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post #81 of 591
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Originally Posted by firefaery
Nature's First Law or eat raw... www.eatraw.com www.rawfood.com
About the juice. FF, have you studied the best place to get it in terms of authenticity and price? I'm reading all these things about making sure it's from the *real* berries. How do you know? I don't want to waste my $ yk?
post #82 of 591
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Originally Posted by JaneS
Welcome Fullofgrace!
Will you try enzymes for yourself? The high proteases between meals are supposed to be very good for Fibromyalgia.
Go very slowly with your littles, it took a while for my guy not to be hyperactive on them.
Great SCD list! TY
Oooh thanks for that bit of info about proteases and Fibro. I had been planning on ordering them today, but now I'm even more motivated to try them.

That's good to know about the potential for hyperactivity, too. DD#2, who we already know has major behavioral triggers from dairy, already has issues in that area, so I will be very careful to go super slow with her. Thanks!
post #83 of 591
I just ordered the enzymes. I decided I only wanted to pay shipping once, so I ordered the chewables for the girls at the same time. $$$, but it's going to be worth it. I just know it.
post #84 of 591
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Originally Posted by newcastlemama
My ds is 2 and 28 pounds. Should I break open a capsule and put it into his goat yogurt? (Also, is one capsule too much? Not enough?)
That should work, but I cannot tell you how much he will need or not...
post #85 of 591
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Originally Posted by Mom2baldie
hi everyone,

My son is 8.5 and sees a DAN (defeat autism now) Dr. for autistic symptoms, adhd, processing issues... His latest stool sample results showed that he is very high in yeast and the Dr. recommended him taking a product called Candicid without talking at all about nutritional changes. Has anyone ever used this before? Does anyone have any thoughts on doing something like this instead of drastically changing the diet? He is a BIG fruit eater and I would hate to take this away from him...

I would very much appreciate any opinions on this! I am very overwhelmed trying to sort through his issues and all the info that goes along with them.

Lynsey
Welcome

Well all DAN doctors do practice differently. Did you just start seeing them? Are you going GFCF? What else is in your plan?

Wow, that Candicid looks powerful, lots of stuff in there...

The thing with yeast is that if your gut is not digesting any carb food properly, the yeast will feed on it. Maybe if the yeast isn't too bad, some kind of killer plus probiotic will help some people. But it doesn't do it for many. Are you using probiotics? With ASD kids it often comes hand in hand with metal problems, usually mercury b/c that kills off the good bacteria in the gut.

It's so hard to say what will work for each individual. I will tell you though that I think Karen DeFelice's book is a must read: www.enzymestuff.com

Enzymes with any yeast killer will help it work better at the very least. See Yeast/Bacteria link on her site.

Also the Autism Mercury Yahoo group is fantastic for real life advice, these parents have been through it all.
post #86 of 591
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Originally Posted by milkamama
happy labor day
quick question for you all...with a bit of background

ds1 (3 yo) who is very healthy and has shown no evidence of gut issues/allergies (with the exception of a milk intolerance that he outgrew), caught what i thought was a little bug two thursdays ago. he had a slight fever and diarrhea for a whole day...complained of belly pains. he woke the next day feeling much better...eating and drinking normally, BUT has complained of belly pains since and has had loose (very loose sometimes), stinky bm's since (some days four or five bms). i have been alternating him on NOW brand 8 billion acidolphilus & bifidus, JARROW baby's jarro-dophilus and a blend from custom probiotics (purchased for ds2 and i) starting the day he got sick. there is on occasion what appears to be mucus in the bm. any thoughts...advice is greatly appreciated.

other than the pains in the belly which only happen right before a bm or during, he seems absolutely fine.

thanks
Probably just a virus, might just take a while for the good bacteria to regrow. I would up the Vitamin C and Vitamin A (high vit. cod liver oil) and take away sugar and juice for a while.
post #87 of 591
DS will be going in for several sessions of intradermal allergy testing in next few weeks. Both food and environmental. And blood tests too. Wish us luck, he's never been stuck with a needle since birth!

