Healing the Gut in September - Page 3

[milkamama]

Originally Posted by JaneS

Success story on yeast from someone I know IRL:

janes thanks again for sharing your knowledge. the lack of variety found in scd along with ds2 allergies/intolerances (which have made scd meat, veggie and fruit for us) have left dh and i debating our path forward for ds. this article makes me rethink the whole 'completely grain free' theories (esp. since ds does tolerate amaranth, quinoa, millet and buckwheat on a rotational basis). yet, i must confess that upon reading btvc, i was convinced that scd way THE way to go.

it is soooo confusing and difficult to watch a child suffer...want to heal them...want to do the right thing.

[milkamama]

a bit off topic
our goat yoghurt was not too successful. it was quite diffcult to get ds to eat any of it...even disguised. then our frig went yesterday, so i guess it just was not meant to be. i have orderd some kefir grains and hope to try making some water kefir to add to fruit/veggie smoothies. and plan on starting to culture some veggies. i am all ears if anyone has a good link for cultured/fermented veggies or any advice. i am pretty sure ds cannot handle cow's milk...even raw.

[milkamama]

[QUOTE=Kundalini-Mama]Sigh. Good news and terrible news.

oh mama, hugs to you. so sorry to hear such news....glad ds's diagnosis has begun and you are not totally in the gray world of it could be this, could be that. as a pp said...he is lucky to have you.

[Punchy Kaby]

Amy-BIG hugs to you and your family. God must have a plan for you to throw so much your way. Your kids are so lucky to have you as a momma!

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by milkamama

janes thanks again for sharing your knowledge. the lack of variety found in scd along with ds2 allergies/intolerances (which have made scd meat, veggie and fruit for us) have left dh and i debating our path forward for ds. this article makes me rethink the whole 'completely grain free' theories (esp. since ds does tolerate amaranth, quinoa, millet and buckwheat on a rotational basis). yet, i must confess that upon reading btvc, i was convinced that scd way THE way to go.

it is soooo confusing and difficult to watch a child suffer...want to heal them...want to do the right thing.

THis is just MO, but I do believe that the SCD will help your ds. It helped my dd immensely. I think the disillusionment here about the SCD relates to candida issues only.

I wouldn't let this one article sway you away from trying the SCD.

[Pookietooth]

Oh, Amy, to you. Your name change is cool -- what prompted it?

Nathan1097, sorry to hear you have been so ill. Have you been on the SCD the whole time since your last incident?

ff, was the reading from your medical intuitive?

Jane, what kind of kefir will you be giving ds? Goat milk kefir? Water kefir?

[Punchy Kaby]

Firefaery-very interesting about your reading, cuts out all the guessing that we do constantly. What kind of reading was it, what is her speciality?

Jane-Don't know what to make of the article . Goes back to 'everything in moderation.' Thank you for keeping us well supplied with food for thought. I am going to stay the course on SCD for now (sans dairy, sugary fruit.) I am healing slowly, I have let go of the idea that Ds's eczema is going to go away if I just find the foods that are bothering him and am focusing on just getting our guts healed. I have to let go of the guilt I feel for being the cause of his problems and know that I am doing all I can with nutrition.

[Panserbjorne]

I actually use two people...the one I mentioned does everything. I have one that does more of the medical stuff as well. I just couldn't take the guesswork anymore.

[sparkletruck]

I am trying to address my probiotic intake in a rigorous way. I have been taking *only* cabbage rejuvelac and some fermented food with meals, b/c all probiotics Ive found in a jar contain no-no anticandida stuff. But now I am thinking a little rice starch may not matter in the bog picture.

~What do you all think of non-refrigerated hfs pro-b's? Obviously garden of life (which I am not considering) is non refrigerated, but there are others.

~What if anything have you heard about lactobacillus LGG? Ive read that it implants the best. It is sold through Culturelle (any knowledge here?) and is non-refrigerated.

fwiw, the people I know IRL who have treated candida did so on a much less strict diet than Bee's : : I dont know what to do. Im tentatively planing to go see an ND one of these people recommends, but I fear they will tell me everything different, and then what! :

Firefairy - that is very interesting!

