How log to wait to ttc after getting mercury fillings out?

[hethir]

How long should we wait to ttc after having my one mercury filling removed? What can I do to help detox any of the mercury that may leach during removal?
Anyone done this before ttc?
I think It would be benificial to my pregnancy and breastfeeding to not have mercury in my body. I am also following NT way of preconception nutrition.

[newcastlemama]

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[moneca]

Any mercury that might have gone into your gi tract if your dentist was not careful will exit in 3 days. However, your extracellular mercury levels will remain elevated for at least 6 weeks. Did your doctor use safe protocol www.iaomt.com using a rubber dam, two high power sxn to outside source, positive pressure oxygen per nasal apparatus? Did he drill it out or cut it and then remove the chunks? Drilling exposes you to much more mercury. Did you only have one removed because it was your only one or because it was damaged? Extracellular (that which has not been absorbed by your brain and organs) does circulate to the fetus and is absorbed 6 times more by your baby than you. The fetus is just like a sponge for mercury. It also passes through your breastmilk, but your baby has much less expsoure at that point than when in utero.
Safe chelation is a long process. www.noamalgam.com I'm not very toxic and this process will take me a year. A lot depends on your detoxification pathways and how well they work. To give you a better answer I'd have to know a bit more about your amalgam history. The most certain way to know if you're mercury toxic is through a DDI hair analysis that you can get at www.directlabs.com I know that this is much more information than you asked for, but mercury is not a clean and pretty topic.
Taking larger doses of vitamin C (natural is best - Amla or acerola because it contains all the natural components, but sodium ascorbate will also work) will decrease some of the toxicity from your recent exposure. See http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=507310 for more info on this.
Following NT is excellent as I swear this has made my chelation process much easier. Kombucha is touted in NT and is a natural detoxer. I don't know that it does anything for metals, but you could go to the traditional foods board or check more info out here : http://www.happyherbalist.com/analysis_of_kombucha.htm which also has other links.

[hethir]

Wow, Moneca you are the poster I have been looking for all my life!
I have not had my one and only mercury filling out yet. We will be seeking a Dr. that is passionate about removing it, with all the precautions you have listed.
I have found this clay http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/claybath.htm during my research on the detox I will do once it is out, it is supposed to be as effective as chelation, quicker, easier and cheaper.There are some herbs that will also be added to the clay and teas that are supposed to specificaly help with mercury detox. Also in my research I found a Dr. that focuses on mercury detox and he says cilantro made into a pesto and eaten at every meal, Clorella, garlic, vi C, Vi E,and a HIgh protein diet.This is his website and research http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=86&i=2I We drink Kombucha everyday (we are reps for it in Cali.) I will probably test myself before and after procedure and detox to make sure it is all out. We are ttc endish of Oct. It is ok if we have to wait a little longer if need be.

[kaPOW!]

what about leaving them in

What's the concensus on leaving them alone while trying to conceive? Unfortunately I have many more than one amalgam (12 cavities filled 2 months after delivering my 15 month old : ) It might be a long time before I'm able to afford the removal...then more time to detox...then menopause?

Has anyone here had babies with a mouthful of amalgams?

Thanks!

[moneca]

Originally Posted by hethir

Wow, Moneca you are the poster I have been looking for all my life!
I have not had my one and only mercury filling out yet. We will be seeking a Dr. that is passionate about removing it, with all the precautions you have listed.
I have found this clay http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/claybath.htm during my research on the detox I will do once it is out, it is supposed to be as effective as chelation, quicker, easier and cheaper.There are some herbs that will also be added to the clay and teas that are supposed to specificaly help with mercury detox. Also in my research I found a Dr. that focuses on mercury detox and he says cilantro made into a pesto and eaten at every meal, Clorella, garlic, vi C, Vi E,and a HIgh protein diet.This is his website and research http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=86&i=2I We drink Kombucha everyday (we are reps for it in Cali.) I will probably test myself before and after procedure and detox to make sure it is all out. We are ttc endish of Oct. It is ok if we have to wait a little longer if need be.

