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post #1 of 13
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Wow-I am kind of shocked here! WWYD?

So my 5yo dd started kindy this year, and is so excited! She has the same teacher that her older brother had, which is great because the teacher is nice, we got along well with her when he was in her class, no problems at all etc...

On Abby's first day of school, of course she came home, and I was all on her about her day, what she did, if she had fun etc...She said "I did get in trouble though mommy." I said "You did!? What happened?" and she said "I don't want to tell you." So I said "Well if you don't want to tell mommy, then I will have to call and talk to mrs. W, because mommy really needs to know these things, so we can work on them, okay?" So she said okay, and opened up to me.

She said "I was child of the day, and I got my own special chair for the whole day! Mrs. W told me that nobody else could sit in the chair, only me today. But after I sat in the chair most of the day, I let someone else sit there because I wanted to share my seat, so Mrs. W took my child of the day tag away and said I was not child of the day anymore AND she put my sticker on red instead of green, since I didn't listen to her." (I guess since she had been told NOT to let anyone else sit in the chair and she did anyhow.)

I, personally think BRAVO to my baby for sharing. If that is the ONLY kind of trouble she is going to get into at school, is for sharing, than that is fine by me. Now granted, I told her she does need to listen to what her teacher says, but c'mon, please tell me I am not the only one who thinks this is just a little obserd? Could she not have just kind of reinforced the issue with her, beings that it WAS the first day of kindy for all of these kids, maybe they didn't remember the rules yet? I think the teacher should have said something like "Abby, Mrs. W told you not to let anyone else sit in the chair, remember? Please don't do that again, now you need to sit in it, okay?" and let her have the COTD still, and not change her behavior sticker kwim? Ugh.

So do I drop it or email the teacher to make sure my 5 yo was not exaggerating the truth or what? Tia!
post #2 of 13
That is ridiculous, imo. Talk about the first lesson of conforming and not thinking for yourself. I would make an issue of it if I were you.
post #3 of 13
OMG, how backwards is that? Call, email or stop in to see the teacher. Ask her why she punished your dd for sharing. Granted she didn't follow directions, but she was doing something she thought was a nice thing to do.

Jenn
post #4 of 13
I would drop by and make sure of the situation - not because DD is exaggerating but because it is a non-confrontational way to open the subject with her teacher. I think it is ridiculous and I would address it immediately.

FWIW, DD was in preschool and told me one day she had to eat her snack after the other kids because she didn't say the prayer I addressed it with the teacher. I found out she had to say the Our Father (a rather long prayer for a 3 year old) before she was allowed to eat her snack! Needless to say, she didn't stay much longer after that.
post #5 of 13
I would stop by and bring it up. Something like "my daughter was excited to be the child of the day, but I understand there was some sort of misunderstanding about a chair?" That way you get the teacher's side and maybe something more was going on that your daughter wasn't aware of. I don't know it seems so harsh for an action that should be given a "well done". I know my cousin who is a teacher said that she really has to enforce the rules from the begining to maintain the proper dynamic in the classroom. I couldn't imagine trying to keep a classroom full of 5 yearolds, but you daughter getting in trouble for sharing seems pretty over the top to me.
post #6 of 13
I would bet there was some misunderstanding there. I agree with the others-bring it up with the teacher, but kindly.
post #7 of 13
Why single one child out as the child of the day? It's just setting it up for conflict. To encourage competition. Also, why should your dd have to sit in this one particular chair all day? And she has to be responsible for not letting anyone else sit there? Is she allowed to get up? This doesn't sound right to me. I would talk to the teacher about it if I were you. Maybe it is a misunderstanding.
post #8 of 13
I'll be daring and speak on behalf of the teacher. This may not have anything to do with your daughter's situation specifically, but to first day of school in general.

As a former Kindergarten teacher, I feel for the teacher in the first days of school. The course for the entire year is set in the first few hours. As much as we teachers love the kids, we MUST set the tone immediately. Again, I'm not speaking so much about this particular silly Queen For A Day scenario, but first day of school in general. If the teacher states a rule and a child doesn't follow the rule, ass backward as that rule may seem to us, the teacher has to enforce some kind of authority. I know, I know, we MDC mamas don't like the sound of that. However, if a roomfull of 5-year-olds gets the idea for one minute that Mrs. Teacherlady doesn't really mean what she says, there can be one ugly mutiny. If the kids figure out that Mrs. Teacherlady is flexible on day one, they will spend the next 236 school days trying to see just how far she'll bend.

