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[onyxravnos]

Originally Posted by Periwinkle

If you are delaying vaxes, why would you start at 2 months? For me, the point of delaying is to push vaxing out as long as possible, which does not include vaxing a tiny infant. If you plan to send her to school full caught up, you have a long time to begin vaxing. And I would check whether prevnar or HiB are required for entry in your state first.

Well PVC and whooping couch are the two that most concern me while he's little

[Awaken]

Originally Posted by onyxravnos

So I'm having a problem... I'm trying to figure out my vax sched beacuse ds is almost 2 months now but I'm having an issue I was hoping you ladys could help me out with. I hate that you can't get the P in the DTaP sepretly beacuse that is the one I am most concerned with but I really think tetnus is silly until ds is closer to a year... please let me know what you think, i'm kinda agonizing over this.

So here is what I'm thinking.....

DtaP 2mo 4 mo 6 mo 18mo
PCV 3mo 5mo 7mo 13mo
polio 4mo 6mo 9mo 18mo
hib 5mo 7mo 9mo
measles 20mo 24mo 4yr
rubella 12mo 15mo 4yr
mumps 6yr 6 1/2yr 10yr


or possibley switching around DTaP, PCV, and Polio to

PCV 2mo 4mo 6mo 18mo
polio 5mo 7mo 12mo
DtaP 4mo 6mo 8mo and 15mo

I am no expert, but one shot every month starting at 2 mo. and some of those being multiple vaccines in one shot is too much IMO. If you want to delay, as the pp said, it makes more sense to really delay until her immune system and the blood-brain barrier has had time to develop. If she is breastfed then you should take a look at the Hib research links posted in this forum (check the archives)- you could consider skipping that one or only do 1 shot after she is a year old. Prevnar works in a similar way- if you delay it then fewer shots are needed.

[Periwinkle]

Yeah absolutely. I mean, starting vaxes at 2 months old and doing 6 vaxes pretty much every month is not really doing anything remarkably different or protective.

The bottom line? You're starting way too early, doing way too many at a time, and are spacing the shots/visits way too close together (not enough spacing between them). (Yes I like saying "way" a lot. )

[Kate33FL]

I'm new here and I'm seeing so much diversity in the vax plans! I've used the vax inserts my doc gave me as a basis for the plan I used for my now 2 1/2 year old son. I do plan on changing it up a bit for my soon-to-be 1 year old.

I noticed that if you wait until the child is at least a year old (sometimes 14 months) before administering some vaccines, you can avoid some unnecessary shots.

As for my family, my sons are not at a great risk for getting any of these diseases because I am a stay-at-home mom...so I did not feel the least bit concerned while they were not vaccinated. The chickenpox vaccine worries me more than my sons actually getting chickenpox. The Hep B shot is a joke...right? Are they seriously innoculating the general public as infants from a disease that is basically isolated to IV drug users and sexually active adults! My children are at such a small risk from getting this disease that it would be stupid of me to allow a doctor to inject a vaccine into him that would give them such a larger risk to have other medical problems. I'm aggravated that I even have to get a waiver for these two vaccines...It's ridiculous!

Here's my oldest son's schedule:

DTaP: 10 months, 12 months, 15 months, and 2 years
Hib: 12 months, 15 months
IPV: 12 months, 15 months, 18 months
MMR: 13 months
PCV: 13 months, 15 months, 18 months
Hep B: none
Varicella: none

The # of shots per visit were:

10 months: 1 shot
12 months: 3 shots
(the leg that recieved 2 shots swelled up really bad - not sure which shot was the culprit)
13 months: 2 shots
15 months: 4 shots
(I will probably avoid this many at one time in the future)
18 months: 2 shots
2 years: 1 shot

I do plan on giving him the future doses of the MMR and DTaP, but that may change as my knowledge of these vaccines change.

I am very wary of vaccines...I don't like them, but measles, mumps, chickenpox, etc. - they are all being wiped out my widespread vaccines and my children will not get the opportunity for full immunity by catching them at some point in their young lives...so I've chosen to follow the crowd - but I'm holding out for chickenpox...the vaccine has just not been around long enough to know what it does to the older populations.

There's just not enough accessible information out there about these vaccines...and the information provided by the gov't is so one-sided...and the anti-vaccine books are also extremely one-sided. I'm just looking to weigh the risks for my individual children...I don't necessarily care about the general population...I don't treat my children like statistics.

