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post #1 of 24
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My baby was due Aug. 27 by LMP dates and Sept. 1 by an early ultrasound (at around 6 weeks). My midwife has known these dates since I hired her back in January. Well, today is Sept. 5 and babe is still not here. My midwife said with an ultrasound date of Sept. 1, she wouldn't start worrying until Sept. 14 EXCEPT she has booked a trip out of the country leaving Sept. 8! We have only one other midwife in the city, she was trained and practiced in the UK but has not practiced for 7 years (is getting back into it now) and has never been at a homebirth (I guess in the UK she did hospital births) and she is also leaving on a trip on Sept. 10! (thus not exactly a prime candidate for the 8th/9th).

My midwife is attending a conference out of country, so I realize she had to leave, but she is actually visiting a friend for the first week, so in theory, she could have booked her trip closer to the conference date and not during a time when she had a client due...I didn't find out she was leaving on Sept. 8 until last week (knew she was leaving in September but never thought she'd book something so close to my due date).

So, my options (if babe doesn't show up in the next 3 days) are have an unassisted birth (with about 2.5 days to learn everything I need to know about it in case babe comes on the 8th) or go the hospital. Neither option I ever expected to happen. I had a hospital birth with my first (but had midwives for doula support) because I didn't have the money for a homebirth. This time round, we had the money and even bought a new house for the birth (so this is a pricey homebirth! ). I am so NOT prepared to go the hospital and last time the hospital slowed my labour drastically.

My midwife has suggested stripping my membranes but it is not something I want done since if she wasn't leaving, it wouldn't need to be done! Also, she checked my cervix and I am not dilated yet so she said stripping would be difficult and painful at this point anyway. She also recommended some of the "natural" induction methods (sex, nipple stimulation, homeopathy, spicy food, etc.). I've been doing a few of those anyway but am annoyed that I should even have to look into these things at this point.

Help!
post #2 of 24
Honestly, if I were you I would prepare for a UC rather than go to the hospital. There is nothing that you need to learn, your body already has the knowledge. Your brain doesn't really belong in your birth space anyway, it's not something you need to think through. You do not need any special supplies. If you already have a birth kit then you are prepared. Have a big bowl handy to catch the placenta, some chux pads to lay down and some embroidery thread and a sharp knife if you plan to cut the cord. Just tie off the cord and cut it when you're ready.
Most first timers go 10 days past their EDD. The second time is a crap shoot.
And for me, stripping membranes never did anything to bring labor on and it freaking HURTS.
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post #4 of 24
this just plain sucks. my mw was going to go out of town 4 weeks before my due date and still had a back up arranged for me in case I needded anything. From another state and one she did not even work with- but knew. This is very very poor of your mw and she should have never assumed you would not have been 2 weeks late. I had my 2nd baby 12 days after edd. I would plan a uc and hope she is there.( if you even still want her) I would also be very honest to her about your dissapointment.

Shame on her for suggesting you to induce naturally or otherwise to fit her "schedule"! She should have been honest from the get go- then you could have decided with all the info. what is going on with payment of these services?

Hugs mama. I am so sorry.
post #5 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the links to the UC threads, guess that's what I'll be reading today!

I don't really have a birth kit, I have a list of "stuff" my midwife asked me to have on hand, but she carries all the "medical" supplies (including oxygen in case baby needs resucitation). Basically I've got a garbage container, garbage bags, a couple of bowls, some sippy straws, plastic to cover the bed, etc. but I don't have anything like cord clamps or other medical supplies.
post #6 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamsInDigital
And for me, stripping membranes never did anything to bring labor on and it freaking HURTS.
I read about the procedure and it seems like lots of people have had the same experience you did, which is exactly why I don't want it!
post #7 of 24
You really don't need a lot of "stuff" for a UC. Diapers, baby clothes, a bunch of clean receiving blankets, chux pads or a pile of clean towels, pads for you- what else WOULD you need?

There's no need for a cord clamp if you wait til the cord stops pulsing before cutting it.
post #8 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emilie
Shame on her for suggesting you to induce naturally or otherwise to fit her "schedule"! She should have been honest from the get go- then you could have decided with all the info. what is going on with payment of these services?

