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post #421 of 591
9/21/06 at 11:48am
Also wanted to comment on the ketosis topic. I read awhile back that when you are eating so much protien you produce a lot of ammonia as a byproduct, and candida feed on ammonia. Anyone heard of this? The source recommended eating carbs once or twice a week to give enough food to the good bugs. Would the low carb veggies suffice, I wonder?
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post #422 of 591
9/21/06 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by Annikate View Post
Anybody want to compare anti-candida diets?
This is what my homeopath suggested for us: (Aside from the obvious no sugar or yeast.)
No dairy or milk products.
No popcorn, peanuts or p.butter

Foods Allowed:
sweeteners such as stevia, sugar free cnady, murry's cookies' Hershey's sugar-free chocolate, sugar-free pudding.

rice cakes, Kavli crackers, Triscuits, corn chips, tortillas, potato chips, corn nuts

herbal teas, no more than 3 caffeine products a day

soy cheese, nut cheese, veggie cheese

all nuts except peanuts

All the *allowed* foods seem like a bunch of junk to me and a lot on this list has me

I'm on day 2 so I'll give it a go and see what happens. But I am going to do a *little* cheese because I just can't do without it.

I think it depends how strict you want to be about it. On the strict end of the spectrum, you eat only protien, low carb veggies, and good fats. This is what I am doing. But I know others have succes incorporating some low carb grains, nuts, and fermented dairy. I actually dont understand how a reeaallly aged cheese could have much lactose, but I guess the concern there is the mold? My *cheat*, which seems to come up about once a week, is a few soaked almonds I think the candida diet you use depends on your body and its needs for rebalance and detox?
post #423 of 591
9/21/06 at 12:11pm
Wow Annikate, there's alot of crapola on that list! I go back to the SCD thing though. I believe aspartame is legal on the diet-that does not mean that it's advised or heathful, just that it isn't harmful or that it's contributing to the yeast/bacteria overgrowth. I did the SCD but never once ingested it. So take what's health promoting, leave what's not.

Saskia's mom- what I have learned is that we each have individual thresholds and you can't follow any book by the letter. You are correct about the protein thing. However it isn't all that relevant if I can eat 100 grams before reaching that point and you can only eat 50. KWIM? It's about the amount of protein your body deals well with-same with carbs. I found pH testing to be invaluable in this situation.
post #424 of 591
9/21/06 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by firefaery View Post
Wow Annikate, there's alot of crapola on that list! I go back to the SCD thing though. I believe aspartame is legal on the diet-that does not mean that it's advised or heathful, just that it isn't harmful or that it's contributing to the yeast/bacteria overgrowth. I did the SCD but never once ingested it. So take what's health promoting, leave what's not.

Saskia's mom- what I have learned is that we each have individual thresholds and you can't follow any book by the letter. You are correct about the protein thing. However it isn't all that relevant if I can eat 100 grams before reaching that point and you can only eat 50. KWIM? It's about the amount of protein your body deals well with-same with carbs. I found pH testing to be invaluable in this situation.
No kidding about the crap, but now I'm finding myself imagining eating that artificially sweetened junk.

Please explain about the pH testing. I know dd & I have to make our bodies more alkaline right? So how did you use the saliva strips? and how did you do it? Did you test after rating certain foods or what? I'd love to try this.

Oh, and our intuitive friend confirmed for me yesterday that dd & I both have yeast. I didn't have the time to get details about this but she did confirm that we had chosen an excellent DAN doc for dd. We made this appt, 3 months ago & it's on the 16th of October.
post #425 of 591
9/21/06 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by Annikate View Post
Please explain about the pH testing. I know dd & I have to make our bodies more alkaline right? So how did you use the saliva strips? and how did you do it? Did you test after rating certain foods or what? I'd love to try this.
Ditto
post #426 of 591
9/21/06 at 3:30pm
I use urine strips. I know you can get strips that are both for salivary and urine testing, but I think the urine is more accurate. I test in the morning before eating. I then will test throughout the day. I had the advantage (?) of testing myself with different diets so it was pretty clear what I should be eating. I tested as a high protein/fat raw vegan, as a low fat/protein raw vegan, as an omni that rarely ate meat and again as an omni that ate alot of meat. I tested after reading and doing the metabolic typing test and my results were consistent with that test.
post #427 of 591
9/21/06 at 4:23pm
Interesting. I wonder if I could get an accurate sample from a diaper?
post #428 of 591
9/21/06 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by firefaery View Post
I tested after reading and doing the metabolic typing test
??? Whu?

Selenium - how much do you take? How much in 2 brazil nuts?

Anyone for CLO recs? Nordic Naturals ok? (after reading about potential metal toxicity in some brands, such that WAPF is not recommending some they used to... )
post #429 of 591
9/21/06 at 8:02pm
Thread Starter 
[QUOTE=firefaery;6078978]Wow Annikate, there's alot of crapola on that list! I go back to the SCD thing though. I believe aspartame is legal on the diet-that does not mean that it's advised or heathful, just that it isn't harmful or that it's contributing to the yeast/bacteria overgrowth. I did the SCD but never once ingested it. So take what's health promoting, leave what's not.



