Survivor comes back - with a fury!! - Page 3

[4imprints]

I saw that and I think its pretty disgusting. Why is it that when a single person says something like "blacks are better at basketball" they get hell and highwater - but these people with "power" can make a freakin contest out of it and nothing is said???????

Maybe we should point out that it doesn't include Middle Eastern or some others so it isn't "fair"!??!?

[JessicaS]

Going into television

[Sativarain1]

I personally cannot wait for the new season to start, I love this show! The teams are going to be divided by different factors every year, like others have said it doesn't last long with the merging ~

[Awaken]

Originally Posted by itsybitsy25

Just the fact that it has already generated this buzz is exactly what the producers were going for, I"m sure. How many seasons have there been already? They are just trying anything to keep up the ratings.

Quoting myself, LOL. As soon as I wrote this I turned on NPR and Survivor was being discussed on Talk of the Nation! Exactly what TPTB were hoping for, all this discussion leading up the the show, and now everyone will tune in to see how it all plays out. I don't like the idea of the race divisions but from a marketing and $$ perspective it was a smart idea on their part to 'push the envelope'.

[armonia]

Originally Posted by itsybitsy25

I don't like the idea of the race divisions but from a marketing and $$ perspective it was a smart idea on their part to 'push the envelope'.

But Survivor is so huge already, how much marketing do they really need? People will watch anyway...it is consistently one of the highest rated shows.

It is just drawing attention on such a huge scale to grouping based on skin color and it irritates me.

[Suzannah]

Originally Posted by abimommy

Moving to Television

Sorry. I thought I posted it in Televison.

[Suzannah]

Originally Posted by Missy

I don't watch survivor. I think it's trash. So, when it doesn't make headlines with dividing by gender or age, I'm not going to know about it. FWIW, I don't agree with those divisions, either. And I really don't care if the point isn't to determine "one race as the slowest, laziest..."; my point is that the history is too close, we have not moved on yet and to pit one race against the other is dangerous. There is still way too much racism and emotions are too raw.

I agree with some of your points, but how can you make judgements on something that you haven't even watched? Isn't that a bit like judging a book by its cover?

[JeDeeLenae]

Not really... I never watched "Chaotic" or "Being Bobby Brown" and think they probably aren't good quality shows to watch....

[babybugmama]

Originally Posted by Suzannah

Sorry. I thought I posted it in Televison.

You may have...I merged two threads into one. One was already in television, another was elsewhere... :

[rn]

another article.... interesting!


http://enews.earthlink.net/article/e...0824-745175476

[Cutie Patootie]

It seems to me that splitting the tribes this way will only result in making everyone more racially conscience, and not in a good way. I mean, players already try to be loyal to their original tribe and now they will be trying to "stick" with their race because that is how the game is set up to work. I don't like it...although I loooooove Survivor.

[Charles Baudelaire]

Originally Posted by kama'aina mama

I have a yucky feeling about this. In some utopian parallel universe it might be interesting but here I think it will just be ugly.

Yep. Haven't we had enough contests where basically racial superiority (and inferiority) were at stake? Man, I thought that thinking went out of style right around the time Schmeling lost to Louis or Owens took the medal in '33.

[CarrieMF]

I think the idea of this show is as disturbing as the fact that so many people here don't see a problem. We still have so far to go, there's still so much healing and so much ignorance.

There is a difference between not seeing how it is different than dividing by age and sex and not having a problem with it. I don't see it as being different than by age or sex, but then I had a problem with them dividing by age and sex.

If it is like the last one they will only be divided for the first 2-3 episodes then they'll be put into 2 teams again of mixed races but instead of the standard 14 caucasian and 4 others there will be more others(I can only remember what 2 of the non-white ones were).

I think once people get over the initial separation they will start to see that YES mixed races of people CAN get together and work together.

and as for the person who says we have not come far enough for this to serve any useful purpose. This is a reality show, it has NO useful purpose.lol

[Tummy]

IMO:
The only persons who are making a HUGE deal about the teams being split by race are the persons who have their own race issues.

I think this is a cool idea, I will watch this season (have not 100% in the past 12)


Question:
Would you be as flamed about this if it were...
Men/Women,
Teens/Collage,
Cops/X-Cons,
Elementary/Highschool,
Gays/Straghts,
Military/Pharm professionals,
WOHM/WAHM-(orWOHD/WAHD),
Blue collar/White collar,
Moms/Never been preg,
20 yr olds/50 yr olds,
Hicks-Hillbillies/Suburbans
.......ect.

The list could go on and on.

[mommy2girlies]

Originally Posted by beckyh

Thats just plain weird, I don't understand why they would want to do something like that?

Yeah that!

[armonia]

Originally Posted by Tummy

IMO:
The only persons who are making a HUGE deal about the teams being split by race are the persons who have their own race issues.

What does THAT mean? I am not saying you are referring to me, eventhough I have posted on this thread several times. But if you are, exactly what does that mean? Not getting your analysis there.

[IntoTheRoseGarden]

Originally Posted by Missy

Considering that schools in this part of the country have only been integrated for 40 years, considering that--in very recent history--laws separated the races and POC were denied basic rights, considering the racism that is still spouted by the leaders of this country now (hear about George Allen and his macaca statement?), yes, it is too soon for this type of "entertainment".

:

And I must say, I'm surprised to see so many defending this. :

It may be intended as a ratings booster, but I can say for sure that I won't be watching it.

[JeDeeLenae]

Tummy, actually I would be as upset.

I don't like when shows put two groups, that otherwise should be considered equal, against each other to see who wins. It's just another reason to say, well they one that race because "they" are black, white, mexican, young, old, female, or male. It may just be one instance, but many people are too stupid to realize that one group doesn't stand for the whole race/sex/class/age etc.

[nonconformnmom]

I don't like when shows put two groups, that otherwise should be considered equal, against each other to see who wins.

Isn't every instance of that show, and indeed, of every competition ever held, "putting two groups that otherwise should be considered equal against each other to see who wins"? That is what makes competition interesting, challenging, and why it has so much appeal. Nobody wants to see a baby race against a seasoned athlete, what would be the point of that?

It is because of the fact that they are equally capable of performing well in the competition that makes it interesting to watch and to participate as team members.

It seems to me that in order for this to be considered a problem one would have to believe the teams are not equal in capability.

Edited to add: What if the teams were all of one race, but one team wore yellow shirts and the other team wore purple shirts? Would that be considered 'inflamatory'? Would people say, "well, they won because they were wearing the yellow shirts"?

[Momof3inMI]

Originally Posted by Tummy

IMO:
The only persons who are making a HUGE deal about the teams being split by race are the persons who have their own race issues.

I think this is a cool idea,

I totally agree with you on this. :
I can't wait to see how things play out.