A question about sex with a circumcised man - Page 3

[StrongSingleMama]

Originally Posted by Lila

This all makes me really sad that dh is c'd.

Same here. I have only been with DH so I don't know how it is to be with someone that is intact but I know that most of the time after sex with DH I feel sore.

[Nathan1097]

My intact partner asks sometimes if I'm not sore and I say no, as if its wierd he'd expect me to be. He also asks if I'm tired and still the answer is "no"- as if that's silly! (Yay for judo!)

Back on topic, I was with a circ'd man once who seemed to be sensitive enough, however, he was very rough AND what I noticed the most was that he seemed to not understand the concept of nuance. The lightest touch, the slightest thing that has since sent my intact partner into bliss, this guy would just stare at me like "are you going to do anything worthwhile, or just play around?" :

[TigerTail]

I (again), would ask (if you say 'no problem): how old are you, how long have you been sexually active?

I am almost 44, have been sexually active since 14 (those darn swinging '70s ).

If you are young or have been having sex for two years or something, & you say 'no problem', well, you simply have less data to draw a conclusion from!

I know it's kind of personal, but in this case, in this forum, I'm going to be a nosy pushy b!tch when it comes to even an implicit non-condemnation of circ & its effects.

Those years of being a phone *cough* entertainment person gave me a lot of access to people's personal info & opinions, as well. I can tell you that dissatisfaction with American marital sex is rife (and really, not as skewed as you'd think that sample would give you. If there was a common denominator with the folks who called, it was money to burn; not lousy sex lives, morals, bad marriages, etc. It was really very enlightening sociological research.)

[Canadianmommax3]

My first time having sexual intercourse i was 18 and raped by an older man. I have never been with an intact man, so i can't compare but can say i have not had any trouble with needing lube! I will be 38 years old in a couple of months so that is 20 years of sex (not everyday of course! )

[Canadianmommax3]

I will also say, i am enjoying it more and more as i get older.

[TigerTail]

I still have a decade of comparison on ya. Sensitivity, size & thickness, hormone level, all these things make a difference, of course. Everyone's different. (I noticed less pain with less penile thickness, which is kind of common sense. But it's been awhile- I've been with dh for a decade now.)

[Canadianmommax3]

yes you do!! As i said i cannot compare as i have only been with circ. men but maybe i am a very luby (is that a word) but have not needed lube with dh or any other man i have been with.

[Revamp]

Originally Posted by Quirky

Well, do you and your dh ever have to use personal lubricants? It's very common that partners of circed men have to use lubricants, otherwise sex doesn't glide.

True.

Once on another board I witnessed a pro-circumcision mother mention that she experienced this but blamed herself rather than her husband's doctor.

All I could do was shake my head and murmurr the title of Franz Ferdinand's sophomore album.

[TigerTail]

It's extremely common for American women to blame themselves entirely for this phenom.

Oh, that Frank were here. (Female disarousal syndrome? What it is? We even get a name ).

[phatchristy]

I think it is female arousal disorder. Oh, this sort of reminds me of a show I saw a while back about human body (it was on one of the discovery channels a while back). One thing that the scientists had focused on was how human penis size through natural selection by the FEMALE. By a woman's experience of "the way the penis felt" inside, the woman selected the penis that felt the "best" and therefore would produce offspring with the similar traits that she liked. What they focused on was that the human female through natural selection created and perfected what was the best "feeling" penis for her needs. As a result, the human penis is proportionately larger on average. Oh, need I say that the human penis has a foreskin? If women preferred men "without foreskin or with shorter foreskin, etc." then natural selection would have provided it that way.

So, generations of women long before us perfected the human penis. And, they chose a proportionately larger one (in comparison to other species) and one WITH a foreskin. That alone says enough.

Anyhow, just something I thought I would mention.

[phatchristy]

Originally Posted by TigerTail

It's extremely common for American women to blame themselves entirely for this phenom.

Oh, that Frank were here. (Female disarousal syndrome? What it is? We even get a name ).

It's called female arousal disorder. Lovely term, huh? Perhaps we should create another name for it which would more clearly indicate the cause.

The reality is that female arousal disorder is a symptom...not the actual problem or condition that causes it (male circumcision).

[dynamohumm6]

I will say that there is a DEFINITE difference between loose and high & tight circs. I've been with a couple "high & tight" and it is nooooooooo fun. At. All.

[sandals]

A recent study showed that 44% of Americans flat out reject evolution, so maybe that's why people can't really accept the natural selection process argument

[EricaLeigh]

Originally Posted by phatchristy

I think it is female arousal disorder. Oh, this sort of reminds me of a show I saw a while back about human body (it was on one of the discovery channels a while back). One thing that the scientists had focused on was how human penis size through natural selection by the FEMALE. By a woman's experience of "the way the penis felt" inside, the woman selected the penis that felt the "best" and therefore would produce offspring with the similar traits that she liked. What they focused on was that the human female through natural selection created and perfected what was the best "feeling" penis for her needs. As a result, the human penis is proportionately larger on average. Oh, need I say that the human penis has a foreskin? If women preferred men "without foreskin or with shorter foreskin, etc." then natural selection would have provided it that way.

So, generations of women long before us perfected the human penis. And, they chose a proportionately larger one (in comparison to other species) and one WITH a foreskin. That alone says enough.

Anyhow, just something I thought I would mention.

Very, very interesting!!!

[phatchristy]

http://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/116-1181/595/

Here's an interesting journal article...

"Most likely, reported vaginal dryness and the related clinical designation ‘female arousal disorder’ is but a normal female response to coitus with a man with an iatrogenically deficient penis."

[Lila]

oops, double posted.

[Lila]

Originally Posted by dynamohumm6

I will say that there is a DEFINITE difference between loose and high & tight circs. I've been with a couple "high & tight" and it is nooooooooo fun. At. All.

ACK! "High and tight" That's what we have. I got an amazing, wonderful, loving man so I can't complain, but I have never had an easy time of intimacy. It got easier after giving birth, but I still feel kinda roughed-up after. Poor guy hasn't had hardly any attention with this pregnancy. Every encounter leaves me swollen and sore for 2 days. Can a man with so little to work with (loose skin-wise, I mean) have any success with restoration?

[phatchristy]

Originally Posted by sandals

A recent study showed that 44% of Americans flat out reject evolution, so maybe that's why people can't really accept the natural selection process argument

Natural selection is proven by research.....I think it is the whole Darwinian/Evolution perspective that some people may have issues with.

Natural selection is NOT the same thing as Evolution.

[sandals]

Natural selection is NOT the same thing as Evolution.

Never said it was Just speculating that the large number of people rejecting the overall science of evolution in this country may lead to a large number of people rejecting the process of natural selection.

[sandals]

Edit: looking at the study, it says "42% of americans believe life has existed on earth in its present form since the beginning of time". So that would also seem to indicate a rejection of natural selection itself, or any other method of small changes over time.