Heres another reason not to give birth in the hospital

[gentlebirthmothr]

Well, I read on somewhere that when medical students especially women while doing their OB and peds rotations. They can't help hold the babies and so on while they are in the nursery. I'm not sure about residents or fellowers do the same?

It definetly bothers me for sure.

[alison_in_oh]

I'm confused. What bothers you? What can't med students do?

[BelgianSheepDog]

Are you saying the female students play with the babies?



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[gentlebirthmothr]

alison_in_oh and belgiansheepdog,

Basically, what I'm saying is they hold, feed, look at them when the babies should be with their mommies, families, friends.

[RosesArePurple]

Well, for my first one (except for the NICU stay) and my upcoming one, my babies will be rooming in/roomed in with me at all times.

However, if my baby must be in the nursery or God forbid, NICU, as long as they aren't feeding him/her without the Mom's permission, I don't see the problem with the staff holding the babies. I think the more a baby is held, the better.

And since some Moms actually *choose* to send their babies to the nursery for various reasons, perhaps it's kinder to the babies in that case to have other people hold them.

Or are you saying that the staff forces the babies into the nursery in order to play with them?

I just don't see the problem here except for non-parent-authorised feedings (which would make me hopping mad).

[annettemarie]

Yeah, I can't get to upset about this. If, for some reason, a baby is in the nursery, I would rather they be held and cuddled and cooed at than left alone in an isolette.

[gentlebirthmothr]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

Yeah, I can't get to upset about this. If, for some reason, a baby is in the nursery, I would rather they be held and cuddled and cooed at than left alone in an isolette.

Annettemarie,

[DreamsInDigital]

Both of the hospitals I had my older two had rooming in only and the nursery was only for sick babies.
But I still would never give birth in a hospital again.

[gentlebirthmothr]

Originally Posted by RosesArePurple

Well, for my first one (except for the NICU stay) and my upcoming one, my babies will be rooming in/roomed in with me at all times.

However, if my baby must be in the nursery or God forbid, NICU, as long as they aren't feeding him/her without the Mom's permission, I don't see the problem with the staff holding the babies. I think the more a baby is held, the better.

And since some Moms actually *choose* to send their babies to the nursery for various reasons, perhaps it's kinder to the babies in that case to have other people hold them.

Or are you saying that the staff forces the babies into the nursery in order to play with them?

I just don't see the problem here except for non-parent-authorised feedings (which would make me hopping mad).

rosesarepurple,

, for responding to my thread on this. I'm not saying that the staff forces the babies into the nursery in order to play them and I hope they don't do that.

[BelgianSheepDog]

Yeah since the trend is for healthy babies to always room in, I am having trouble getting upset about this too, other than feeding without consent. The babies in the nursery that must be left alone overnight or whatever need the love and attention, though. If I had needed to leave my daughter alone in the NICU for any longer than we did, I would have hoped the doctors and nurses would have been affectionate towards her when we were away, rather than just coldly poking her, you know?

[Colorful~Mama]

Yeah - I birthed vba2c in hospital and my son roomed in with me and was never in the nursery. If for some reason he had to be away from me I would be happy someone would be holding him when I couldn't be there



Barb
mama to a 16.5yo, a 6yo and a 3yo

[gentlebirthmothr]

Originally Posted by BelgianSheepDog

Yeah since the trend is for healthy babies to always room in, I am having trouble getting upset about this too, other than feeding without consent. The babies in the nursery that must be left alone overnight or whatever need the love and attention, though. If I had needed to leave my daughter alone in the NICU for any longer than we did, I would have hoped the doctors and nurses would have been affectionate towards her when we were away, rather than just coldly poking her, you know?

belgiansheepdog,

[cchrissyy]

does anywhere have classic nurseries anymore?

I've toured 7 nothern california L&Ds and they ALL had empty nurseries that babies only went to when the PARENT asked for it, but as a matter of policy all 7 had constant rooming-in.

[annettemarie]

Originally Posted by cchrissyy

does anywhere have classic nurseries anymore?

I've toured 7 nothern california L&Ds and they ALL had empty nurseries that babies only went to when the PARENT asked for it, but as a matter of policy all 7 had constant rooming-in.

Around here they are plenty. There are actually still a few hospitals with mandatory separation policies. :

[hlkm2e]

My mom is an L&D nurse, but sometimes works post partum. She says sometimes moms send their babes to the nursery and want them there all night. She said the nurses aren't allowed to use slings because of washing them or some other stupidness, but that they will zip the babies up in their sweaters and wear them kinda kangaroo style while they do their paperwork. That way they aren't crying in the bassinets all night. So, I guess I think it's a good thing that nurses and others are comforting the babies.

[alison_in_oh]

Yeah, I was always warmed by my husband's instruction to his fellow med students to hold the babies close and secure so that the nurses didn't think they were afraid of babies. If the baby has to be in NICU I'm glad somebody's holding it!

And no, I don't think that any random residents are finding the free time to visit the nursery unnecessarily!

[angelpie545]

I think that babies should always room in with their mothers unless there is some medical reason for them to be in the NICU or special care. However, if there are babies in the nursery I'm glad that someone is holding and caring for them.

[Megs_BK]

At the Children's hospital in Portland, Oregon, there is actually a volunteer baby-holding program for NICU babes. One of my college friends would do that between her nursing clinicals. Babies need to be touched to thrive. It's as simple as that. Mine roomed in with me during our hospital stay, but every 12 hours they did a "baby roundup" for the Pediatrician to check all of them out at once. She spent an hour or so away from me (another reason I was happy to go home, but it was tolerable and I could attend to my own needs during that time). I'd be much happier thinking she was being snuggled in capable hands. I liked it when the nurse would report to me what she did while she was away... I guess one of the times, there was one other baby girl in the nursery and the two girls carried on quite the gossip session ;-)

I realllllly think it's a stretch to say that, because compassionate medical professionals care enough to get their hands on the babies, it's a reason not to have a hospital birth. Contrary to much of the popular opinion here, the medical community is not full of dirty liars who want to ruin your or your baby's life.

[intorainbowz]

At the Children's hospital in Portland, Oregon, there is actually a volunteer baby-holding program for NICU babes.

Nicu Mommy here.... I am only referencing my expereince here. I am sure there are babies (I've seen them.) when no one visits and holds them.

That said, I would have been livid had the hospital had volunteers holding my little one. Infection risk is a huge reason for this. Another reason is our time to hold her was limited because of overstimulation concerns, so if a volunteer was holding her, that would take away my time with her. I visited DD twice a day, my mom usually went once a day, and DH visited with me at night.

And with that said, I am grateful that there were nurses willing to coo and give her love and attention. One time when I arrived, I saw the doctor talking baby talk to her and playing while he assessed her. I saw nurses telling her that mommy was coming, or singing to her. One nurse felt that DD was bored, and let her listen to jazz quietly on the ipod that day. DD loved that. (DD was bored.) Once DD became less prone to overstimulation, it was ok for me for the nurses to hold her. The ipod nurse once apologized for holding her most of the day (she called it spoiling) because DD would cry unless held. I had no problems with that.

[anothermama]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

Yeah, I can't get to upset about this. If, for some reason, a baby is in the nursery, I would rather they be held and cuddled and cooed at than left alone in an isolette.

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