[april2462]

Goaty quandries

Originally Posted by milkamama

our goat yoghurt was not too successful. it was quite diffcult to get ds to eat any of it...even disguised.

Aaaah, I feel so much the same!
Goat milk is the only raw unpasteurized milk I've been able to find, and my family totally rejected it as oatmeal or hot cereal topping (I don't even think about serving it straight they were so disgusted, and my dh was grossed out). The first batch of yoghurt was very runny and rejected by all, but I ate it. The second batch failed completely, possibly a temperature thing. My questions are for the goat milk experts - I know this ground has been covered before but I can't find it. Is there a link to the best process for fool-proof goat yoghurt, and what is the best drip method? I know it will always start out runny, but I need to drip off a bit of the watery wheyness.
My dripping though a linen-lined colander seems so messy and wasteful, though.
Thanks!

[Kundalini-Mama]

I'll bite

When you drip the yogurt, you will be losing the whey, which has a lot of the probiotics in it. Why are you dripping it anyway? I missed that.

The only way we can eat the yogurt is w/cooked berries and added honey to it. It is not palatable any other way. (Except as cheesecake , but that has no nutritional value )

I warm my raw goat milk to 110 degrees. Add the starter. Put in mason jars and close them. Place on my army wool blanket. Place heating pad on top, I'm putting it on high as it is getting colder. Wrap in the wool blanket and I wrap another fleece blanket on top & around as well. Let sit 24 hrs. Put in fridge and eat in a couple of hrs.

[Gale Force]

WHOA firefaery. I can see why you're still processing. Grains? My diet is only about 70-80% raw so I would probably help the cause by eating sourdough pancakes then maybe a homemade pizza and some sourdough cornbread and call it health food. Are you going to cook or eat a lot of sprouts?

Have you had a reading lately from the medical intuit?

[Gale Force]

What is Bee's diet? Meat and vegetables? FTR, I basically treated my candida with a 9-month diet like that. No fancy supplements. Occasional antifungals when I remembered. I did add homemade yogurt about two months in and then kefir about six months in.

[Panserbjorne]

Gale Force...I feel raw slipping away. Everytime I think I'm doing the right thing-sheesh. I have no idea what to do about grains. We still need to be gluten free. Oats come up high for me, but obviously I need a reliable source. Brown rice was good too. I need to figure out ways to get these into my diet. I do have meat back in, I guess that's just not a battle I'm gonna win no matter how hard I try.

Nightshade veggies are out too and that's a big problem for me. I can't have mushrooms either.

The reading from the medical intuitive was what made me do this. IT's kind of like a back up, or second opinion in some ways. The medical intuitive said he was having food sensitivity issues and let me know what was affected and where. She also told me some of the major offenders. She did some work on him and relaxed the spasms a bit. Then I figure in for a penny in for a buck and called the other one (they don't know each other at all to my knowledge) for verification. SHe gave a very similar reading and was pretty identical with the foods. The difference was mainly the cocoa. The med.intuitive said to avoid it, that it's problematic. The other told me it was okay, just not in the am. Since that's the only time I do it, this was interesting.

I eat a ton of sprouts. Are you referring specifically to grains? I don't sprout grains at all-except buckwheat, and that's not technically a grain. I was told to back off the sprouts a bit. Not completely, just cut back.

Any ideas for GFCF traditionally prepared grainy goodness? I could use the help!

[krissi]

THis is just MO, but I do believe that the SCD will help your ds. It helped my dd immensely. I think the disillusionment here about the SCD relates to candida issues only.

I wouldn't let this one article sway you away from trying the SCD.

This is definitely true for us. I am not going to abandon the SCD for DD because it has been hands down by far the most beneficial intervention or therapy of any kind. It isn't getting rid of the yeast, but it is doing DD buckets of good in other ways. She had remarkable gains within a month of trying it. I would definitely give it a try if nothing else.

