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post #21 of 56
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Originally Posted by littleteapot
Hon, he will NOT be too big!!! This is why we don't find prehistoric neanderthal skeletons with giant baby skeletons inside.

I have pituitary dwarfism and I gave birth naturally. What does this mean? I stopped all growth and development at age eight. My puberty had to be forced by a huge whack of hormones, but because I hit it artifically, certain things didn't happen. One of those was hip development: I never got hips. Ever. Even as an adult, AFTER having a baby, I wear girls underwear because I can't fit into even the smallest women's sizes.

But I can birth naturally.
Why? Because our bodies are MADE TO!!! We stretch, we separate, we squat and open our pelvic outlets by another 33%... we can do amazing things - your body will birth this baby just fine.
Oh, PS - in weeks 37 through 42 the average weight gain in a fetus is 2/3 of a pound, ultrasounds are off by as much as 2lbs, and fundal height estimates in no way tell you if you're having a "big baby" or not. They change depending on position, fluid levels and a number of other factors.
Babs, I swear to God I want to have a t-shirt made up of this entire quote. It is so hard to convince or even get someone to listen to the fact that our bodies work, especially if they have a history of being told that the women in their families "can't have babies naturally". I never have a really good answer, but this is great. I just read it outloud to DH!
post #22 of 56

babies are born when there ready not when dr's choose.....

Ugg i wish the medical comunity would stop planning our births on there watchs.... ok that was my little hormonal moment i'm done now.

on that note after reading all the self induction stuff i came across something called polly jean 5 week formula. Has anyone ever heard of it? or used it. I have also heard of using red rasberry leaf tea (from my midwife)
lisa
post #23 of 56
I used black and blue cohosh successfully with my first pregnancy. My water proke and I was having NO contractions. I used the cohoshes, and she was born less than 12 hours later.

This time, I started black cohosh in small doses at 37 weeks, just trying to help my body make some early progress. In the 3 ears between my kids, there has been a lot of "newer" evidence against blue cohosh. It appears to be linked to post-partum hemmorage.

Just for the record, I was 2 cm, 30% effaced on Friday 8/18 at 11 AM with baby still floating. She stripped my membranes, which did not bring on contactions. I had a pedicure, just because it would feel good. Went home and had sex with DH. By the time he was asleep, I was having GOOD contractions. Jace was born 4 hours later. Nurses all said it was any combination of those things. Stripping might have helped. Pedicure could have hit some of those pressure points. Sex surely didn't slow things.

The black cohosh comes in a tincture or extract from Henry's or most natural food stores. You can start small, like 5 drops in some tea, juice, water a couple times a day. If you don't feel any contractions, increase to 10 drops, 2-3 times a day. Slowly increase, up to 30 drops per serving. But if your baby is not ready, most likely anything you start will stop.

Good luck!

Peace
post #24 of 56
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Originally Posted by sweetaspickles
I have a small pelvic opening

I'm not sure if it matters or not but theres is also family history of having to c-section for that reason...
Ok I hope I don't get flamed for this, but I just wanted to say while VERY rare, this is possible. : I have a friend who pushed for 10 hours, at home w/ a mw (my mw in fact) & still ended up being transfered to the hospital for a c-sec, because her pelvic opening just was not big enough for this baby. I only mention this ONLY because you said their is a family history of this.

Now with that said...Again it is VERY rare that this is the case. Also I am not one for inductions I think they are generally done for the wrong reasons. And I would also be concerned about how your OB is getting these measurements & determining that your baby is too big for your body. If he knows about your familys history of c-sec he may just be relying on that rather than really paying attention to YOUR body. Also talk to him about pushing in diffrent positions such as squatting to help widen the pelvic outlet.

Either way I don't think that I was much help, but I wanted to say good luck with what ever you do decide to do. All you can do is gather info, weigh all options & decide what is best for you. Hopefully some 'natural induction' techniques work & you have a wonderful, peaceful labor & none of this nonsense matters.
post #25 of 56
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Originally Posted by maciascl
Ok I hope I don't get flamed for this, but I just wanted to say while VERY rare, this is possible. : I have a friend who pushed for 10 hours, at home w/ a mw (my mw in fact) & still ended up being transfered to the hospital for a c-sec, because her pelvic opening just was not big enough for this baby. I only mention this ONLY because you said their is a family history of this.

