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post #21 of 41
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
I'm finding that many men are waaaaaaaaaay more supportive of BFing than women are, and have few qualms talking about it.
ITA, I never meet men who care if a woman NIPs. So many of them think thats what breasts are for! Its always women who have so many opinions on it
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post #23 of 41
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Originally Posted by JessasMilkMama
ITA, I never meet men who care if a woman NIPs. So many of them think thats what breasts are for! Its always women who have so many opinions on it
My DH is very uncomfortable around having my friends NIP in his presence. He had no problem with me nursing whenever, wherever (I was always fairly modest but not obsessive about it). I think that he just wants to stare at my friends' breasts so much that it makes him uncomfortable to do so in my presence. He's too turned on by it so he prefers it to not happen in his presence. Silly, eh? He would never tell them not to though, he just tells me that he feels like he always has to hide his eyes when all the women are around.
post #24 of 41
Regular WNTW watcher here ( ) - even though I'm definitely someone they'd think ought to be ON the show! ....

I'm not that certain that Clinton is homosexual. He makes some pretty risque comments sometimes .... Generally quite interested in the cleavage area. Maybe it's an act. But since nothing's been said and nothing's in his bio, I tend to err on the side of, "Well, he's Clinton" and not make assumptions in re: his orientation.

And Stacey is pretty good most of the time too - they do engineer funny quotes of course. I like them both. Given what I know of her, I'd imagine that there's a reason (from both her and Clinton's perspective) that bf/maternity were featured. She's a pretty strong feminist. The hosts take turns playing good cop/bad cop.

It's on right now, actually - I had missed it last weekend so am watching it right now. So far, so good.
post #25 of 41
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Originally Posted by mamanurse
As an EP'er (obviously not by choice), I TOTALLY think I have bf envy.
I am also an EPer (not by choice) and have BF envy.
post #26 of 41
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Originally Posted by elanorh
Regular WNTW watcher here ( ) - even though I'm definitely someone they'd think ought to be ON the show! ....

I'm not that certain that Clinton is homosexual. He makes some pretty risque comments sometimes .... Generally quite interested in the cleavage area. Maybe it's an act. But since nothing's been said and nothing's in his bio, I tend to err on the side of, "Well, he's Clinton" and not make assumptions in re: his orientation.

And Stacey is pretty good most of the time too - they do engineer funny quotes of course. I like them both. Given what I know of her, I'd imagine that there's a reason (from both her and Clinton's perspective) that bf/maternity were featured. She's a pretty strong feminist. The hosts take turns playing good cop/bad cop.

It's on right now, actually - I had missed it last weekend so am watching it right now. So far, so good.
i agree! (even with the fact that I need to be on it ) i think clinton is just clinton.....we have tryed to figure out if hes gay...now I just give up, because he loves butts and boobs.
post #27 of 41
Oh, I can't believe I missed it. I've been trying to not watch too much TV and I end up missing the good stuff! Gotta break out the DVR!
post #28 of 41
I didn't get to see the entire episode, but I was just so excited to see the beginning of this episode! (I only saw the segment where they were dumping all their old clothes.)

When my son was a newborn, I would tivo this show and got very into it -- until they had an episode with a mom of a 4-month-old who was 'sick of looking like a mom' or something. They brought her to NY away from her baby and gave her this silly makeover. I was so annoyed that they were giving her a hard time for the way she looked at 4 mos. postpartum (apparently pre-baby she was pretty stylish) and that she was separated from her baby for so long.

This episode was 100x better, because they talked about playing up your new curves, being proud of being a mom, and best of all, the new mother had her baby right there on the set with her (when they showed the pregnant moms being critiqued, the new mom was shown sitting back on the couch holding her baby and watching).
post #29 of 41
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Originally Posted by KnitLady
As if her dh (or whoever) will never love her again if he catches a glimpse of a bf'ing mom's breast.

Well, if a never-nursed-before womans DH saw my terrible, floppy, stretched out, worn out, HUGE nippled but great at feeding those babies breast...he may love her just a bit more....
post #30 of 41
Thread Starter 
Clinton's most definitely gay ladies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton...personality%29
post #31 of 41
I suspect that more gay men (than straight men) "get it" that breasts are for babies, not for men. I mean, THEY'RE not turned on by breasts!
post #32 of 41
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I mean, THEY'RE not turned on by breasts!
*sniffs indignately* Well, I can't imagine any man, even a gay one, not being turned on by MY breasts. They're absolutely fabulous... Pale, saggy, veiny, and often engorged... who could refuse?
post #33 of 41
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Originally Posted by moonfirefaery
*sniffs indignately* Well, I can't imagine any man, even a gay one, not being turned on by MY breasts. They're absolutely fabulous... Pale, saggy, veiny, and often engorged... who could refuse?
OMG, :

