general that people are bringing up here. People (society) sometimes see children negatively just because they are children no matter how they are behaving. I am not referring to anyone in this thread or the specific article that spawned this discussion. Is that more clear?

Oh, okay, got it. Thanks for clarifying.

On that point, I agree.

[moonfirefaery]

I don't think that's the only reason. I suspect there's also the fear factor. Who are most people going to feel like tackling on the disturbance issue...a mom out with a couple of kids, or a rowdy adult who is fully grown and already demonstrating that he's too drunk/self-absorbed/whatever to care what anyone else thinks about him? I suspect that most people feel that the mom is a lot less likely to clock them if thwarted.

Yeah, I think that's definitely a factor, too. Very good point. I imagine that they see a passive aggressive parent, with a rowdy kid, especially a mom, and probably assume that the parent is going to be pretty passive aggressive about being asked to leave as well--whereas a grown man being rowdy is probably going to make a huge fuss, possibly even have it escalate into a legal matter.

"We were 10 feet from my car when some man (looked like a normal contractor) YELLED at him to STOP IT RIGHT NOW! Figuring that the shock of being yelled at would do the trick.

No. It only made him more hysterical and now he was fearful of this dude who yelled at him and then I had to calm him down from that."

This is why no one has the right or duty to try to parent other people's children! If there's something that could be done, the parent is probably already doing it. What could a stranger do for a child that the parent could?

[eminer]

Oh man, as if Bush weren't enough...I WANT TO MOVE TO ONTARIO!!!

[Jessy1019]

My daughter's favorite restaurant is one that has a sign up saying, "Children who cannot behave will be asked to leave."

I love it. We bring our children everywhere, and we've never had any trouble . . . but I like the idea of being able to go places without worrying that other people's kids will ruin it for us.

I would not, on the other hand, patronize a business that banned children based on age alone. I think behavior standards are perfectly acceptable, though.

[aprilushka]

On the stroller issue-- the aquarium in Baltimore solved that problem by banning all strollers-- they give you a free carrier to take in babies with you.