Healing the Gut in September - Page 9

[sparkletruck]

I tried to edit my post but couldnt get on to MDC. I just checked my yogurt (in the fridge overnight) as I had a theory that it just needed to cool completely to firm up, and yup! Im so excited. Thanks EBG. Last time I poured off the curds and whey, this time I stirred it all together, which produced a chunky milk consistency, then put that in the fridge. I think Im good, but may try yogourmet in future to compare.

And thanks for the garlic elumination. Firefaery - do you think Oregano oil would be more specific to fungus then? Also, what is your opinion of GSE? Im not peg or nursing, unfortunately And lastly, you mentioned that seeing an ND may not be worth it, as you have learned so much on your own. I am wishing I had a *professional* to discuss this all with, but also feel like Ive learned a lot, and what are they going to tell me etc. But many of you mention various testing, and I wonder if I should start down that road. But then again, the simple fact is that those abx stipmined my GI tract and its going to take a lonnnggg time, so what is testing going to tell me? I guess Im really looking for a more definitive answer on many of the products than I feel I have - arent we all

Thanks

[Panserbjorne]

There are many things that are more potent than garlic, and oregano oil is one of them (as long as it's the wild oregano oil) It is unsafe during nursing or pregnancy, but if you are in fact not doing either I'd say do it. Tanalbit is also very effective.

Most ND's are not as up on gut health as many of the ladies here. However noone here can run tests for you. If you feel you need more concrete answers there is no reason not to make an appointment. I jsut know that I wasted alot of $ I didn't have to begin with. But you will go in with a better understanding of what's going on, so if $ isnt' that big of an issue you could certainly do it. Especially if it's covered by insurance! It can also be helpful if you have something else going on (other mitigating factors) that you haven't pinpointed.

There are many worthwhile tests. The good part is if they start suggesting some, you can come back and chat with others who have done them and make a decision or find an alternative test. If your gut ( ) is telling you to go, then go.

[sparkletruck]

Originally Posted by firefaery

Tanalbit is also very effective.

Tanalbit???

No insurance for an ND here, nor much $ the throw around. I have 2-3 IRL friends who have seen this woman, who Im not exactly clear what her creds are, about yeast stuff, and she has treated them successfully (they sing her praises). But it sounds like they're doing much of what I am already. I also think my case is worse, as I have not just imbalance but abx thrown in

I remembered my one more question: my broth does not gel at all. No gel to be seen. Ive made 2 batches of chicken broth so far. Its yummy, but makes me wonder. No I cant find chicken feet lol.

[Panserbjorne]

The Original Anti-fungal. Plant tannin formula for GI health and support, including inflammation, food intolerance/allergies, detoxification, metal detoxification. Tanalbit® is an effective, non-prescription plant tannin formula for the gastrointestine when compromised by bacterial and/or fungal infestations.


Tanalbit® is recommended with: Magnesium Ascorbate, TanFlora® probiotic.

Tanalbit® is also extremely helpful in the following problems: toxicity buildup, bloating, gas, diarrhea, yeast and bacterial overgrowth, food allergies and/or food sensitivities/intolerance. As a result of its gastrointestinal support, Tanalbit® may help decrease debilitating fatigue.

The Tanalbit® formula is based on the powerful astringency and high antioxidant content (high proanthocyanidin content) of natural condensed tannins. Other components of Tanalbit® are chitin extract and lotus rhizome extract which provide synergistic anti-mycotic and anti-microbial action.

Use of Tanalbit® for yeast, fungal or bacterial infestations is commonly 6 weeks, more or less depending on individual symptoms. As a powerful antioxidant and detoxifier, Tanalbit® may be taken every day as advised to help "cleanse" or "remove" toxic substances including heavy metals



Because Tanalbit® is complexed with casein, a protein with hydroxyproline and proline amino acids, it is able to bypass degradation by stomach acid and effectively target the lower gastrointestine. The action is important for two reasons. First, it ensures that Tanalbit® is effective and Second, it ensures that Tanalbit® targets the lower intestine where most infestations remain entrenched. Anti-fungals complexed without protein are simply not as effective.

[Panserbjorne]

Tanalbit: new tool against Klebsiella and Ankylosing Spondylitis?

For those of us who have been suffering from AS (or some related disorder) and are exploring the connection between our now infamous bacteria “klebsiella”, the HLA-B27 gene, and sometimes unexplainably ridiculous amounts of pain, we may have a new possibility to look into: a non-prescription plant tannin supplement called Tanalbit. (Kudos to “Mom” for tipping us off to this one.)

[As of this writing, I have not explored this beyond some quick “googling” around. So let me know if anyone finds anything else out.]