[Kate33FL]

My new schedule for my second child will be this:

DTaP: 12 months, 14 months, 16 months, and 2 years
Hib: 18 months (I just found out he only needs one if he's older than 15 months)
IPV: 14 months, 16 months, 18 months
MMR: 20 months
PCV: 2 years (only needs one if older than 24 months)
Hep B: none
Varicella: none

The # of shots per visit will be:

12 months: 1 shot - DTaP
14 months: 2 shots – DtaP, IPV
16 months: 2 shots - DTaP, IPV
18 months: 2 shots – IPV, Hib
20 months: 1 shot – MMR
2 years: 2 shots - DTaP, PCV
(I just found out my older son was given an extra and unnecessary dose of PCV...so I'm waiting till my youngest is 2 when he only needs one dose, he also recieved an extra dose of Hib because I did not wait till he was 15 months old...so I've learned my lesson on these two)

[kerpav]

delayed vax scheduling and public school requirements?

I have been researching vaxes on my own and reading up on all of your posts. So, so helpful! I am very grateful to have found this thread.

However, in some ways I feel more confused than ever. My son is now 4 months old, no vaxes so far. I live in NYC and know there are particular requirements for school entry (and I am not prepared to not vax..but I do want to delay to make it as safe as possible for him). Found a local ped that is willing to work on whatever schedule I create , and I need to have this plan laid out for the next appt., because I think we'll start some vaxes at 6 months.

Kate33FL, I agree with your comments on HepB, but how do you get specific waivers for specific vaxes? Anyone know if that is possible in NY?

I would like to follow a similar schedule to yours posted above, but am unclear on the following. A) 1 shot of Hib is enough? No boosters needed if done at 18 months? B.) No MMR booster is required? I believe in New York City at least a measles booster is required for school entry. Also, they say at least 1 vaccine must be administered for school entry "within the previous 2 months" for DtaP, IPV, MMR, Hib, HepB, Varicella, PCV.....sooo HOW can I POSSIBLY spread out the vaxes AND meet these requirements without having to do boosters before age 2?:

Sooo confused! I appreciate any advise, and humbly applaud all of you knowledgable moms out there.

[mom0810]

Just wanted to add that my ped. told me that if I have waited this long (ds is 17 months old), that PCV is really not necessary. I may still do ONE Hib since that is all that is required. But I think you can skip the PCV if you are waiting until age 2, based on what my doctor said. I trust her because even though she is very pro-vax, she listens to me and is honest about what she thinks, based on what she has learned.

[Kate33FL]

Thankyou, mom0810...I'm going to ask my dr. (he is also working with me on this) and do some more research before I decide to x it. But that would be great if I could knock one more off the list.

kerpav, if you read my other posts you will see my experience at the Health Department yesterday. Because getting a religious waiver was so easy...I'm more inspired to not follow the recommended vaxes at all and just do what I want...it's a wonderful liberation! I hope NY is as easy for you as FL was for me, but I'm not familiar with their system.

Oh yeah, btw, there are some booster shots at 4 or 5 or something...but I think I'm going to do titers (and then make a decision) thanks to these smart mommies on here!

The list for my second child was made based on the packaging insert recommendations and my state requirements....the one shot for Hib was a state thing, I think.

[dorianboy]

DS#1 is now 27 months and this is what he has had so far, w/ no plans to continue vaxing:
10mos - Dtap
12mos - IPV, Hib
14mos - Dtap
17mos - IPV, Hib
24mos - IPV, Hib (spaced longer because lived overseas for several months)

Originally, I vaxed thinking tetanus immunity boosting would be good and I kept hearing about pertussis outbreaks in s. Illinois, but I am no longer comfortable giving him vax since he has allergies and food sensitivities. In fact, I think it was simply peer pressure to give him any in the first place. I do not plan on vaxing his brother. We don't know in which state we'll be living once school begins, but we plan to use the exemptions available for that state. Where there's a will, there's a way!

[DKing423]

What are my lee-ways?

