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post #1 of 19
9/22/06 at 1:37am
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Is there a list of alternative foods for people who are eliminating dairy? Milk, cheese and yogurt make up a huge portion of my son's diet.
How similar in flavor are soy based products?
My ds is extremely picky and will rarely try anything new.
post #2 of 19
9/22/06 at 5:48pm
The soy milk and yogurt are OK, but most soy cheeses contain dairy, so read labels carefully. My ds reacts to soy as well, but the rice milk tastes even better.
post #3 of 19
9/22/06 at 11:03pm
Yep, my dd reacts to dairy and soy (and garbanzo beans)...

We use plain (not vanilla) rice milk for baking and cereal, and chocolate almond milk as a treat.

Soy cheese usually has dairy protein, read the package.

We also eat ricecream, oatscream, sorbet, etc.
post #4 of 19
9/22/06 at 11:52pm
we use coconut oil instead of butter. avocado on sandwiches instead of butter/cheese. coconut milk in cooking most of the time. we lucky that we can tolerate homegrown kefir - i've read that when it is fermented long enough, the lactose is completely exhausted by the microbes and, even better, the casein proteins are broken down.
post #5 of 19
9/27/06 at 12:01pm
If you are reactive to dairy you may also be reactive to soy-often people are. We use coconut instead. Coconut oil for butter, coconut milk in cooking/baking and we make coconut yogurt. I also have done coconut water kefir, though I don't really do it regularly.

I make ice cream with either a banana or coconut base. Sorbets are super easy too. You can make your own nut cheeses pretty easily-and I have a to diet for raw cheesecake recipe that even dairy eater ask me for. It's just nuts, honey, lemon and vanilla. There are always alternatives! Ground macadamias and water makes a great ricotta cheese type base.
post #6 of 19
9/27/06 at 12:09pm
firefaery - please share those recipes, especially the cheese ones (or at least point me to a book or website where they can be found). the raw cheese cake in Nourishing Traditions is REALLY good (and not cheesecake, so i dunno why it's called that) but only if one can tolerate kefir (which i can but not all non-dairy people can).
post #7 of 19
9/27/06 at 12:17pm
lurking as we have a dairy/soy allergic/sensitive child too and we are trying to keep things inexpensive and pleasant for the other three kids as well without eating other stuff in front of him. it has been hard. but there are great products out there. we too like rice, almond, and oat milk. hazelnut milk too. we also like coconut milk in soups and stews and curries to make it creamy. we like frozen rice dream snacks. and when i CAN FIND IT uggh lately Nutritional Yeast
post #8 of 19
9/27/06 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by fromscatteredtribe View Post
lurking as we have a dairy/soy allergic/sensitive child too and we are trying to keep things inexpensive and pleasant for the other three kids as well without eating other stuff in front of him. it has been hard. but there are great products out there. we too like rice, almond, and oat milk. hazelnut milk too. we also like coconut milk in soups and stews and curries to make it creamy. we like frozen rice dream snacks. and when i CAN FIND IT uggh lately Nutritional Yeast
that is the key. i was SO angry with dh when ds and i went (uncultured) dairy-free. he continued eating cheese in front of ds (who had been a cheese fiend), even when i asked him not to do so. then i made the decision that we all had to be dairy-free. no cheese in the house. i'm now testing cultured butter and i think we're OK with it.
post #9 of 19
9/27/06 at 12:33pm
raw cheesecake:
crust:
1.5 cups soaked raw almonds
1 cup soaked dates
Blend in a food processor and spread into a pie plate.

Filling:
3 cups soaked raw cashews
1 cup coconut oil
1 cup fresh lemon juice
1 cup raw honey
1 tsp.vanilla

Blend in food processor and pour into crust. Refrigerate for several hours or freeze for an hour or so, YUM!

I'll post more cheese recipes later. The macadamia nut cheese is my favorite though.
post #10 of 19
9/27/06 at 12:46pm
firefaery how do you make the coconut yogurt? I have a yogurt maker and would love to do this - but what do you use as your starter?

Thanks for that recipe for the cheesecake - sounds wonderful!!!
post #11 of 19
9/27/06 at 1:11pm
I use the Progurt starter...very expensive but dairy and soy free. Then for every two cans of coconut milk I add 2 Tbs of honey (so the bacteria can feed) and 2 tbs. of gelatin or agar so it thickens. Very easy. I incubate it for about 10 hours.
post #12 of 19
9/27/06 at 1:14pm
Fantastic - thanks so much!!!! I can't wait to try this!!!!

So can you use the coconut yogurt you made as the starter for new batches or do you always use the Progurt as a starter?
post #13 of 19
9/27/06 at 1:26pm
I always use the progurt to maximize the bacterial content. We do it for the health benefits. You could probably use the previous batch though....it never lasts long enough around here!
post #14 of 19
9/27/06 at 3:29pm
I just wanted to say that these recipes and other suggestions sound soooo good, but ds2 is allergic to coconut and soy and treenuts, too: . But...he's not anaphylactic to coconut so we still have coconut products in the house so maybe I could try to make the yogurt for the rest of us! Hmm....

About Rice Dream products--most of them are made in a facility that also processes dairy. Some of the frozen treats are even made on the same equipment with dairy products. Your comfort level might be different than mine, but ds2 is ana to dairy and I won't risk giving anything made by Rice Dream to him.
post #15 of 19
9/27/06 at 4:02pm
DS is also extremely picky about foods. He has always been allergic to dairy so I didn't have to worry too much about taste differences.

I heard that if you wait awhile between his last taste of dairy until the substitute it helps.

Also, for the cheese I think it is toffutti that makes non-dairy cheese in slices. I started cutting the cheese into shapes for DS to encourage him to eat it. Now he loves his cheese. I have to limit him to 2 -3 a day.

I give rice milk but add a few drops of olive oil to add back the fat that he is missing from milk fat. He doesn't seem to notice. I also use a non-fat butter that I found but add a few drops of olive oil to his food so he gets the taste of butter and the fat but without the dairy or soy.
post #16 of 19
9/27/06 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by Missy View Post
I just wanted to say that these recipes and other suggestions sound soooo good, but ds2 is allergic to coconut and soy and treenuts, too: . But...he's not anaphylactic to coconut so we still have coconut products in the house so maybe I could try to make the yogurt for the rest of us! Hmm....

About Rice Dream products--most of them are made in a facility that also processes dairy. Some of the frozen treats are even made on the same equipment with dairy products. Your comfort level might be different than mine, but ds2 is ana to dairy and I won't risk giving anything made by Rice Dream to him.
so sorry
post #17 of 19
9/27/06 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by mahrphkjh View Post
DS is also extremely picky about foods. He has always been allergic to dairy so I didn't have to worry too much about taste differences.

I heard that if you wait awhile between his last taste of dairy until the substitute it helps.

Also, for the cheese I think it is toffutti that makes non-dairy cheese in slices. I started cutting the cheese into shapes for DS to encourage him to eat it. Now he loves his cheese. I have to limit him to 2 -3 a day.

I give rice milk but add a few drops of olive oil to add back the fat that he is missing from milk fat. He doesn't seem to notice. I also use a non-fat butter that I found but add a few drops of olive oil to his food so he gets the taste of butter and the fat but without the dairy or soy.
what nonfat butter has no dairy or soy??
post #18 of 19
9/29/06 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by fromscatteredtribe View Post
what nonfat butter has no dairy or soy??
It is called Smart Squeeze. I only found it at one store.
post #19 of 19
10/4/06 at 4:34pm
Thanks!
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