Tanalbit: What the heck is it?
Good question. Tanalbit is a non-prescription plant tannin formula that is reportedly very effective in the treatment of “Candidiasis and similar gastrointestinal problems caused by bacterial and/or fungal infestations of the gastrointestinal tract.” According to some online resources, “Tanalbit is also extremely helpful in the following problems: toxicity buildup, IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), ‘Leaky Gut’ syndrome, Colitis, Intestinal Dysbiosis, food allergies. Tanalbit is also a chronic fatigue fighter, as Candidiasis is often implicated as the cause or contributing to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome as well as FMS (fibromyalgia syndrome).”

Many sources are also reporting that Tanalbit is very effective against klebsiella in particular.

[p1gg1e]

Thanks for the info I will do the Lemon water and chloraphel (sp? Dislexia is BAD during pregnancy LOL) I was doing that wrong :P I'm feeling better though and I think by the time this baby comes I'll be close to normal

[krissi]

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I'm glad I started reading this thread. It sounds like I need to get DS onto Tanalbit since Klebsiella was what he tested high for on his CDSA.

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by krissi

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I'm glad I started reading this thread. It sounds like I need to get DS onto Tanalbit since Klebsiella was what he tested high for on his CDSA.

Wow - me too. Dd also tested high (4+) for this. I've been reading this thread here and there but haven't studied it all yet. Where do you get this stuff?

Actually, dd tested high on all the potential pathogens.

On her CDSA it shows Berberine, oregano, plant tannis (pecans have a lot of these) and Uva-Ursi to be helpful to klebsiella.

[Vaquitita]

Originally Posted by JaneS

This is what I think too. DS had those fluffy poo's and not sleeping and hands in his mouth, chewing on his fingers. Seems like yeast to me? He is still in diapers at night so cannot do the OAT test.

hands in the mouth and finger chewing is a sign of yeast? my son does this all the time and i just figured it was normal...

I'd think it was yeast for sure. The way we tell when DD's yeast is flaring is poo changes and she starts acting truly drunk, giggling and stumbling around...

ack! ds was doing this yesterday, stumbling around and giggling. (he's done this before) his poo has been mushy too. he hasn't really eaten anything new. he is 12mo and is eating more now, but still just meats and veggies with raw butter, and the occasional fruit. my diet hasn't really changed lately either, just been trying to really up the probiotic foods. hmm... next time he does it i'll have to record what he's eaten. try to find a pattern. could die off cause this too?

[Annikate]

Look what I found! We're removing metals right now.

Tanalbit® is very effective in the treatment of acute and chronic diarrhea, colitis, enteritis, constipation and spastic colons. Furthermore, it can be employed as a detoxification agent for heavy metal poisoning and for alleviating food allergies.

[Panserbjorne]

It's good stuff!

[chasmyn]

Originally Posted by Nolansmum

I have been making coconut milk yogurt. It tastes pretty good:
2 cans coconut milk (full fat)
2 T honey
2 T gelatin
1 packet yogurt starter
vanilla
http://www.giprohealth.com/Merchant2...y_Code=ProGurt
Heat the milk, honey and gelatin. allow to cool to 110 add yogurt starter. Let culture at 110 for 8-10 hrs.

You can also try fermented foods.

Oh, this sounds wonderful! I'm going to try it today!

[Panserbjorne]

I'm going to get the reuteri today and make it as well. Another use for my dehydrator! I can't wait for a successful batch of coconutty goodness.

[EBG]

Originally Posted by saskiasmom

I remembered my one more question: my broth does not gel at all. No gel to be seen. Ive made 2 batches of chicken broth so far. Its yummy, but makes me wonder. No I cant find chicken feet lol.

How long do you cook it? I can't find feet either, but I use chicken legs. Mine gels... I just cook it on low or 2-3 for several hours, almost all day if it's in a large pot. If there is skin on the legs, it will help gelling.

[EBG]

Didn't Sally Fallon mention something negative about tannins? Something like yes they help to detox but should be done only short term because they also rob your body of other nutrients...they bind with imoportant minerals like zinc and magnesium??? She mentioned the example of the Jewish practice of eating unleaved bread for only a week. (Not fermenting would leave plant tannins intact...or soemthing like this.)
Also, I was thinking it must be too strong a chelator for people with amalgams...or I could be totally wrong.

[Panserbjorne]

In very high doses and for a long period of time that may be true. That isn't how the supplement is used. Also it seems to be fine for those with amalgams-you can google (I think) for specific studies. When I first found it last year it was a concern of mine as well.

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by firefaery

In very high doses and for a long period of time that may be true. That isn't how the supplement is used. Also it seems to be fine for those with amalgams-you can google (I think) for specific studies. When I first found it last year it was a concern of mine as well.

Hey, ff, I need to find a brand that comes in capsules that I can break apart, sprinkle, and close again for dd. What brand do you have and are they capsules like that?

[Panserbjorne]

Annikate, I never used it just had other people that did. I was always either pg or nursing : It never ends over here!

[Panserbjorne]

Sorry-I will find you one though-let me see what I can come up with.

[Annikate]

Thanks! I emailed this company and asked them. We'll see . . .