Now with that said...Again it is VERY rare that this is the case. Also I am not one for inductions I think they are generally done for the wrong reasons. And I would also be concerned about how your OB is getting these measurements & determining that your baby is too big for your body. If he knows about your familys history of c-sec he may just be relying on that rather than really paying attention to YOUR body. Also talk to him about pushing in diffrent positions such as squatting to help widen the pelvic outlet.

Either way I don't think that I was much help, but I wanted to say good luck with what ever you do decide to do. All you can do is gather info, weigh all options & decide what is best for you. Hopefully some 'natural induction' techniques work & you have a wonderful, peaceful labor & none of this nonsense matters.
I didn't mention the family history to him.

I was looking for natural self induction like rasberry leaf tea and things along those lines to help things along that way I could avoid the hospital induction.

my membranes are being stripped friday so that might help?
post #26 of 56
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Originally Posted by sweetaspickles
I didn't mention the family history to him.

I was looking for natural self induction like rasberry leaf tea and things along those lines to help things along that way I could avoid the hospital induction.

my membranes are being stripped friday so that might help?
Did you try the red raspberry leaf tea? I just started drinking that again since my honey is home from out of town and it gives me contractions every time. I actually stopped drinking it now because it felt like I was rushing things along and I didn't want to do that.
post #27 of 56
I just wanted to say I was a size 6-8 when I got pregnant. Before I got married I was as low as a size 1-3 and my son was 10lbs 2 ounces. He came out just fine I'm glad I was with a midwife and that we didn't guess at his weight otherwise I may have scared myself into a c-section.

If you must try something, go with sex and a breast pump! Like everyone else said though, don't let your doc bully you into an induction. And I second the Thinking Womans Guide to a Better Birth!
post #28 of 56
the only thing I'm trying is using a breast pump from time to time, and only when I'm already having contractions. It's try sex, but I"m single so thats out:

My contractions tend to stop and start a lot though - is this normal?
post #29 of 56
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Originally Posted by myhoneyswife
Did you try the red raspberry leaf tea? I just started drinking that again since my honey is home from out of town and it gives me contractions every time. I actually stopped drinking it now because it felt like I was rushing things along and I didn't want to do that.
I was told someones midwife recommended starting it at 36 weeks, so I did. I started drinking 1-2 cups a day.

at 38 weeks I started drinking about 4 cups daily.

it will give me contractions but they are irregular and not painful and then they just stop.

I've been walking also since 36 weeks...I'd say 3-4 miles in the evenings.

sex? whats that? haven't gotten any since 38 weeks...he's always "too tired" and I hate begging or trying to bribe him

I have also tried Evening primrose oil internally but I'm not sure if it has helped or not because my doctor does not do internal exams.

I'm not so sure about the castor oil I hear it can cause the baby to release a merconium stool in utero but I am very close to giving in anyways

as PP stated, I'm also have those pesky contractions that start and then stop :
post #30 of 56
Even if sex is out I think orgasm is helpful in getting the uterine muscles going.

I had a small bout of 'false' labor around 32 weeks, brought on by lots of walking in the heat and good spicy indian food (or so I surmise). So if I 'go long' this time around, I'm ready for a long walk and some good food, lol.

With my 1st I saw an accupuncturist at 41.5 wks and went into labor 12 hours later.
post #31 of 56
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Originally Posted by mojumi
Even if sex is out I think orgasm is helpful in getting the uterine muscles going.

I had a small bout of 'false' labor around 32 weeks, brought on by lots of walking in the heat and good spicy indian food (or so I surmise). So if I 'go long' this time around, I'm ready for a long walk and some good food, lol.

With my 1st I saw an accupuncturist at 41.5 wks and went into labor 12 hours later.
I'm considering a reflexologist.

orgasms help? well then, I'm on the right track

would anyone recommend a glass of red wine and a bath? someone suggested trying it but I'm not so sure that would be a good idea
post #32 of 56
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Originally Posted by dakotamidnight
the only thing I'm trying is using a breast pump from time to time, and only when I'm already having contractions. It's try sex, but I"m single so thats out:

My contractions tend to stop and start a lot though - is this normal?
I was told for first time mothers it was completely normal.
post #33 of 56
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Originally Posted by Jposey
I just wanted to say I was a size 6-8 when I got pregnant. Before I got married I was as low as a size 1-3 and my son was 10lbs 2 ounces. He came out just fine I'm glad I was with a midwife and that we didn't guess at his weight otherwise I may have scared myself into a c-section.

