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I am putting this under Montessori because I am wondering if you other Montessorians out there have the same experiences. My daughter just turned 2, we have just moved to Rome and we have been desperately looking for a nursery for her, 3 hours per day, while I take an intensive Italian course. I would LOVE to put her in Montessori but the international Montessori school that I had selected is nowhere near where we ended up getting an apartment and there are no other Montessori schools for two-year olds that are close to us (and we live in Rome, Italy. Can you believe it?? The irony of it all!!!).

So, I have been visiting nurseries and daycares of all kinds, and it just depresses me so much. When I enter a daycare, nursery or preschool, I ask myself, what are the children here doing? Do they look like they are just passing time? Or are they having new experiences here that allow them to grow, emotionally and intellectually. And in every single case, it is clear beyond doubt that the children are...just passing time. There is inevitably lots of crying from the younger ones who feel neglected in a room of 20 children and 2 teachers, one or two boxes of plastic toys, half of which are broken or so used that they should be put in recycling, shelves of disorganized pull-out trays filled with junk, things strewn on the floor and chaos everywhere. At the end of last week, I was ready just to get a part-time nanny. But my daughter is so bored at home with just one adult. She begs me to take her to see other kids and I just cannot imagine that being with a nanny for three hours is going to do it for her (and we don't know any other people with children at this point). So I caved and we are sending her to the nursery at the British school. It's the same deal as the rest - small room, boxes laden with junk, old playdo encrusted on the table - like a child's room that has not been tidied in months. But at least there are 2 very nurturing teachers for 10 children (instead of 20) and you never hear crying.

I just really really really hope that I can get her into the closest Montessori children's house next year. Really.
post #2 of 7
I don't know if this will help you or not, maybe you have seen these or do not live close by. I have heard that there still is some sort of Montessori organization at the location of the original casa dei bambini in the San Lorenzo area of Rome. Maybe you can get some information from them about casa dei bambini in the area. It is unfortunate that Mussolini closed all the M schools in Italy, apparently they were all over the place before the war. She relocated to India and then to Amsterdam.

http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&lr=...393&output=htm
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http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&lr=...76&output=html
http://www.montessori.it/scuolemonte...alia/index.htm
http://www.montessori.it/scuolemonte...alia/index.htm
post #3 of 7
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The problem is that she is only just 2 years old and very few of the schools have toddler program. She is too young for the children's house, which only starts at age 3.
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I'm sorry about that. Hopefully this nursery you've selected will be good. If not, do reconsider getting a nanny. I have friends who nanny and they are always taking the children out, to museums, to playgrounds, and so on. They are not hurting for social stimulation. And they'd probably be more agreeable to operating on your principles.
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The problem is that she is only just 2 years old and very few of the schools have toddler program. She is too young for the children's house, which only starts at age 3.
Well, scuola materna starts at 2.5 years old, if your daugther is 2.5 by september, she could start the school.
The start at 3 was according to the old law. My son, for example, started the school before being 3 years old, as he was born in december and was 2 years and 9 months old.
Scuole Montessori a Roma: http://www.montessori.it/scuolemonte...alia/lazio.htm
post #6 of 7
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Hi Teresa,

No, she is not 2.5. She only just turned 2 in August and honestly, I think her being in a classroom with 29 children aged 2.5 to 3 years would be too much for her. She needs the lower child-adult ratio for the time being. I just wish I could find a nido that I liked.

I have been already through the list of that link that you provided about 20 times and there is nothing available for our DD that is anywhere near us and even then ones that we could drive to have been completo since April of this year. But thanks anyway for your input.

Thankfully, next year there are TWO Montessori casa dei bambini that are reasonably close to us and so it will be just a question of getting her into one of them!
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Hi Teresa,

No, she is not 2.5. She only just turned 2 in August and honestly, I think her being in a classroom with 29 children aged 2.5 to 3 years would be too much for her. She needs the lower child-adult ratio for the time being. I just wish I could find a nido that I liked.

I have been already through the list of that link that you provided about 20 times and there is nothing available for our DD that is anywhere near us and even then ones that we could drive to have been completo since April of this year. But thanks anyway for your input.

Thankfully, next year there are TWO Montessori casa dei bambini that are reasonably close to us and so it will be just a question of getting her into one of them!

In my opinion 29 children in a classroom are too much. My son is in a Montessori class of a state school, and if I don't make a mistake they are about 18 children. There is a teacher and another teacher for children with special needs.
Instead of a nido you can try a "ludoteca" it is a kind of daycare with activities for little children. My son attended a ludoteca every morning since he was 18 months old, the children there were playing, painting, dancing, singing, etc. Some ludoteche ask the parents to stay, other are more like a daycare.
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