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post #21 of 45
Hi from the May DDC, KBinSTAX!

We've had a lot of babywearing ups and downs as well. It took awhile to get dd to like her pouch sling, but she finally did...but it killed my back (dh likes his very much, though). Once she hit a few months, she wanted to be upright and kicking, so the pouch wasn't working for us. I tried a ring sling, but was never able to figure it out. We have a Bjorn that we got as a gift, and dd loved it, but it also kills my back and we don't like to use it much b/c of the potential for pelvic problems. Everyone told me to get a Moby, so I did--and it took me WEEKS to figure it out (today was actually the first time I got that sucker to work--twice!), but now that I see how it works, it's perfect for us. Keep on trying...and sell those carriers you don't want on the TP! Make some of your money back and you can invest it in something that works for you.

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Originally Posted by KBinSATX
I am struggling with babywearing, too.
Homebirth? Loved it!
CD-ing? Count me in.
Breastfeeding? DS never had a bottle or pacifier in his life.
But finding a sling we both like? It's tough!
I bought a pouch. Also bought one for DH. Hated the pouch so there goes $80. Bought an Ergo carrier. Very comfortable once baby is in but tough to get baby in and out. Spent $100 on that. Also got a ring sling (another $40) but just can't seem to really get as efficient in adjusting it as the lady in the video. So most of the time I carry my 20-pounder in my arms (or even better take DH with us so he can do some carrying)
I'll try the ring sling again once DS is more proficient at head control. It also should be easier with the Ergo once I no longer need to fiddle with the infant pillow. But in that transition time it really is easier for me to carry him in my arms.
Baby bucket isn't even an option because my little guy outgrew his infant seat within the first 3 months...
post #22 of 45
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I am struggling with babywearing, too.
Homebirth? Loved it!
CD-ing? Count me in.
Breastfeeding? DS never had a bottle or pacifier in his life.
But finding a sling we both like? It's tough!
I bought a pouch. Also bought one for DH. Hated the pouch so there goes $80. Bought an Ergo carrier. Very comfortable once baby is in but tough to get baby in and out. Spent $100 on that. Also got a ring sling (another $40) but just can't seem to really get as efficient in adjusting it as the lady in the video. So most of the time I carry my 20-pounder in my arms (or even better take DH with us so he can do some carrying)
I'll try the ring sling again once DS is more proficient at head control. It also should be easier with the Ergo once I no longer need to fiddle with the infant pillow. But in that transition time it really is easier for me to carry him in my arms.
Baby bucket isn't even an option because my little guy outgrew his infant seat within the first 3 months...
I think you should try to sell what has not worked and get some money back. I also think you should try a mei tai carrier.
post #23 of 45
I think the biggest problem is Babies R Us and Target don't carry quality slings. When I was TTC and pregnant with DD I probably read EVERY review on those two websites since they are the places you register at. If you read the reviews of strollers some get good reviews some get bad, exersaucers some good some bad, carriers....all bad except the super expensive Baby Bjorn. When I look back now the $76 (at that time) baby bjorn is about the same price as a MT, but compared to the $30 Snugli and everything else you think its too expensive. Granted I didn't think twice paying more then that for the exersaucer my DD hated. If Hotslings or Peanutshells were sold at Babies R Us which are priced similar to the Snugli and others, with its good reviews, people would probably buy them and use them. But since the slings at BRU have bad reviews you just don't register or buy one at all.
post #24 of 45
Well, there are some women who just plain can't sling.

I've got a back problem, and when I stand or walk for more than a few minutes, my left leg goes numb. I was always afraid to babywear because I was so afraid of falling with my son. Pushing him in a stroller was a much safer option for us.

--Olive
post #25 of 45
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Originally Posted by bigbellydreams
carriers....all bad except the super expensive Baby Bjorn. When I look back now the $76 (at that time) baby bjorn is about the same price as a MT, but compared to the $30 Snugli and everything else you think its too expensive.
So true! I do think that the bad reviews of carriers have some to do with people just not knowing how to use other-than-mainstream carriers. And they have no idea where to turn.

If more people knew about www.NineInNineOut.org or www.TheBabyWearer.com, I think more people would be inclined to find something better.

Price is a different story, though. I suppose it would be easy to hire cheap labor, but so many of the WAHMs who are making quality carriers are paying decent dollars to get quality seamstresses. That and a MT is so labor intensive to make.
post #26 of 45
Yeah, in a few years I sure hope that MTs don't still cost $65. They cost way too much to make for that retail price. So hopefully (for the sake of a fair wage for those making them) the market will grow and eventually support a more correct price point for them. A Baby Bjorn Active costs $120 and compares more favorably to a MT, but is still only a front pack. But for all the baby gear that many of us spend money on or receive as gifts, and the value that a good baby carrier (or two or three) adds to our parenting lives, hopefully, a lot of people will be able and feel willing to pay a higher price for a quality carrier like a well-made MT or a great sling.
post #27 of 45
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Originally Posted by momeeboys
Price is a different story, though. I suppose it would be easy to hire cheap labor, but so many of the WAHMs who are making quality carriers are paying decent dollars to get quality seamstresses. That and a MT is so labor intensive to make.
I don't think they need to be cheaper then they are, there just needs to be several at the same price point. When I looked at the carriers at BRU, the Baby Bjorn looked too expensive compared to the others. If there were 4-5 carriers the same price I wouldn't have winked at the price, I'd just think thats what they cost, not that one was out of the ball park.
post #28 of 45
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Originally Posted by bigbellydreams
I don't think they need to be cheaper then they are, there just needs to be several at the same price point. When I looked at the carriers at BRU, the Baby Bjorn looked too expensive compared to the others. If there were 4-5 carriers the same price I wouldn't have winked at the price, I'd just think thats what they cost, not that one was out of the ball park.
Oops, my bad. I was looking at your post from my perspective that I initially thought MTs were so overpriced. Until I made a few.:

Wouldn't it be great if the day would come when a brand-name MT would be sitting side by side next to a Bjorn in a retail store.
post #29 of 45
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Originally Posted by momeeboys
Oops, my bad. I was looking at your post from my perspective that I initially thought MTs were so overpriced. Until I made a few.:

Wouldn't it be great if the day would come when a brand-name MT would be sitting side by side next to a Bjorn in a retail store.
Oh I thought that too when I first saw them! I also thought that when I saw the price of a pouch and so I googled patterns and decided to make my own. When I googled patterns for a MT I decided to buy one.

I totally want to see a MT next to a Bjorn at a big store! I don't think I've ever seen a MT in any store. I have started seeing pouches though!
post #30 of 45
There are loads of babywearers where I live. I see them every time I'm in the grocery store. Even men with slings! I do the babywearing thing a lot, too. I have a snugli that was given to me and a tube pouch that I made (which is way more comfortable than the snugli) but sometimes the stroller's just a better option, for a few reasons. First, DS likes to kick and stretch a lot and gets bored and being stuck in a carrier too long. Second, sometimes I walk to the store and don't want to have to carry the baby and everything I bought and hold onto a leash (dog usually comes too) so it's better to have a stroller with some cargo space. Plus, DS loooves his carseat. I don't know how many times he's been fussy and crying and there seemed like nothing I could do and it turns out he just wants to be put down, especially in his carseat.

I still babywear on a regular basis, though. Works really well for around the house or when I go walking at the dog run which has no paths. I don't think there's one partiular baby transportation method that is overall superior. Really, I just do what works!

As far as the consumer rush, my stroller/carseat/baby bucket combo was a gift and I made my sling. My husband's a full time student, so I don't get to experience that!
post #31 of 45
For me, when pg with DS, it was the same reason we went with sposies. All we knew was what Parents magazine told us and what was at BRU. The magazines made fun of AP, so I was turned off by that and didn't pursue any of the traditional AP issues (of course we BF and co-slept, etc. but still didn't realize we were AP until DS was about a year old, lol!). We went to BRU and tried on a sling but hated it; DH thinks "baby bjorn" is a stupid name so we registered for a Snugli. But after using it a few times I realized I hated that, too, so the baby bucket it was!

I confess I still love my stroller. I hate carrying a diaper bag and LOVE that big basket underneath for holding stuff. But this time around I'm collecting all kinds of carriers and looking forward to using them!
post #32 of 45
I agree with the other posters who said it is for a lack of information on all the great-looking slings,etc. that are out there!

I have tried to wear my babies but I only had a crummy one from Target or one of those gigantic ones from an "Other Mothers" type store. They never fit right and were sooo uncomfortable-for baby AND me! I am short so I suppose that is part of the problem, too.

With my last baby I tried a Maya Wrap, but again, I just couldn't get it to fit comfortably so I only used it a few times.

I plan on trying a Moby Wrap with our baby due in October. My husband saw a woman with one on and thought it was the neatest thing - go figure?! He even went up and asked her all about it! I was soo surprised, usually he doesn't notice stuff like that!

Sooo, I hope a Moby will work for me as I really need to have my hands free and yet want baby to be happy!
post #33 of 45
I have a pouch but I don't use it all that often. I don't know if it is just a wrong fit or what but it's not really that comfortable for me. I ended up just carrying my son a lot--now with my daughter too. I hardly ever use a stroller with her--I just carry her.

I don't have the $$ to be buying a bunch of different slings to try. Many of them are really expensive even used. And I don't know how to make one myself. And we live in the middle of nowhere with no babywearing groups around here.
post #34 of 45
Okay seriously, I DO babywear often but I always bring a stroller too. Why? Because I get freaking tired! Because my back starts to hurt! Because my baby is squirmy and hot and pulls my hair! With a stroller I have a basket to set my purse and my diaper bag. If I sling him, I have to carry it all. My 9 month old weighs over 22 lbs and was 10 lbs. at birth. I'm 17 weeks pregnant. It's a lot of stress on my body already. Carrying the baby for an hour while grocery shopping or through the farmer's market KILLS me and I have really bad sciatica pain for days afterwards.
Seriously, I love the idea in theory but in practice it gets really physically exhausting. I have a Hotsling and a Sling Set.
post #35 of 45
I don't know. Baby wearing seems pretty popular around here, all different kinds. (Men and women too.) I have never noticed a sigma about it. The trend continues to grow more and more as baby wearing tools improve and get more easy to find or make.

