Need help with moms ignorant co-worker!

[mamamoogs]

Ok i will try to make this quick.
My mom works with a women around my age 34 who can't believe that I stopped vaxing my dd at two months old (she is now 2 years old) and that i get away with it, (what the hell does that mean)
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why my mom feels the need to discuss this with her i will never understand. My mom is for vaxes, I am not, so now we butt heads all the time on this issues,

well I really dont care about that, what i do care about is that her co-worker keeps telling her (my mom) that it is illegal in the US to not vax, and that I will not be able to enroll my child in school, ( she apparently didnt want to give her 4 year old his booster and was told she must for school) I dont know that whole story but thats not my point here, so i keep telling her (my mom ) that this lady is a whiff and i have the right to vax or not well she states that i dont have this right it is the law and what am I going to do when DD starts school.

Now i normally would not care about what others say but this co-worker of my mom is driving me nuts with all her so called knowledge (please)
so is there any piece of info I can email her to shut her mouth up
stating that it is my right to not vax my child and that i can get an exemption when i am ready to send my dd to school please direct me where i can get this info just want something quick without getting into the whole why I dont vax . This women is not a friend of mine i dont owe her any explanation on this, just want her to stop harrasing my mom and filling her head with crap.

I appreciate it.
thanks

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by mamamoogs

so is there any piece of info I can email her to shut her mouth up stating that it is my right to not vax my child and that i can get an exemption when i am ready to send my dd to school please direct me where i can get this info just want something quick without getting into the whole why I dont vax .

Do you want the PA religious exemption form?

[EVC]

Tell her to show you the law mandating vax'es in the US.....Yup, there isn't one.

As for school, every state has at least 1 exemption, and some all three.

Vax'es are not required by law in the US. Period.

Put the burden on her to show you this "law" that she claims exists.

[LongIsland]

Here's the PA exemption certificate with the exemption portion on the reverse: http://staff.wcasd.k12.pa.us/teacher...nformation.htm



(b) Religious exemption. Children need not be immunized if the parent, guardian or emancipated child objects in writing to the immunization on religious grounds or on the basis of a strong moral or ethical conviction similar to a religious belief.

Link to that code: http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/02...bchapCtoc.html

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

I would go ahead and find the PA exemption either religious, medical or philosophical sp* and print it out or pick it up make copies and give one to your mom so she can show the co worker.

[Gitti]

HOw about this one -

http://www.mercola.com/article/vacci...void_shots.htm

[LongIsland]

Also, here's the PA immunization requirements for school entry: http://www.dsf.health.state.pa.us/he...A=178&Q=242070

I guarantee your mom's coworker got her child more vaccines/doses than requried for PA, since the federal recommended schedule usually varies from state requirements:

4 doses of tetanus (1 dose on or after the 4th birthday)
4 doses of diphtheria (1 dose on or after the 4th birthday)
3 doses of polio
2 doses of measles
1 dose of mumps
1 dose of rubella
3 doses of hepatitis B
1 dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine or history of disease

She could have gotten four doses of DTaP instead of the recommended five (and pertussis is not even required - she could have gotten DT).

She could have gotten three doses of polio instead of the recommended four. She could have gotten her child's titers checked in order to avoid the second dose MMR or could have gotten the monovalent measles vaccine . . . or she could have submitted an exemption.

That's what happens when you don't know your state laws.

[mamamoogs]

Long Island thanks for the links although the problem with first one is this is what will be read and she will say "told you it was the law" with out reading further.


The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania requires that all students meet certain immunization requirements before they may enroll in school. A "PA Immunization Certificate" is maintained and updated on each student. The certificate is a formal document which is mailed to the student with the last senior report card. The certificate should be kept in a safe place and will serve as an official record of having received the required PA immunizations. Proof of immunization is frequently requested for college application, employment or military service.



Gitti i did send your link to mom telling her to pass it on...

When i told her to send me proof of such a law i got the vax scedule by email to me from her i guess she thinks thats the law...

keep them coming i am goin to google some myself but i will check before monday.

Thanks

[mamamoogs]

oh and i am just going to go ahead and get this exemption now why wait right.

what do i do first?

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by mamamoogs

oh and i am just going to go ahead and get this exemption now why wait right.

what do i do first?

You don't need to submit an exemption form until school starts - do you mean where do you get the form?