I almost just ruined my dh's new flatscreen monitor spitting out my drink. Hah!
post #34 of 41
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Originally Posted by JessasMilkMama
ITA, I never meet men who care if a woman NIPs. So many of them think thats what breasts are for! Its always women who have so many opinions on it
This has not been my experience. When this came up at work years ago, it was a male coworker (can't think of him as a man, he was more of a silly overgrown boy in his early 20s) who started the complaining. I wish we'd had a BFiP law then. I was pregnant at the time so I only knew a little of what I was saying (ie you can't just pump and not bf or pump for several hours while you're out, would you eat your lunch in the restroom). Later I ran into his wife at the medical clinic where I took my daughter for well checks and I always wondered what her opinion was. I wondered if she went home and they complained together about the horrid women who have the audacity to breastfeed in a medical setting. (This was the clinic where a NP told me she couldn't do a breast exam postpartum if I was breastfeeding and looked at my breasts with the most horrified expression while telling me.)
post #35 of 41
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Originally Posted by firstkid4me
A woman in my MOMS Club said that breastfeeding in public is like showing your vagina in public because breasts have been sexual since the beginning of time, her reasoning? Eve covered up her breasts after eating the forbidden fruit. :
And then she used formula?
post #36 of 41
I had a gay man tell me (while I was NIP at church) that he had never appreciated breasts until he saw us nursing. His partner agreed.
post #37 of 41
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Originally Posted by firstkid4me
A woman in my MOMS Club said that breastfeeding in public is like showing your vagina in public because breasts have been sexual since the beginning of time, her reasoning? Eve covered up her breasts after eating the forbidden fruit. :
I think she has been reading her picture book version of the bible. Pretty sure the actual text doesn't mention breasts specifically, only "nakedness." And that's just the translation. I have no idea what the original Hebrew says, and I'll bet neither does she. Herein lies the problem with using the bible as evidence to support a point. I'm not slagging anyone's faith, but you gotta admit that interpretation can be a little tricky sometimes.

And yeah. *God* is against NIP. He wants us to use plastic bottles to feed our children. The godly ancient Jews, they invented those bottles don't you know.

(Sorry, feeling deeply sarcastic tonight.)
post #38 of 41
I agree, the bible has SO much room for interpretation. Even the "pain of childbirth" thing can be refuted, because the hebrew word "etzey" is translated in that section as "pain" or "sorrow" but in other places the same word is translated as "work" "toil" and "labour".
post #39 of 41
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Originally Posted by firstkid4me
Clinton's most definitely gay ladies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton...personality%29
I was just going to say (having had several good friends who are gay) that just because a guy has a good idea for what to accentuate on a woman doesn't mean they're straight! I've found that often, BECAUSE they are gay, they seem to take more liberties with women in a flirty kinda way. Like Isaac Mizrahi(sp?) feeling up Scarlet Johanson at the Oscars. What straight man would have done that?

Besides, (religious issues aside) what's so wrong with being gay? Or, for that matter, assuming someone is gay? I know my gay friends would be more offended if you assumed they weren't gay. (And I have to say, they're pretty obvious! )

Forgive me if I'm reading more into things than I ought to be, but the way some of the PPs phrased their support of Clinton's possible straightness made it seem like they were giving him the benefit of the doubt, i.e. believing something good about someone, rather than something bad, when you have the possibility of doing either. It might be just as possible for him to be gay as straight based solely on how we interpret the tiny slice of his life we see on-screen, but a couple of people automatically assumed "straight" as if they were doing him some kind of favor.

It may have been completely unintentional, but I felt the need to draw attention to this since it puts a subtle negative connotation on being gay. My hope is that in saying something it may get people to think, and maybe get out of the straight=good, gay=bad mindset. It really could come off as offensive, and I think we have enough families here at MDC with two mommies or two daddies that we really should be mindful of the impact of our words.

Anyway, who really cares if he's gay or not? Clinton's nice and he makes a really good co-host for the show.

(Funny aside: One time my friend J and I were wrestling around, tickling each other mercilessly, and he suddenly stopped and shrieked, "Ewww! I touched your BOOB!!" acting all grossed out. And I about died laughing! I've never had anyone say that before (or since) then, and this was back before babies and nursing, so the girls were still firm and perky! After that I used to jokingly threaten to touch him with my icky girl-boobs that have the power to turn men straight with just a touch.)


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post #40 of 41
Clinton's gay? DARN! Oh, well. He can still be my TV boyfriend!
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