His CDSA was pretty normal except for the EPX, a marker of inflammation was in the red. And of course the previous bacterial testing which we didn't repeat. The Putrefactive SCFA's were slightly high but just yellow range not red. Same with another toxin Beta Glucuronidase. Both of those are correlated with bacterial overgrowth.

No mucus. No blood. His Pancreatic Elastase protein digesting enzyme was super high (that is good). I'm knocked over with a feather that there were no meat fibers and rare vegetable fibers. (And he was off enzymes for a week beforehand.)

No yeast, I sneaked that on in there again. Why on earth does raw fruit send his poops to mush then?? :

Why has he been a nightmare since going off enzymes for testing?

It's a good thing this child is so cute.

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post #88 of 591
Jane-good luck with the testing, hopefully there will be some results that give a clue to what is going on inside the little guy.

I had a rough weekend of cheating and I feel horribly guilty (only mildly bloated. )My Dad was in town and I swear he was sabotaging my diet by bringing all my favorite sweets into the house and leaving them out on the counter. I want to get to the point where I not only don't crave bad things but to where I can look at them and not want them and still watch other people eating them. I feel like a bad mom because after 2+ months I still cannot control myself around food.
post #89 of 591
Jane-poor little man! I'm so sorry that you are still chasing things. Love your new sig. by the way.

Ds is still having mucousy poo. I hate it. He's not super gassy anymore. The lack of seediness in it weirds me out. I'm trying a new probiotic after much research. Dear god I hope it helps. My diet has been great. I find it so easy to do the SCD after having done it for so long. I feel good on it and it requires almonst no effort. I do sneak one things in every now and again which is the cacao. I just had it again for the first time today when I made raw brownies. We'll see if the reading was right!
post #90 of 591
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Originally Posted by JaneS
Welcome

Well all DAN doctors do practice differently. Did you just start seeing them? Are you going GFCF? What else is in your plan?

Wow, that Candicid looks powerful, lots of stuff in there...

The thing with yeast is that if your gut is not digesting any carb food properly, the yeast will feed on it. Maybe if the yeast isn't too bad, some kind of killer plus probiotic will help some people. But it doesn't do it for many. Are you using probiotics? With ASD kids it often comes hand in hand with metal problems, usually mercury b/c that kills off the good bacteria in the gut.

It's so hard to say what will work for each individual. I will tell you though that I think Karen DeFelice's book is a must read: www.enzymestuff.com

Enzymes with any yeast killer will help it work better at the very least. See Yeast/Bacteria link on her site.

Also the Autism Mercury Yahoo group is fantastic for real life advice, these parents have been through it all.
Thanks for your response Jane.

To answer your questions, we have been seeing this Dr. for several months now, but we just completed all the testing she ordered for my son.

We found that he has a number of food allergies. Soy, dairy, corn, egg, pork and wheat being a few of them. Soy was the most severe according to their testing, but I really have my doubts about how reliable it is... Anyways, after that part of the testing was complete I was given a prescription for allergy shots to give him twice a week because they said that I wouldn't be able to cut all of those foods out of his diet.

He is also low in B vitamins, has low glutathione (which a lotion was prescribed for) and has an intestinal parasite called dientamoeba fragilis trophs that was found in moderate amounts in his stool, in addition to the yeast overgrowth. He has not been tested for heavy metal poisoning.

I have been reading about the GFCF diet and would like to try this, but am unsure of how well it will work considering that I won't have the support of my husband or my mom (my only other family). My mom is horrible about feeding my children junk, she wouldn't handle us being on a special diet very well at all. I did join a yahoo group for gfcf recipes/families and looking at many of the recipes I saw that most of them have foods he has an allergy to, so I am not sure what to do about that.

Yes, he does take probiotics everyday, but he is still low in beneficial bacteria. I am not sure if what I am giving him is the best product or not though. His Dr. recommended something called "Ultra Flora DF" that comes in capsule form.