[mamamoogs]

I just read that exemption need to be renewd every school year , i guess if this is correct i guess i will have to wait until DD is ready for school.

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by mamamoogs

I just read that exemption need to be renewd every school year , i guess if this is correct i guess i will have to wait until DD is ready for school.

Where did you read that an exemption must be renewed annually in PA? While the immunization history on a student must be updated, the exemption only needs to be submitted once in PA.

The PA exemption form is used to exempt your child from daycare/school entry requirements. The form is not used for any other purpose.

[mamamoogs]

Rule No. 4: Medical waivers are always valid but must be written to fit each state law and often need to be renewed annually.

this was the link gitti gave me


http://www.mercola.com/article/vacci...void_shots.htm


It was for medical exemptions i did not read it clearly. it didnt state which states either, i need to find that out...
sorry...

[Lisa85]

I would just quote the first paragraph on exemptions and then list the link. The actual state's website is probably the only link that's so called 'credible'.

[Plummeting]

Originally Posted by mamamoogs

Rule No. 4: Medical waivers are always valid but must be written to fit each state law and often need to be renewed annually.

this was the link gitti gave me


http://www.mercola.com/article/vacci...void_shots.htm


It was for medical exemptions i did not read it clearly. it didnt state which states either, i need to find that out...
sorry...

No, you don't need to worry about which states require the medical exemption to be renewed annually. PA doesn't require the religious exemption to be renewed annually and that's the one you will be using, so the rest of it is irrelevant.

[DayDreamer]

I live in PA, I do not vaccinate my children, and my daughter is in public school. (Son is too young).

I have a letter that my doctor keeps in my childrens files stating that I do not vaccinate for religious reasons INCLUDING a strong moral or ethical belief similar to a religious belief. When my DH registered my daughter for school, he took the letter with him and the school said "wow, that's actually more than we need. we just need you to fill out this form." The form was very similar to this:http://www.woodmed.com/VaccineExemption.htm

I was hospitalized recently and when they asked me in the ER if I had any religious beliefs they should be aware of I said "I do not believe in vaccinations" and they said, "for you or your entire family." I said "my entire family" and the nurse replied with "you know your kids can't go to school without vaccinations" and I snarkily replied back "she already DOES go to school!"

Also if your mother and her coworkers don't believe you, have them call up a local school district and point blank ask them "can a child attend school without vaccinations?" That should shut them up!

[annettemarie]

I live in PA and selectively vax, but according to my son's "official" record, he's not vaxed at all. I claim a religious exemption and the school has never tried to stop him from attending.

[mamamoogs]

yet another debate with mom at 9am...

Oh my lord, I feel like i am talking to a tree when i talk to my mom, i told her that i sent her over some info on vax exemptions and to please read befor she talks to me about this again.

well then she starts arguing with me that she hopes i know what i am doing not giving my dd vaxes it will mean homeschooling and she is very worried that i am making the wrong decision, well i cant take it anymore,

i blew up at her, i said more like yelled "this is my daughter not yours i am doing what i beleive to best for her and then I proceeded to say you had your three children and did what you thought was best for us now butt out and do not i repeat do not ever bring this subject up to me again unless you want to risk not seeing my DD or me for that matter because i will stay away " and then I hung up on her, now i feel bad but I just cant take this harassment anymore. Any one else have to deal with this crap with their family or mom for that matter?

[InfoisPower]

With your last phone exchange I think you made your point and your boundaries crystal clear Mamamoogs. I think your Mom won't push you anymore.
If she does, follow through on your threat, OR hand her "Just a Little Prick" By Peter and Hilary Butler and walk away.

[Gitti]

You are talking about two different things:

1. here you examine exemptions in general

Originally Posted by mamamoogs

I just read that exemption need to be renewed every school year , i guess if this is correct i guess i will have to wait until DD is ready for school.

This is wrong.

2. here you are quoting about medical wavers

Rule No. 4: Medical waivers are always valid but must be written to fit each state law and often need to be renewed annually.

This is correct.

But you can't just mix and match.

Of course a medical waiver needs to be renewed annually. Your child's health, allergies, whatever reason... may change.

But a religious exemption will stand and does not have to renewed.

You are using a religious exemption, right?

BTW, I just read about your last phone conversation with your mom, why don't you invite her to this forum so she can find out for herself?