Aspartame is not legal on SCD and is very harmful.
Saccharin is legal. That's the only artifcial sweetener on SCD. Elaine did some research and concluded that saccharin is safe and the whole hoopla about it causing cancer is based on one vague rat study and that it's the aspartame industry who is trying to get it demonized.
post #430 of 591
9/21/06 at 8:12pm
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Originally Posted by Pookietooth View Post
ff, he seems to think I've got an unhealthy focus on food, and that it's causing me to obsess about it. Not sure what else his concerns are, when I ask, he really won't say what he thinks I'm missing.
I hear you... same exact situ here
post #431 of 591
9/21/06 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by EBG
Aspartame is not legal on SCD and is very harmful.
Saccharin is legal. That's the only artifcial sweetener on SCD. Elaine did some research and concluded that saccharin is safe and the whole hoopla about it causing cancer is based on one vague rat study and that it's the aspartame industry who is trying to get it demonized.
I know it's not legal on SCD. I've been doing SCD since January. I'm still mostly SCD but have recently added some grains. I am now doing anti-candida too (not because I have issues that I'm aware of, but my homeopath thinks I should do it for b'feeding dd.) I was just posting the anti-candida diet to see if anyone else thought it was a little ummm . . . *junky*? (I'm being sarcastic here.)
post #432 of 591
9/21/06 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by firefaery View Post
I use urine strips. I know you can get strips that are both for salivary and urine testing, but I think the urine is more accurate. I test in the morning before eating. I then will test throughout the day. I had the advantage (?) of testing myself with different diets so it was pretty clear what I should be eating. I tested as a high protein/fat raw vegan, as a low fat/protein raw vegan, as an omni that rarely ate meat and again as an omni that ate alot of meat. I tested after reading and doing the metabolic typing test and my results were consistent with that test.
Is this the Dr. Mercola metabolic test you're speaking of? I was just readin g about the metabolic typing on his website. So ratios of protein/carbs/fat will directly affect your acid/alkaline balance? And we want to be Ph neutral? Do you have a website to recommend explaining this subject more? The one's I found were all selling something.
post #433 of 591
9/21/06 at 8:58pm
Another thing to think about...how do you separate exhaustion from lack of sleep from not the right diet exhaustion? I always feel better when I get a nice 2 hour nap in the afternoon

CLO: I use Quantum, someone here recommended it.
post #434 of 591
9/21/06 at 8:58pm
I went to whole foods today to get some ketone testing strips. I'm a bit nervous about how few carbs dd and I eat so I wanted to make sure we are ok in that dept. They said they don't carry those, just the ph ones. What would the ph ones do for us? I didn't get any.
post #435 of 591
9/21/06 at 10:34pm
I like the book The Metabolic Typing Diet. It has a test in it, and Mercola has two as well. The free one just gives you an idea-it's not that in depth.

Sorry-it's been awhile since I read Elaine's guidlines and since I don't use any sweetener but honey and occasionally dates I remembered incorrectly. I don't tend to retain what is insignificant to me.
post #436 of 591
9/21/06 at 10:43pm
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Originally Posted by firefaery View Post
I like the book The Metabolic Typing Diet. It has a test in it, and Mercola has two as well. The free one just gives you an idea-it's not that in depth.

Sorry-it's been awhile since I read Elaine's guidlines and since I don't use any sweetener but honey and occasionally dates I remembered incorrectly. I don't tend to retain what is insignificant to me.
Do you feel like finding your metabolic type has helped you tailor SCD to better work for you?
post #437 of 591
9/21/06 at 10:47pm
BTW, the chiro told me my son needed more protein because on the SCd he had become so thin. I questioned him and found that he hadn't been eating the meat, only fruit, veggies, cheese and nuts & eggs. So that's why I think he got really thin, but I'm still not sure on that. Anyone else have trouble keeping weight on the SCD?
post #438 of 591
9/22/06 at 12:23am
No, the SCD worked for me before I did the MT test. It helped me figure out WHY it worked for me and confirm what I need to be doing.
post #439 of 591
9/22/06 at 12:36am
Annikate, ITA about that diet -- so full of junk and contradictory, too. Soy cheese? That has casein in it, you know. I know I have friends who have done similar diets, but that one just doesn't make sense to me. Sugar-free pudding and sugar-free chocolate have dairy in them. Triscuits have gluten in them -- very hard to digest -- and are so processed what possible nutrition can be gotten from them? Is it just to fill up?

Bestbirths, yes, ds is quite thin on SCD. He's mostly eating fruit, which I think is his problem. Can't force feed him the good stuff, unfortunately.
post #440 of 591
9/22/06 at 3:09am
There is a list of candida diet no-no's in _Is This Your Child?_ by Doris Rapp. If anyone's interested, I'll post it later.
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