If you must try something, go with sex and a breast pump! Like everyone else said though, don't let your doc bully you into an induction. And I second the Thinking Womans Guide to a Better Birth!
I've also tried the pump, how long should I pump for?

both breasts or just one?

the first time I tried I pumped 5 minutes on each breast? Should I be doing it longer?
post #34 of 56
Re wine and a bath, sure I'd try it. I probably will on Wednesday (to have baby over the long weekend ), just in case it relaxes me enough to start labor.

I think I've heard to pump until you get 'tingles' or something, the letdown refex, because that's what has the hormones (oxytocin; real Pitocin) in it.

Cara
post #35 of 56
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Originally Posted by sweetaspickles
would anyone recommend a glass of red wine and a bath? someone suggested trying it but I'm not so sure that would be a good idea
Yes! If nothing else it will help you to relax & sometimes that is all you need to do. If you are tense it can keep your cervix tense too. All the methods I know have been listed, but I also wanted to suggest positive visualizations. Play out your ideal birth in your mind, maybe even several diffrent variations of it. And talk to your baby, tell him you are ready for him to come out & explain why you want to avoid medical induction. May seem strange to some, but it can't hurt.
post #36 of 56
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Originally Posted by sweetaspickles

would anyone recommend a glass of red wine and a bath? someone suggested trying it but I'm not so sure that would be a good idea

Hmmmmmm, I dunno about that?!? It would seem to me that that would slow down labor coming. I've been told by my midwife to drink a glass of red wine to see if things STOP, not start.

Deb
post #37 of 56
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Originally Posted by maciascl
Yes! If nothing else it will help you to relax & sometimes that is all you need to do. If you are tense it can keep your cervix tense too. All the methods I know have been listed, but I also wanted to suggest positive visualizations. Play out your ideal birth in your mind, maybe even several diffrent variations of it. And talk to your baby, tell him you are ready for him to come out & explain why you want to avoid medical induction. May seem strange to some, but it can't hurt.
I'm open to anything

I actually tried talking to him about it last night when no one was around

I'll try the meditation
post #38 of 56
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Originally Posted by dvons
Hmmmmmm, I dunno about that?!? It would seem to me that that would slow down labor coming. I've been told by my midwife to drink a glass of red wine to see if things STOP, not start.

Deb
hmmmm, I'll do some additional research on it thanks for the info
post #39 of 56
LOL, I think the red wine is to STOP when it's preterm labor, which can be caused by overexertion. It is to START labor when your body's tenseness is inhibiting your ability to progress. At least that's how I understand it.

I stopped contractions that I had when I was around 25 weeks (they were caused by hauling lots of firewood in the heat) with beer, but it's the same theory. We just don't normally have wine in the house. I suppose it's all about regulation. Alcohol is my drug of choice. LOL! Just kidding! I just couldn't resist...

Cara
post #40 of 56
My advice is to stop thinking and worrying about this. If you are stressed out about anything, the baby is going to come later than sooner. Your doctor giving you a deadline after which he is threatening you with something that scares you is not going to put you into the right frame of mind to let you birth naturally.

If you are tense and worried, the baby is going to stay in the safest place: your womb.

Stop worrying. Stop thinking of this as a deadline. Make peace with 41 weeks 5 days or a number you are comfortable with and go have a glass of wine and read a good book.

Stop worrying. This baby will come when it comes and you will birth it just fine. His head isn't going to be any bigger in 10 days than in 5.

The reasons they give a four-week window on 'mature' are many. We don't really know when you conceived. We don't know how long your body and your baby need to cook to maturity. We don't know how long it takes this baby to develop mature lungs. Etc. Etc.

Stop worrying. Your baby is going to be fine. Your due date is not a deadline! It's beyong ridiculous for a doctor to purse his lips and pout b/c you passed his stupid arbitrary deadline. YOU FLUNK! YOU GET AN 'F' b/c you carried past his stupid date.

Just breathe. Relax. Stop worrying. Listen to some fun music, watch a ditzy movie. Drink some wine. Have a bath. Breathe.
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