DPT - 2 to 3 months of age - 1 dose, 4 to 5 months of age - 2 doses, 6 months to 14 months of age - 3 doses, 15 months to 4 years of age - 4 doses
Polio - 2 to 3 months of age - 1 dose, 4 to 14 months of age - 2 doses, 15 months of age to 4 years - 3 doses
MMR (Measles, Mumps & Rubella) - 12 months to 4 years of age - 1 dose, 4 years old and older - 2 doses
Hepatitis B - 4 months through 14 months of age - 2 doses, 15 months of age and older - 3 doses
Varicella (Chickenpox) - 12 months or older - 1 dose OR current lab immunity OR reliable history of disease
H. influenzae type b (HIB) - 2 to 3 months - 1 dose, 4 months through 14 months of age - 2 doses, 15 months of age through 4 years completed series OR 1 dose after age 15 months


Well, I just looked this up for michigan and I was wondering what do you guys think my options are? I dont see from these requirements what I could choose not to do. BTW, these are the requirements to get into preschool.

[SBradbury]

Here is our vax schedule. In parentheses is the months in which he will be getting the shots since that effected some parts of our schdule.

6 months (September) – Hib #1 & IPV #1
7 months (October) – DTaP #1
8 months (November) – Prevnar #1
9 months (December) – Hib #2 & IPV #2
10 months (January) – DTaP #2
12 months (March) – Prevnar #2

14 months (May) – Hib #3 & IPV #3
15 months (June) – DTaP #3
16 months (July) – Prevnar #3
17 months (August) – Hib #4
20 months (November) – DTaP #4
24 months – Mumps

30 months – Measles
3 yrs – Rubella
4 yrs – Hepatitis B #1
4 yrs 6 months – Hepatitis B #2
5 yrs – Hepatitis B #3

Varicella – check titers before school – vaccinate if necessary
MMR – check titers before school – revaccinate if necessary

[becoming]

Here's what DH & I have come up with for our new baby, to be born within the next 4 weeks.

No vax until 6 months.
6 months - Hib #1
7 months - DTaP #1
8 months - Hib #2
9 months - DTap #2
10 months - Hib #3
11 months - DTap #3
19 months - Hib #4
20 months - DTap #4
24 months - Measles Only

We'll be revisiting the issue of the separate mumps & rubella vax when it comes time for him to start Pre-K at age 4.

We're not doing Hep B, Prevnar, IPV, varicella, Pneumovax, or flu shots at all.

We're doing a modified-for-age version of the above schedule with my DD, who already had one dose each of Hep B, IPV, Hib & DTaP but no vax at all since 6 months old. We are starting at 20 months (in a couple of weeks) with the second dose of Hib, then rotating with DTaP each month until we're caught up with Hib & DTaP. We're discontinuing the IPV & Hep B.

DS (5.5) is fully vaxed, but at least he didn't have his MMR until 4 years of age. We're learning as we go!

[Periwinkle]

Becoming, just curious why you're doing HiB and not Prevnar?

Also, be aware that stand-alone measles is often unavailable and that when it is available, you have to buy the large-size / bulk orders of it (i.e., you can't just get a single dose) which can be expensive depending.

[Periwinkle]

Originally Posted by kerpav

I have been researching vaxes on my own and reading up on all of your posts. So, so helpful! I am very grateful to have found this thread.

However, in some ways I feel more confused than ever. My son is now 4 months old, no vaxes so far. I live in NYC and know there are particular requirements for school entry (and I am not prepared to not vax..but I do want to delay to make it as safe as possible for him). Found a local ped that is willing to work on whatever schedule I create , and I need to have this plan laid out for the next appt., because I think we'll start some vaxes at 6 months.

Kate33FL, I agree with your comments on HepB, but how do you get specific waivers for specific vaxes? Anyone know if that is possible in NY?

I would like to follow a similar schedule to yours posted above, but am unclear on the following. A) 1 shot of Hib is enough? No boosters needed if done at 18 months? B.) No MMR booster is required? I believe in New York City at least a measles booster is required for school entry. Also, they say at least 1 vaccine must be administered for school entry "within the previous 2 months" for DtaP, IPV, MMR, Hib, HepB, Varicella, PCV.....sooo HOW can I POSSIBLY spread out the vaxes AND meet these requirements without having to do boosters before age 2?:

Sooo confused! I appreciate any advise, and humbly applaud all of you knowledgable moms out there.

