how to convince my friend not to circ her sons..

[MamaFern]

okay..they dont even exist yet (the baby boys, that is..)..but we were talking yeserday about babies and kids and all of the issues surrounding them (she really wants babies soon) and she said she would circ her boys if she had any..and it really freaked me out!

she was raised in canada (we have been best friends since 1st grade) and her parents are very anti-religion (they are german and dutch originally).. her brother is uncirc'd and they are all non vacc'd, breastfed ect ect..

but she moved to holland and married a muslim man and now thinks really differently than she used to..which is fine to me..but i worry about her too.. and her one day kids.

i know lots of reason why she shouldn't circ her boys and shared them with her.. but she belives its a good thing to do.. so help me show her why its a bad idea.. please!!

[sandals]

Is it possible they want to raise their kids in the muslin religion? I know that we aren't allowed to discuss aspects of religious circ here, so I'll assume that it's not a religous circ:

I would first "gather information" about their reasons and then provide information that addresses their concerns. But, most of all, I would want to just keep talking about it and keeping the lines of communication open. Watching a circ video would be a great idea, but I think that people react better to those once they are already in the mood to think about circ...I wouldn't spring that one right away. Maybe wait until communication on the issue is well established.

[pdx.mothernurture]

We can discuss religious aspects of the circumcision issue in the Religious Studies forum, if you think her motivations are related to her or her partner being Muslim or wanting to raise their children as such.

If her reasons are based on something else, like aesthetics, matching dady, health, or hygiene please let us know and we'll do our best to address them specifically.

Jen

[MamaFern]

it definitky IS a religious thing(she became muslim as well).. so i will move this over to the right place. thanks!!

[Microsoap]

Here, Here, Here!!!

http://www.circumcisionvideos.com/

Scroll down until you see the Mother, "Why Was I Circumcised?" documentary. It's a FREE download (unlike the others that cost) of a 2005 Dutch TV documentary that's 35 straight minutes of logical information and is essential WORTH watching education from a (what I take is either a Jewish or Muslim) adult male who feels he was violated! I didn't know there was a "Circumcision Centre" in Holland. It's a very large file, but worth it and requires the QuickTime player to view.

You'll see a Muslim man himself explicitly mentions how circ is NOT mentioned in their holy book, the Koran (sp? sorry).

[Greeneyes0506]

Originally Posted by MamaFern

it definitky IS a religious thing(she became muslim as well).. so i will move this over to the right place. thanks!!

We are Muslim and decided not to circumcise. Once we researched it, we realized that there is NO mention of circumcision in the Quran. There is a lot of question as to whether or not it is 100% required to be a Muslim. Tell her to do some research into the Quran, Hadith and Sunnah, and to form her opinions based on the religious texts.

[MamaFern]

awesome. thanks!