Wow, that's awesome that you only have one. That is also pretty rare. Consider yourself very blessed. With only one filling your chances of being very toxic are rare. It is dependent on your natural detox system. Remember that mercury enters every cell of the body. As far as the clay bath, that is one natural alternative I don't believe would hurt. I've been taking bentonite clay every morning for over a year and did it for 6 months befor ttc with dd. At the time I was having migraines and slurring/mixing order of words. I had no clue what was going on, but after taking the clay for 4 months the migraines and speaking issues were gone. At the time I just thought I was toxic with environmental chemicals because I didn't know any better. I now know that it was mercury toxicity thanks to my 7 amalgams and way too many vax from working as an RN. I have looked for true research on clays as chelators, but have never found anything that was worth much. Therefore I don't suggest them, but just relate my story. I did do a stool toxin test while on the bentonite before begining chelation just to see what the bentonite was doing. It only showed a medium amount of lead coming out and a challenge test (which is very dangerous - never do it) showed extremely high lead.
Please go to www.noamalgam.com to see what Cutler says about chlorella products. They are not safe. They do pull mercury from the brain and organs, but will rerelease it before exiting the body. Loose mercury has the highest affinity for the brain and liver so you could very well end up with more in your brain than you started with.
It is excellent that you are going to test your toxicity before ttc. Are you going to use a hair elements test?
I just had 8 oz from my first batch of kombucha yesterday. I got it for DH and never thought I'd like it since I HATE tea. It was delish! I knew it was a detoxer, but never thought about it working on metals until this morning. I woke at 5:30 and could not go back to sleep. I've always been a sound sleeper and this only happens when my extracellular mercury are high. I've learned this throughout my chelation process and I had this for months before starting chelation. I haven't had this in over two months and am stable and not increasing my chelators anymore. I never had a headache which would suggest redistribution to the brain. The kombucha was the only new thing. Hmmm. Now, I don't know that kombucha would cross the bbb at all. The basic premise of dumping mercury out of organs that Cutler gives is that as mercury leaves the extracellular area through any natural detox or chelation then it will begin to dump out of the organs into the extracellular spaces. I think of it as a concentration gradient type issue. I did a bit more research and found a pretty amazing testimony (at the very bottom of the page) to the mercury chelation ability of kombucha at the WAP site here :

www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/kvass.htm

[moneca]

Originally Posted by maybeknott

What's the concensus on leaving them alone while trying to conceive? Unfortunately I have many more than one amalgam (12 cavities filled 2 months after delivering my 15 month old : ) It might be a long time before I'm able to afford the removal...then more time to detox...then menopause?

Has anyone here had babies with a mouthful of amalgams?

Thanks!

You're gonna hate me. I had 7 fillings while ttc, prego, and bf. Dd has health issues that may be mercury or they could be related to the vax she got up through 6 mo. I did a DDI hair elements test on her and she came back medium high for mercury and lead along with 7 other toxic metals. This is where I really believe my poor detox system zinged her. I've never been sure because of the vax. Keep in mind that I'm 34 and got most of my fillings between 10 and 14 years of age. The vax from nursing school came in the early 90s. I've had a lot of years to store up the mercury.
Jane's story (she'll probably be along soon) is what convinced me that babes in utero absorb much more mercury than we do. As I said before, they're like a sponge for mercury. Jane had, I think, 10 amalgams. Her ds never had any vax. His hair test came out high for mercury and he met a counting rule (Cutler's method) that suggests mineral derangement due to mercury toxicity. I never put much stock into the fetus absorbing much mercury until she shared her test results. I always blamed it on vax.
Knowing what I know now, I would at least get the hair elements test from DDI www.directlabs.com and go to www.noamalgam.com to find how to get a correct interpretation and evaluate for mineral derangement which suggests toxicity despite mercury levels being low. You can also come to the chelating mamas thread further down this page and we'll help you.

[hethir]

Wow, that's awesome that you only have one. That is also pretty rare. Consider yourself very blessed. With only one filling your chances of being very toxic are rare

I became health conscious when I was a teen so the rest of my fillings are the white stuff (can't remember the name...)

Please go to www.noamalgam.com to see what Cutler says about chlorella products

I can't find any info it only talks about the book he is selling.

I found a urine test you can do at home. Do you think that is going to be acurate enough? I want to do something that is easy for other people to do. I am going to be documenting the whole process.