Thank you for the book and support group recommendations. I am just so overwhelmed. The 1st time someone mentioned autism to me was when he was around 2, the 1st time I took him to be evaluated he was 3 and the woman tried to write me a prescription for a ritalin-type drug. She said to me "If he had another illness you would give him medication right? It is the same thing. He is sick and he needs medicine."

I never took their prescriptions, but I did give him antibiotics for his endless ear infections and dutifully took him in to well-appointments for his many, many vaccinations. I know that I was doing what I thought I was supposed to do, but it is sad to know that I have helped cause many of his problems. At least I realized the truth before causing any harm to my younger children.

Lynsey
post #91 of 591
G'morning, everyone,

I had the blood test done to check for CD and it came back negative. I am pretty happy about that, but still want to cut grain consumption because it's giving me icky symptoms.
post #92 of 591
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No yeast, I sneaked that on in there again. Why on earth does raw fruit send his poops to mush then??
I don't think CDSA is considered 100% reliable for yeast. CDSA is good for other bacteria but DD comes up negative for yeast on CDSA also but extremely high positive for yeast metabolites (D-Arabinitol) on an organic acid urine test...plus definitive other symptoms. Our DAN explained that there are numerous reasons why yeast might not show up in a CDSA. It could be that it is located higher up in the digestive tract so that there's not much coming out in the stool, or one DAN mentioned something like that the body may be coating it in antibodies so that it is there but does not grow in the lab setting.
post #93 of 591
Hi everyone,
I hope you don't mind a newbie asking some silly questions! I'm just wondering how you know if you need to "heal the gut." I've got some issues, but I'm not sure whether this is the right place to start.

I've been having bowel problems, which I've traced, in part, to the selenium supplements I was taking. I've since stopped, but things still seem off. I'm often gassy and the bathroom is uninhabitable after I've used it (sorry if tmi). I take Sodium Ascorbate, soak all of my grains, eat sourdough, yogurt, and kefir (and I've started eating kimchi, too), but some of these things seem to add to the problem. My mom has IBS, and I'm hoping I'm not getting it, too. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Also, my family has a history of depression and general nervousness/anxiety, which I've unfortunately inherited. I was going to ask my dr. about anti-depressant meds, but then I saw something on this forum about amino acid and diet/nutrition therapy. Is this something anyone here knows about?

Thanks,

Kelly
post #94 of 591
Pattyla--I eat 8-12 Tbsp/day of CO. No butter because of DD's dairy intolerance. I have 1 Tbsp in a cup of herbal tea, 3x/day (I'm making my own tea blends for liver support and digestive support). I make a "thousand island" salad dressing w/homemade mayo (1/2 EVOO & 1/2 CO) and eat a couple of salads a day, so that's another 1 1/2 Tbsp/CO and about the same of EVOO a day. Plus I have a Tbsp with my fried eggs in the morning and add 3-4 Tbsp. in soup for lunch (good way to get both bone broth and fats in). Then if I make a casserole for dinner I add 4-6 Tbsp/CO to that.
post #95 of 591
JaneS--any opinions on whether I should continue with the Bifidus probiotics for DD once she starts solids, or go with a regular infant probiotic that contains other strains?
post #96 of 591
I finally have some concrete proof that the anti-candida diet is working for me. We're visiting DH's family and I have been pretty much eating the SAD for the last week--I planned to eat well but we have been on the go and eating most meals at restaurants, and it just has not happened. I've also eaten a ton of sugar:

But...I've had a sore spot in a molar (probably a cavity but haven't been to a dentist) for over a year, and I noticed that it is pretty much gone. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back after all this sugar, but clearly the diet was healing it (it didn't improve at all on the SCD), even with no butter/butter oil in my diet.

I've also been really bloated after going off the diet...probably the sugar alone would make me bloat, but I know I was bloated when I started the anti-candida diet, also, and that had gone away, so yet another sign that it was helping.