Hugs mama. I am so sorry.
I know, if I wanted this kind of treatment I would have had an OB. She did tell me that she had a conference to go to in September, but she never said she possibly wouldn't be around for my birth and I should have a back-up plan. The stupid thing is, she isn't my "ultimate" choice for a midwife and if I had known she might not be around, I likely would have planned for a UC from the beginning.

Unfortunately it was difficult for her to do any back-up planning as there is only one or two other midwives in our entire province. We don't have any regulation for midwives here so it's highly unlikely a midwife would come from another province as she wouldn't have any insurance and could likely lose her license practicing in a province with no regulation. BUT, she could have booked her trip for a week later or let me know at the beginning that I should plan for a hospital birth (or something else) in case she would be gone.

I have paid her half of her fee so far. This portion usually includes he pre-natal appointments and labour support if you are transferred to the hospital. The other half is payable after the birth and is for the actual homebirth portion. I was already not expecting her to provide any labour support as I have hired a doula for that (and who is able to make it to the birth no matter when it is!). The doula I have hired is much more my style. The midwife I was having there just for the medical aspect.
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthla
You really don't need a lot of "stuff" for a UC. Diapers, baby clothes, a bunch of clean receiving blankets, chux pads or a pile of clean towels, pads for you- what else WOULD you need?

There's no need for a cord clamp if you wait til the cord stops pulsing before cutting it.
Okay, I have everything you mentioned other than the chux pads. I have no idea where to get those around here, but I am sure some sort of medical supply store would carry them. I can call around today and find out. As for what else I would need, I guess I am worried about the unexpected, so needing oxygen, the skill to resucitate a newborn, the skill to deliver a babe with its hand over its head, etc. I obviously have more reading to do about a UC as right now it just scares me.

We are waiting for the cord to stop pulsing (even with the midwife), but I thought it needed a clamp anyway, if it doesn't, fine with me!
post #10 of 24

This makes your midwife look pretty unprofessional, imo.
My midwife did a lot of visits after the baby was born...everyday the first 3-4 days and then at 2 weeks. Just checking in t osee how we were all doing physcially and emotionally.

Is there anyone else? Any other midwofe, lay midwife, experienced doula??? I'm not opposed to UA but if it were me I'd want a midwife or somebody there to assist me in moving around, getting dry towels,etc.

I'd recommend you not strip membrane or break your water or whatever...could make for a harder labor.

Best wishes.
post #11 of 24
I would be VERY upset with the mw for not having a back up plan in place!!! What was she thinking????

As for the chux. You can get them at any drug store in the aisle with Depends.
post #12 of 24
Something like old towels would work too. You can do this mama I *accidently* ( ok not a complete accident ) had a UC with my ds, and we did not need anything besides towels, a bowl for the placenta, and diapers/blanket for the baby. We did have our midwife show up half hour after he was born (nursing happily with the placenta in a bowl next to him), but really she was not needed at all. Read up on the UC board if that helps you feel more comfortable. I read there some before I gave birth, but honestly my instincts just took over when it actually happened. Trust that your body was made to do this!
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by TechnoGranola
Thanks for the links to the UC threads, guess that's what I'll be reading today!

I don't really have a birth kit, I have a list of "stuff" my midwife asked me to have on hand, but she carries all the "medical" supplies (including oxygen in case baby needs resucitation). Basically I've got a garbage container, garbage bags, a couple of bowls, some sippy straws, plastic to cover the bed, etc. but I don't have anything like cord clamps or other medical supplies.
Actually, my MW doesn't carry oxygen because it's not nessecary. The best resucitation is using your own mouth if baby needs it.

I personally would just do the UC if it came down to it. I'm actually thinking about planning to accidentally have a UC.

Good luck and keep us informed.
post #14 of 24
Yikes!!! I would be crazy if this happened to me...this sounds so bad. Not to be clear from the get go? I mean it is one thing if she is really sick or gets hurt or someone close in her family and she can't attend you...one always has to be prepared if something like that happens...but to book a trip and not tell you when...and if she did mention it...did you not ask her when she was leaving?