In my experience/research, you basically have three options:

1.) Fully vax on schedule
2.) Vax off schedule / delay but catch the child up fully to meet state/school requirements by the time the child enters school
3.) Do not vax AT ALL and seek a medical/religious/philosophical exemption as appropriate/allowed in your state.

If your state ONLY allows for a medical and a religious exemption (i.e., there is no philosophical exemption) then what you CANNOT do, is do some of the vaxes and not others and clear the religious exemption hurdle... i.e., your "bona fide religious beliefs" cannot possibly be to vax for Hib and not Hep B. LOL And frankly, it's a slippery slope for the philosophical exemption to do that too, though perhaps there's a dash more wiggle room there.

Basically, if you think you want to go down the delay/selective vax route, you need to know BEFORE you get into it whether you will need to catch your children up before entering school.

This is what we did. And I certainly did not begin vaxing my infants... as they were YEARS away from entering school. I managed to catch up my twins prior to entering nursery school without giving them more than 1 shot at a time, spaced many months apart. (If you start later, you need fewer shots too!)

As for my toddler, he is s-l-o-w-l-y being caught up. The plan is for him to be fully vaxed *in the required vaxes only* (e.g., in my state, he doesn't NEED varicella or Prevnar or flu obviously) by the time he enters school at age 4. He's 2 1/2 now and we've barely begun the catch up process, and no way no how would I have started a drop earlier than I had to. I'm not trying to be offensive, I just don't get how people give a 2 month old 2 shots in one visit or whatever and say they're "delaying". What's the point, kwim?

[somedaymomma]

Recombivax (HepB) - Birth 2mos. 4mos.
ActHIB (HIB) - 2mos. 4mos. 6mos.
Daptacel (DTaP) - 2mos. 4mos. 6mos. 15mos.
IPOL (Polio) - 2mos. 4mos. 6mos.
Prevnar (Pneumococcal) - 2mos. 4mos. 6mos. 15mos.
MMR - 15mos.
Flu - 6mos.

In addition to looking into the specific VPDs, I also researched the different "brand name" vaccines. I think this is something that is very very very often overlooked - I didn't know how many options I had. For expample, there are several different dtap vaccines, and they are all different in terms of side effects and protection. Same goes for HIB vaccines. So, for me, it is not "do I vaccine?" it is "what do I vaccinate with?"

[mommy11903]

DTaP vaccination

I'm still nervous about the DTaP.


With good reason. This is the vaccination my son had a reaction to. He immediately became delayed in everything.

[kobiebar]

Selective vaccination

Can anyone help? I am thinking about not vaccinating my kids against varicella. They have all other required vaccinations for PA school entry. Do you think I will have any trouble getting a religious exemption?

[Awaken]

It kind of stinks when you have to do an exemption for only missing one shot, doesn't it? I had to do the same for my older DS and it's been totally fine. You're not even 'getting' the expemption, simply singing the line of the form saying you object for religious reasons, and do not fill out the rest where it asks for other vaxes recieved. No one has questioned me or said a thing about it so far.

Re: varicella, my ds2 didn't get the shot, got the pox, did totally fine wtih it. I totally regret that my ds1 got the vax. Why push the disease until they're older and it's more dangerous? The vax doesn't make sense to me.

[Periwinkle]

Originally Posted by kobiebar

Can anyone help? I am thinking about not vaccinating my kids against varicella. They have all other required vaccinations for PA school entry. Do you think I will have any trouble getting a religious exemption?

If I were you I'd start looking for a chicken pox party as my full-time job, lol. You don't need the vax for school in PA... like most state's, instead of the vax you just need doctor's report that you had it. If you don't get it in time to start school, you could always... um... make it sound convincing over the phone (read up on symptoms and when spots appear etc.). No way a ped will bring you into the office to examine a contagious child who just has chicken pox.

[brightonwoman]

starting at 6 vs 12 mo--breastfeeding boosting antibodies?

Originally Posted by Periwinkle

If you are delaying vaxes, why would you start at 2 months? For me, the point of delaying is to push vaxing out as long as possible, which does not include vaxing a tiny infant.

so, do you think that it might be preferable to start at 6mo, when baby is still exclusively brestfed and getting all MY antibodies, rather than to wait until 12mo when he won't be nursing nearly so much? Even though he would be older?
This is my major debate right now...and I don't have long as ds is nearly 6mo!