I'm kind of frustrated because I feel like I'm undoing all the progress I made over the last couple of months on this trip, but at the same time, I think going off the diet for a bit is a good thing for a couple of reasons--one, because I am very confident now that it was helping, and that will help me stay on it. Also, I was really getting to the point where I was totally obsessing about food--obsessing about eating healthy foods, and fantasizing about eating junk food, which basically led to me totally binging on junk when it was available. After a bit of soul-searching I think I can finally have a realistic attitude about food now--sticking to the diet without obsessing about either eating perfectly or eating junk, and just letting myself heal SLOWLY (it takes forever it seems like!).
post #97 of 591
Cademyn - I agree, the duration is hard to handle. When I started I thought it was an accute issue to be dealt with. Over time, with reading, etc., Ive come to the realization that it is a year(s) long thing On one hand, its exciting to think of the power of food and how well we're taking care of ourselves now, but on the other, I am a big believer in *everything in moderation* for a balanced happy life. I think eating *junk* has its place, and it is sad to not have that in the mix right now. I too am in my 6th week and have noticed little/no change - it IS very hard to keep the faith, also when ones Dh is "not that interested in yeast". Im wondering; you mentioned that you were going to go off garlic this week with your family and do candidase or candizyme instead (i guess your altered diet would not allow you to tell whether it was *helping* or not though). Im very curious about the efficacy of enzymes on yeast - should i fork out the $$$......
post #98 of 591
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Originally Posted by momandmore2
Hi everyone,
I hope you don't mind a newbie asking some silly questions! I'm just wondering how you know if you need to "heal the gut." I've got some issues, but I'm not sure whether this is the right place to start.

I've been having bowel problems, which I've traced, in part, to the selenium supplements I was taking. I've since stopped, but things still seem off. I'm often gassy and the bathroom is uninhabitable after I've used it (sorry if tmi). I take Sodium Ascorbate, soak all of my grains, eat sourdough, yogurt, and kefir (and I've started eating kimchi, too), but some of these things seem to add to the problem. My mom has IBS, and I'm hoping I'm not getting it, too. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Also, my family has a history of depression and general nervousness/anxiety, which I've unfortunately inherited. I was going to ask my dr. about anti-depressant meds, but then I saw something on this forum about amino acid and diet/nutrition therapy. Is this something anyone here knows about?

Thanks,

Kelly

Did you start all these things at the same time (kimchi, kefir, SA etc...)?
They can cause massive die-off by themselves, let alone together. Go easy with the probiotics...one thing at a time and when things settled in your tummy, then add another one.
Stinky poop could be bacterial overgrowth.
Or it could be the kimchi. Fermented cabbage makes my BM-s stinky too, but I can tell it's the cabbage.
How much selenium were you taking? I'd rather do 1-2 soaked brazil nuts...
Soaking grains is great, but still don't overdo it. Our diet shouldn't be centered on grains, even if they are soaked. If you have gut issues you might want to get off grains for a while.
IBS could run in families because they tend to eat the same things.
The WAPF diet is great for life but it will take much longer to heal than SCD for example, because you're still doing a lot of carbs.
post #99 of 591
Thread Starter 
[QUOTE=Im wondering; you mentioned that you were going to go off garlic this week with your family and do candidase or candizyme instead (i guess your altered diet would not allow you to tell whether it was *helping* or not though). Im very curious about the efficacy of enzymes on yeast - should i fork out the $$$......[/QUOTE]

I'd be interested, too. I'm about to order some candizyme...
post #100 of 591
Nolansmum, if you cut out all sugars for a month without cheating, it will get easier. Make sure you are getting enough chromium and vanadium to help stabilize blood sugar. to you.

Jane, to you and the little guy. Sorry he's having to go through so much testing to find out what's wrong, but glad that you're able to afford to pay for the testing. Or have great insurance!

Selu, I've heard that the blood test for CU isn't that reliable, and that there is a stool test that is far more accurate. I can't remember the name of the company and have lost all my old bookmarks. If I can dig it up, do you want me to PM it to you?

Kelly, go over to the PPD forum, there is a thread there on "a completely natural remedy for PPD" that includes info about amino acid therapy. I didn't work for me, because the aminos gave me migraines, but some women, gale force in particular, have really benefited from them.
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