A teacher just can't be too nice on the first day of school. I'm sorry. I'm sure your kid (and mine) would never take advantage, but somebody else's will. You can count on it. And once that kid decides it's more fun to bend the rules and push the teacher's buttons, then everybody loses . . . because a teacher can't teach if s/he's busy with discipline all day.

Okay, flame away. :
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Heffernhyphen
I'll be daring and speak on behalf of the teacher. This may not have anything to do with your daughter's situation specifically, but to first day of school in general.

As a former Kindergarten teacher, I feel for the teacher in the first days of school. The course for the entire year is set in the first few hours. As much as we teachers love the kids, we MUST set the tone immediately. Again, I'm not speaking so much about this particular silly Queen For A Day scenario, but first day of school in general. If the teacher states a rule and a child doesn't follow the rule, ass backward as that rule may seem to us, the teacher has to enforce some kind of authority. I know, I know, we MDC mamas don't like the sound of that. However, if a roomfull of 5-year-olds gets the idea for one minute that Mrs. Teacherlady doesn't really mean what she says, there can be one ugly mutiny. If the kids figure out that Mrs. Teacherlady is flexible on day one, they will spend the next 236 school days trying to see just how far she'll bend.

A teacher just can't be too nice on the first day of school. I'm sorry. I'm sure your kid (and mine) would never take advantage, but somebody else's will. You can count on it. And once that kid decides it's more fun to bend the rules and push the teacher's buttons, then everybody loses . . . because a teacher can't teach if s/he's busy with discipline all day.

Okay, flame away. :
No flaming, I pretty much agree...I taught all sorts of elementary too, now high school(not too different)...I just get sick from all that conformist, rule-following crap...good thing I am not in public ed anymore...

Every teacher has a different philosophy though and must do what works for kids and them...try to find a time to talk to her calmly and supportively.
post #10 of 13
Wow. student of the day is sure a wolf in sheeps clothing. thats like getting a candy bar and then having it snatched away because you split it with your best friend. I saw nothing in what the teacher said (what the child said the teacher said anyway) that implied she couldn't share,. just that no one else could take her chair. give a kid some time to learn the rules for petes sake. and gees. student of the day sounds stressful. way to take something special and make it suck.

I would first be proud of your dd that she wanted to hare her treat. that is really sweet.

then I would discuss it with the teacher. perhaps there is some miscommunication somewhere. at the very least the rules are confusingand she needs to me more clear about what exactly it means to be student of the day.
post #11 of 13
It sounds like a misunderstanding and I would speak with the teacher about it.
post #12 of 13
Maybe you could give her some Alfie Kohn books for a winter break gift... The green/red sticker thing, ug...
post #13 of 13
Ask without accusing. Often the teacher does not realize how serious what they did has impacted a child, etc.

BUT, I had an incident where I *know* DD teacher lied to me 2 years ago. DD lvoes to write, although she coudl barely do so in 1st grade. In 2nd grade she writes for FUN. She loves morbid stories. Nothing horrible, just spooky, etc. She works at school and hoem on a "movie" for weeks. We know of it well. One day she cries hysterical afraid to tell me why. She finalyl explains a child told the teacher tha ther story said "I will kill you witch!" (The witch was the villain ,as is common in many childrens stories.) Apparently, teh word kill was against school policy. Fine. Then DD said she THREW the story in the garbage! WTF? ANd threatened teh PRINCIPAL and more. Woah. DD is saying "why didn't anyoen tell me you cannot write that in a story! It was just a story!

So I confront the teacher nicely. DD story never changed a bit each time retold. Plus the whole use of kill issue. Well, the teacher seemed nervous and said DD was only told nto to have the story out in class (no mention of KILL) and was repeatedly told to put it away. Ok, this is beleivable. teh etacher then insists she never ever threw it out. My then 7yo DD was livid. I could tell teacher was lying. Especially when DD (who loved the teacher) was later upset and confused at how a teacher could LIE. HUH? Also, I got a hint that the whole spooky witch aspect may have upset the teachers personal beliefs (type of Christianity) and that was the bigger issue.

I used it as a tool with DD and we chose to leave it from their. It was not worth a messy he said/she said fight.

I was shocked, you never ever know.
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