I did a bit more research and found a pretty amazing testimony (at the very bottom of the page) to the mercury chelation ability of kombucha at the WAP site here :

That is so awesome! We drink komucha everyday and have seen alot of different benefits, my favorite being digestion, but now I am may have a new one.

Here is one study I found on the use of clay externaly, internaly and mercury (from vaccines) http://www.eytonsearth.org/mercury-t...onite-clay.php The results are pritty dramatic.

[kaPOW!]

Originally Posted by moneca

You're gonna hate me.

No. No hate. Except maybe for the dentist who plopped an ounce of mecury in my teeth. And even then I blame myself for not taking it as seriously as I now realize that I should have.

I don't know what I'm going to do. Seems like it does little good to get tested before having them removed, seeing as that will be the first step anyway. And I can't have them removed until I'm finished nursing. My 15 m.o. is still pretty boob-centric, so I'm probably looking at years from now. That's years to save up money for removal, though...then years to detox...maybe I'm just in an Eeyore mood, but it's starting to look like adoption. With a lot of luck, the bio mom won't have had amalgams... sigh.

Is there any chance that someone with 12 amalgams might not be toxic to the point of baby problems? Maybe? Possibly?

[kaPOW!]

oops, I forgot to thank you for the information.

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[moneca]

Hethir - Problem with a urine test for mercury is that it only measures what your are excreting. This would be dependent on your natural detoxification system. This would also not tell you how much you have stored in your organs. Challenge tests to pull the mercury for the duration of the test would be dangerous. If it were me I would do a hair test, but that is because I read Cutler's book. Unless your detox system is trash you shouldn't be too bad only having one filling. How long have you had that filling. Maybe 10 years? Getting it out is the best thing to do even if you haven't decided on a detox yet.

[hethir]

Thanks Monica, maybee testing wont be needed.

[moneca]

Originally Posted by maybeknott

No. No hate. Except maybe for the dentist who plopped an ounce of mecury in my teeth. And even then I blame myself for not taking it as seriously as I now realize that I should have.

I don't know what I'm going to do. Seems like it does little good to get tested before having them removed, seeing as that will be the first step anyway. And I can't have them removed until I'm finished nursing. My 15 m.o. is still pretty boob-centric, so I'm probably looking at years from now. That's years to save up money for removal, though...then years to detox...maybe I'm just in an Eeyore mood, but it's starting to look like adoption. With a lot of luck, the bio mom won't have had amalgams... sigh.

Is there any chance that someone with 12 amalgams might not be toxic to the point of baby problems? Maybe? Possibly?

Glad you don't hate me. You are right to not touch those fillings until you have weaned. How toxic you are depends on your natural detox pathways. for instance I know that DH has much beter pathways despite being 7 years older, eating crap, and being raised on formula instead of BM. I was a BF baby and eat nutrient dense diet. He has 4 huge fillings and I had 7 small ones. I had lots of signs of toxicity and he has very minimal ones (that we know about anyway). I was always at a loss until he just told me the other night that he only had a few of the mandated doses of vax in the 60s because he fought physically to the point that 4 people had to hold him down and they gave up. I had all my childhood vax in the 70s plus more in nursing school and boosters at new jobs. No wonder my detox pathways are trashed:.
Only you can make the decision. Do your own research instead of trusting what people tell you since you will be the one dealing with the outcome.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by moneca

Jane's story (she'll probably be along soon) is what convinced me that babes in utero absorb much more mercury than we do. As I said before, they're like a sponge for mercury. Jane had, I think, 10 amalgams. Her ds never had any vax. His hair test came out high for mercury and he met a counting rule (Cutler's method) that suggests mineral derangement due to mercury toxicity. I never put much stock into the fetus absorbing much mercury until she shared her test results. I always blamed it on vax.

Yes, plus the freakin' failed root canal tooth pulled at end of my first trimester that probably had a mercury post.

Edit: and my gut problems impeding my detox. I think it could be possible that a person with a lot of amalgams cannot pass problems onto their child if their diet is very high in nutrients and their detox pathways are working. I wasn't that.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by hethir

I can't find any info it only talks about the book he is selling.

His posts re: cilantro and chlorella are on Yahoo groups:
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/