My 1st DD wouldn't take to a sling or carrier much. I tried she just didn't like it. Hold me or put me down.

My 2nd loved the Bjorn, but I was never able to find a sling that worked for us. I wish I would of tried more and harder at it. If I ever have a 3rd child I am getting a sling. I even know what kind I am going to try 1st this time (but not give up if we can't make it work.) My 2 year old still likes to be held or carried (thank God she is small.)

Then again I always liked strollers too, great places to put your bags and other things to carry instead of the baby too. Also I used to stroll the older child and use a carrier for the baby.

I know in the winter here with young babies I like to use the car seat to take the baby in public places. I could keep her bundled up in the car seat and carrier don't work well over coats (slings too I would imagine.) I just makes things easier getting out of the car and into the building.

I don't see why it has to be stroller or baby wearing. We always did a little bit of both when appropriate.
post #36 of 45
I have to agree with the posters who said it's because mai tais, slings, ect . . . are just not available at the "tradition" baby stores and most "mainstream" mamas and mamas to be only go to those big stores. I know that whenever I go out with dd in my mei tai Or my Ergo (which I think is becoming more mainstream) people ask me where they could get one. I think alot of people are intimidated with having to buy something online. I think Mei Tais are so beautiful that if they carried a varitety of different prints and patterns at baby's r us women would just eat them up. There has to be more publicity about babywearing too other then just baby bjorns and snugglis. I see lot of people wearing those. I had one too in the begining and thank goodness I discovered the ergo and mai tai or I don't think I'd be babywearing anymore.
post #37 of 45
You're right. There does need to be more advertising. www.NineInNineOut.org is in the process of really breaking out of it's shell. There is lots planned and so many groups being formed across the US, Canada and in Europe.

Babywearing, IMO, will always start with a grassroots campaign. As NINO gets bigger and is able to help fund smaller groups in their advertising efforts, word will be spread, demand for these other-than-Bjorn-type-carriers will be high and those other shops will start carrying Mei Tais, etc.

Already several stores here carry Ergos in stock and Zolos, too.

It still makes me sad when I hear of mamas who quit babywearing because whatever they have "doesn't work." Sometimes it's as easy as making an adjustment in the way it's worn. Other times, it takes trying out several carriers. Sometimes success depends on a baby's age, too.

Of coures, I have nothing against strollers at all. They are a huge help in lugging around shopping bags and a 4-year-old who's tired of walking. Seriously, strollers and buckets are terrific to have. And I enjoy babywearing tremendously.
post #38 of 45
I love my mei tais and I also like my stroller.

It's nice to take my stroller when I'm going somewhere where we will be moving all day and I want both me and dd to be comfortable. She likes to nap laying flat and our stroller accomodates that. It also keeps me a lot more comfortable to have a break from her sweaty body and weight while she naps. The carrier is always in the stroller, so if she wants to we use it.

I love wearing her at the grocery store, markets, and festivals. It's way more convenient to maneuver in crowds without a stroller and for short trips, the mei tai is so nice.

Even if just the Ergo (which I hated) was sold in BRU, it would help more mainstream parents choose a healthy alternative to the stroller/bjorn/snugli.
post #39 of 45
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Originally Posted by CelticFish
I think the biggest issue, at least in my area, is that there's only two places I can think of that even sell slings locally, so there's just not a lot of support.
That's the case in my area, too. People have asked me before if I don't have a carrier (referring to something like a cheap Infantino front pack...which I have LOL) or "need" one WHILE I'm wearing DD in a wrap or a MT. They all figured I was just trying to make-do with some fabric. : : Granted, my wrap was just a no-sew sling, but does the average person really think about all those fancy wraps if they were just "making do"?? KWIM? And I was kind of offended.

That said, before I got pregnant, I didn't really even realize there were so many options for babywearing out there. I knew about a Maya Wrap, only because I had seen a friend who'd made one for her DS, but even then, that was the first time I'd ever even seen a sling.
post #40 of 45
Yep, it's lack of information. Before I started researching homebirth and therefore AP, I had seen a grand total of one sling. I'd never seen a wrap. Never saw a mei-tai.

When I started researching AP, it seemed like everything was Maya Wrap and other rign slings.

I cannot wear a one-shouldered carry for more than a couple of minutes because of a shoulder injury. I cannot wear narrow shoulder straps either.

I'm amassing quite the BW collection trying to find things that work well, and many do, but nothing works all the time. I've spent more than I should, and will end up being short of cash by the end of the term (it's always fun when you get paid three times a year...), but I'm in pain less and babywearing more.

Basically I need a wrap, and a supportive one, or a wide-strapped asian baby carrier. I'm a sewing and fabric geek and so i've gotten really into it, but if one doesn't care about fabrics and things it's gotta be hard to keep looking until the right thing pops up.
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