[flowmom]

Originally Posted by firefaery

Any ideas for GFCF traditionally prepared grainy goodness?

I love quinoa tabbouleh. I usually use cooked quinoa but once I tried raw sprouted quinoa in tabbouleh (raw cookbook recipe). What a disaster! - it messed up my normally unnoticeable digestive sytem. I will never eat uncooked sprouted grains again. Next time I will do the same thing but cook the sprouted quinoa. Sprouting the quinoa was really easy (soaked overnight).

Also, sprouted quinoa in quinoa croquettes would be good. Just mix together mashed potatoes, quinoa, an egg, Indian-ish spices then bake on well-greased pan for about an hour. Serve with chutney - yum.

I normally find millet too mushy for dinner foods but it makes a nice cooked breakfast cereal.

[TopazBlueMama]

Originally Posted by firefaery

Gale Force...I feel raw slipping away. Everytime I think I'm doing the right thing-sheesh. I have no idea what to do about grains. We still need to be gluten free. Oats come up high for me, but obviously I need a reliable source. Brown rice was good too. I need to figure out ways to get these into my diet. I do have meat back in, I guess that's just not a battle I'm gonna win no matter how hard I try.

Wow. That is fascinating everything she told you. How interesting! omg, and everything I've read says grains, grains, grains for breastfeeding moms! Report if you ever eat oatmeal and rice or others and tell us if you notice a difference in your babe or milk supply!

[Gale Force]

I just answered a PM about my diet, so I thought I'd post the guts of it here:

The diet turned me into a monster for about two months. By the end of three months the "symptoms" were gone and I started feeling better, but die-off still hit me in waves after that.

At the time I had pretty severe PPD with OCD. I didn't research the diet thoroughly, so I was not aware of all of the conflicting info. My chiro told me to wean Frederick at 18 months and do a detox through her or to go on this diet. I went on the diet and never looked back. At the time it did not occur to me that there was another option -- do nothing and put up with the ductal yeast and other signs. I saw it as "do the diet or wean this child." I set out on a very comulsive diet path. It worked. I can't be strict on a diet now to save my life because I just don't have the level of obsession that I had before.

Kefir was a very big help for me as was the yogurt.

Somewhere long the way with the deit I realized that I looked better than I'd looked in a long time and that I was feeling better. We began to move at about the nine month point and I got sloppy with the diet. On occasion I had nipple thrush after that but it would go away by itself in a day or two. I'm 3 1/2 years out from starting the diet now and have had no signs of yeast for about a year.

[Gale Force]

firefaery,

Yes, I was wondering if you would add grains and stay raw by sprouting grains. I need to familiarize myself with the GF grains. I don't eat much grain in the first place and am not GF, so I can never remember the list.

Amanda

[moonshine]

I also had a reading from the same person that firefaery used. Interesting, to say the least.

Let me preface all this by saying I do not have a candida problem. I know that is what many of you are battling, so don't know how much any of this is of interest, but just thought I would share nonetheless.

First thing, I am slightly acid and need to alkalize. (and acccording to bloodwork I had done this spring, this is true.) Also, there are a number of foods that I have been eating that according to her are not good for me. Cows milk is not good, but buffalo is. Honey no good , but maple syrup ok, as is agave necter. Beef not good for me, but buffalo, again, is. Eggs every day is not good, but every other day is. Cheese, absolutely not. Grains, also not good. (and I am breastfeeding, although we did not discuss that.) I did ask about eating raw, because that is what I am really drawn too right now, but she said not to go completely, and it might be better, at least for now, to slightly steam things. Sigh. She recommended some enzymes and probiotics (Digest Gold and Primal Defense, as well as BioK), which are not the brands I have been doing. Interesting, since I wasn't sure that the Houstons I am taking are really working for me. She recommends colonics for me and CST for my kids.

Oh, and the source of all my problems? The short answer is stress. Course, that doesn't hugely surprise me. If I don't get this under control, it could turn into something like IBS. Thankfully, it does seem to be slightly better of late. Still have a ways to go, but progress is progress.