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Part of our circ/not circing story  

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Ok, my youngest is 3 now, but this still gets under my skin every time I think about it. Hopefully I'll get over it someday, but I can't believe how insensitive my mother and SD can be sometimes.

When my oldest was born, we had him circ'd. It's a long story, but I knew in my heart of hearts the second they took him from me in the hospital that I was making a big mistake, and my fears were confirmed when he was brought back to me curled in a tiny ball and dried tears on his cheeks. It was confirmed again during the hellish healing period, and confirmed yet again when he was 2 and his babysitter told me upon picking him up that "he was stuck to himself and I pulled it loose" and when I inspected his penis found it angry red and oozing all over again. I swore repeatedly that I would never, ever circumcise another son of mine.

Noah was born. My DH and I had to repeatedly reassure the hospital staff that no, we didn't want a circumcision, and yes, we knew what we were doing. Silly me, I forgot to mention to my mother that we weren't doing it. We had left her out of our decision making process because, well, it really wasn't any of her business.

When Noah was a week old, we were at my mom's house and she changed him for me. Kept her mouth shut until dinner, when we were all seated at the table. She says, why didn't you circ Noah? I said, I didn't think it was necessary. See, my mom and I have a friendly relationship, but she is so overbearing sometimes that I clip my answers when she asks me controversial questions just to avoid getting extremely pissed off.

She says, what, your insurance didn't cover it? (Like that's the only reason I didn't have it done) I said, no, Blue Cross still covers circ. I just didn't think it was a good idea for my son (getting a lil pissed now) she says.....I'LL PAY FOR IT IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT.

Ok. Now I was mad. And to top it off, my SD (who is Jewish) says........
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I CAN'T BELIEVE YOUR SON HAS A DOG DICK.

He was a week old. I packed up both of my sons and left that house so fast, even my DH was surprised. I didn't speak to her for a couple of weeks, and when I did, I told her the state of my baby's penis is not an appropriate topic for dinnertime discussion, and that I was HIGHLY offended that my SD said what he did. I let it be known that we were never to discuss this again, because I am incapable of separating my emotions with my mom, and especially because they are incapable of intelligent debate and instead resort to blatant attacks on my intelligence and my beautiful son's body.

We haven't discussed it since, but she never changed another diaper.
post #2 of 10
OMG, I would have been royally PO, glad you took your boys and left! Good for you momma! I am so sorry you had deal with such an incredibly disrespectful, horrifically offensive insult to your son's beautiful, healthy, normal and PERFECT body.

(((Hugs)))

When we know better, we do better.

Jen
post #3 of 10
I'm am so sorry those words came out of a human's mouth. Everytime I hear stories like this I just want to apologize for some of the human race Good for you for protecting you son from both the surgery and the ridicule, like a momma should!
post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by sandals
Everytime I hear stories like this I just want to apologize for some of the human race
: It never fails to amaze me the vile stuff that can come out of peoples mouths :Puke
post #5 of 10
OMG! I'm speechless. But, my evil twin says - If your SD ever says anything about it again - ask him to whip his out and tell/show what is so great about not having a foreskin.

Of, course you don't really want that to happen but it might shut him up.
post #6 of 10
OMG, how ignorant and insensitive. I'm so sorry they treated you like that. Good for you walking out and making it clear how awful that was. I swear if any of my family ever said anything so ignorant it would be the last they would see us.
post #7 of 10
Good for you for standing up to your mom and stepdad and leaving the house!! That takes guts.
post #8 of 10
OMG that made me SO ANGRY! : I think you handled it perfectly! My MIL saw my son naked one day and made some comment about how he was running around showing off his "little uncircumsized thing".....what is REALLY interesting is that she actually didn't have my dh circ'd. She lost a daughter nine months before he was born, and she said that she was so out of it that having him circ'd just slipped her mind. His brother is circ'd. Boy, am I glad that it slipped her mind!
post #9 of 10
I am sorry about what was said to you. It is terrible.

Here you have a beautiful, healthy baby, and all people care about is cutting off part of his body and making him unwhole! Its almost as if they are angry that he IS whole, perfect, complete, and healthy, and cant wait to imperfect him. In other countries, people are relieved that the child is born whole and healthy. Here, it seems it makes people so angry and hateful that they are willing to have the child carted of and made unwhole.

Good for you for walking out. I would have too.

Your account is what people need to hear, to shock them into reality, about what circumcision is, how traumatic and harmful it is. Perhaps, you should consider writing a detailed account about what MGM did to your child, how harmful and traumatic it was, etc. People need to realise that this is a torturous and traumatic event that is very harmful, and that the suffering lasts long after the initial event, so they will realise that just giving the child an anesthetic wont prevent his suffering. Of course, what is also wrong about it is the violation of body rights and the loss of an essential body part. It might help convince others to leave their child whole. This sort of account would be a good addition to the "Parents who regret circumcising their son's thread".
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
thank you for your replies Everything is pretty settled now, of course, but every now and then something makes it bubble to the surface and I get angry all over again.

Last year my DH (now XDH) had custody of the boys for a semester while I was in school, and one night I had a dream about his new wife retracting Noah when she changed him. It was so vivid and terrifying that I called him as soon as I woke up in the morning to make sure that Angela understood that she couldn't retract him. He said of course she knew (she's from Colombia and apparently they are more enlightened about penis care there than many are here)

BUT, he said that Noah had been complaining about pain when he urinated, and that his foreskin was ballooning while he peed. He said they took him to the doctor who promptly diagnosed that the opening in his foreskin was too tight and that they needed to cut him. Boy, did I freak. See, he was in CA and I'm in AZ, or I would have just picked him up right then and there. I demanded that he get a second (or third or fourth) opinion and to do some research, and I emailed him some literature about it. Then I broke out the big guns and told him that if he circ'd Noah to be prepared for a lawsuit. It was one of the most stressful and helpless feelings I have ever felt before. I mean, we went through Nicolas' trauma together, I thought he felt the same as I did when we decided not to circ Noah, and then for him to just roll over for some stuipd doctor the second he said "boo" really hurt my feelings.

Well, needless to say, he didn't do it, even though he said he was taking Noah to a urologist. And now the boys are home safe with me where no doctor will ever get his filthy hands on them.

And as for Noah's "pain", he has never mentioned it to me. And yes, he is ballooning, but the only trouble that causes is some unfortunate aiming
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