Your midwife should at least try to get you someone with ooh expereince from another province, no? Have you met with the Britich midwife, perhaps she is a good option?

Is she a part of a professional organization you could bring this serious issue up with?

I am so sorry this is happening to you...have you talked further with her about this?

Good luck with this issue! Keep us updated... Paige
post #15 of 24
Thinking of you mama. It sounds like you have all you need. Why don't you ask your mw for the supplies and that if she is not there you plan to go it alone and need some cord clamps?

I am sure you can use other things though. qWhat is your partner saying about all this? I am so sorry mama. Maybe she just is not supposed to be there ya know?
post #16 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by TechnoGranola
I guess I am worried about the unexpected, so needing oxygen, the skill to resucitate a newborn, the skill to deliver a babe with its hand over its head, etc. I obviously have more reading to do about a UC as right now it just scares me.
I see a lot of posts that seem to indicate that you do not need any additional knowledge for a UC, but there are things I would want to know besides what you mentioned.

I had an unplanned UC; dd delivered herself, I was only the vessel . Dd sqeaked at birth , pinked up right away , and started nursing within a couple of minutes . About 30min later mw#1 arrives (friend of regular mws). We wait for cord to stop pulsating and wait for me to be ready to "push" the placenta out . Afterwards mw#1 examins the placenta (I'd want to know, and my attendants to know, what you look for. She told dh but I was in another room so I didn't hear). Later mw#2 asks if I'm ready for a potty trip; I sit on the toilet, tinkle: , ask for a peri bottle, try again... nothing. Mw #2 leaves to get something from my birth supplies in the guest room. I keep trying and start to feel warm and "out of it". I tell dh that I'm feeling warm and to get the mw. Dh says she's not in the room (duh). I say that I'm feeling warm, I know it's a bad thing (happened a couple of times when I gave blood without a full tummy) and to get the mw. Mw #1 and #2 come in and lay me on the floor, put a cool cloth on my head, give me some gatorade, and I think put a couple of golden seal up my yoni: . I lay down in bed and I am A-OK (so I would want to know, and my attendents to know, how to recognize blood loss, what you can do at home to help it, and at what point would you go to a hospital).

Since you may be short on time, I would post your particular situation and your questions on the UC board in addition to reading the other posts. I liked having a UC, but I also like having the mws there after.
post #17 of 24
I lost enough blood I started to feel REAL good! I was high as a kite, between that and the oxytocin. I was sitting there looking at the baby, feeling warm and floaty and thinking "this must be that runner's high they all talk about!" As my husband and the midwives all stared at the area between my legs with alarm and the apprentice asked for my informed consent for a shot of pitocin because I was "bleeding a bit more than we like to see" I was like sure, fine, but I figured they were playing it safe. I started to sink back on the bed, relaxed and euphoric and wondered why all these people were frantically watching my crotch and being all busy. I was drifting pretty damn far away before the midwife got my attention, made eye contact, and said "you need to tell your body to stop bleeding." I thought she was a freak, but I think she was just trying to pull me back into my body. It worked, I checked back in and I was OK and no need to transport (they got it under control with some routine midwifery tricks) but if I hadn't had some folks with training and calm heads there, it would have been VERY easy to just keep on floating until my daughter was left without a mama to nurse her and care for her.

Please look into other options. There's a difference between spending a year planning for something this major and doing it at the last minute with no prep whatsoever except advice on a message board. And report your midwife to her professional org, she should know better than to leave you in the lurch like this.

Good luck.
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 

Baby is here!

I ended up going into labour in the wee hours on Sept. 6, babe was born Sept. 7. Sadly I ended up at the hospital, wondering if somehow the stress of all of this led to that outcome...

Here is a brief birth story http://www.mothering.com/discussions...77&postcount=1
post #19 of 24
hugs mama. DD had her head like this and I went 12 days overdue- she did change up and comew out tho.

I am sorry for your loss of your hb.



WELCOME new DD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
congratulations!!!
post #20 of 24
Congratulations on the birth of your new daughter!

Sorry you didn't have the homebirth you wanted...

Enjoy this special time!
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