Healing the Gut Tribe-October - Page 14

[sparkletruck]

Clo

Im looking for recommendations. Dont I want to take around 20,000 mg of vit A, but not more than 1000mg vit D? So if I got a CLO brand with 5000mg A/200mg D per 1/2 tsp and took 1 tsp, Id only be getting 10,000 vit A. How much is *optimal*? How much do you take? Thanks!

[Bestbirths]

Originally Posted by firefaery

RA does tend to be a problem wth calcium, as in excessive calcium in the blood. This can be measured quite easily with a blood draw. Have you done that? Dr. Joel Fuhrman talks alot about this, and he's right on for alot of it-it's just that pesky pH part that's missing. If your body is too acidic it will pull calcium out of the bones and into the blood to buffer it. That is true. Many things can cause this acidic state and the idea is to correct it so the body isn't depleting it's stores constantly. The problem is that everyone in the world (it seems) things that certain foods are the way to do this. I think it is a nutritional problem (as RA is an autoimmune disease) but that different people need different foods to fix it. (anyone tired of hearing about pH levels already? )

A traditional diet is the best course of action regardless for anything...it jsut needs to be tinkered with to suit the needs of the individual. A traditional diet can mean rice, veggies and fish. It can mean red meat, bone broths and sourdough, it can mean beans, chicken and veggies-you get the idea. You need whole foods that are properly prepared. What foods they are (*I *believe) depends on how the kiddo metabolizes them.

For instance, it is my understanding that red meat will ONLY be inflammatory if it is wrong for your body. If it's what your body needs it will actually put you into balance. Does that make sense?

Yes, this makes sense. Maybe if she is to acidic her body is pulling calcium from her bones...I haven't done the above test but I do have ph urine test strips and asked dd to lmk when she has to pee next. Wouldn't the milk diet make sense then? Or just provide her with as many sips of RGM as she would like during the day?

So, generally what would be the ways to alkalize a body with traditional foods, depending upon the person?? Without a test is there a way to figure this out?...dd likes fruit, juice and cheese, and chicken, but she likes red meat too, she loves nuts. We had taken the nuts, nightshades, cheese and red meat out of her diet. I read some weston price and decided to give some raw goat milk a go. She loved the glass of raw goat milk I made her with 1 T carob and 1 T raw honey in it this am. This am we had a bone broth soup with a spoonful of CO added to make them fatter.

Found my kefir...in a glob in a glass jar in the fridge...ok...what is the deglobbing method for the kefir...rinse?....add milk reuse?...or can I make water kefir out of it by adding water? I know maybe I'll read that got kefir thread too.

btw...goat yogurt is in the oven...so is it true that instead of 24 hours, if I just leave it in for 8 or 10 it won't be as sour?

I read that goat milk might help RA...the milk diet....hey isn't THAT 160 degree's from what other's say about avoiding dairy for RA?...Goats are not producing much in our area, so if we attempted a raw milk diet, it would have to be with supplementing with some raw cow milk. I don't see why she couldn't have dairy though, she's completely neurotypical as far as that, no learning disabilities or adhd, or asperger's.

[bluets]

cradle cap and allergy eyes and other ramblings

annikate - you mentioned that cradle cap is a sign of metal toxicity. got a reference? i recall that firefaery said it was a sign of food allergy/intolerance. i'm confused.

ds has cradle cap that is clearing up. if it is food allergy, then i understand where it came from and why it is clearing up. if it is metal toxicity, then i'm at a loss as to why he got it in the first place - i don't have a mouthful of metals, just one little itty bitty composite (tooth-colored) filling. my mercury levels (according to hair analysis) are just fine and his lead levels are well below danger level.

he does occasionally have dark circles. they are much better of late since i reduced our wheat (and often gluten) intake at home but i can't easily reduce it further at daycare or he'll starve (it's a vegetarian daycare with a no-nut policy). and he already knows that he doesn't eat like the other kids they made pumpkin pudding yesterday with whipping cream and he didn't get the whipping cream. of course, it would be too much for them to just consider restrictions when planning their fun food activities :

for me, it is curious (or maybe not!) that i can maintain a nice weight when i have a low grain intake. the free mercola metabolic typing said that i'm mixed type, but then i usually just eat whatever i'm craving at the time. funny how i usually have seasonal cravings too. right now it's the homemade sauerkraut my mom left with us (which ds loves but dh abhors).

[Panserbjorne]

I have always heard (from various docs and nutritionists I work with) that it is a food allergy. I would buy that it's just a sign of imbalance that *can* have multiple causes. I haven't ever heard the metal toxicity before though.

bluets-the free test isn't nearly as extensive as the one you pay for : However Mercola said at the last lecture that a great many people come up as mixed on that one. You'd get a better idea if you took the one you pay for (shocking, isn't it?) I use the one in Wolcott's book-The Metabolic Typing Diet. That way I can retake it whenever (as bodies often can change) IT's a good test, if you are interested.

It is true though that in a healthy state you will crave only what you need. I'm jealous!

[sarasprings]

Hi. I'm lurking and subbing. We just found out about a bunch of food sensitivities my son has and looking into healing his little gut.

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by bluets

annikate - you mentioned that cradle cap is a sign of metal toxicity. got a reference? i recall that firefaery said it was a sign of food allergy/intolerance. i'm confused.

This is what my new DAN doc said the other day when I asked if this was indicitive of yet another food allergy. He said it could be that, could be metals and could be (something else that I don't remember.)

Originally Posted by bluets

ds has cradle cap that is clearing up. if it is food allergy, then i understand where it came from and why it is clearing up. if it is metal toxicity, then i'm at a loss as to why he got it in the first place - i don't have a mouthful of metals, just one little itty bitty composite (tooth-colored) filling. my mercury levels (according to hair analysis) are just fine and his lead levels are well below danger level.

Has he been vaxed at all or had any flu shots? Have you had flu shots while pg. or b'feeding?

Originally Posted by bluets

he does occasionally have dark circles. they are much better of late since i reduced our wheat (and often gluten) intake at home but i can't easily reduce it further at daycare or he'll starve (it's a vegetarian daycare with a no-nut policy). and he already knows that he doesn't eat like the other kids they made pumpkin pudding yesterday with whipping cream and he didn't get the whipping cream. of course, it would be too much for them to just consider restrictions when planning their fun food activities :

Dd's circles will come back immediately with the slightest amount of wheat or gluten.

Interestingly, dd1 gets red under her eyes (like blood vessels) and I *think* that's her way of showing die off but I haven't looked much into this yet.

[bluets]

Originally Posted by Annikate

Has he been vaxed at all or had any flu shots? Have you had flu shots while pg. or b'feeding?

duh. yeah. vaxed to 6 months. cradle cap was manageable and going away at 5 months but then came back with a vengeance around 9 months - right when he got his eczema. eczema cleared up when we quit uncultured dairy (like- cleared up within days)... cradle cap has been slower to go away but we're finally making progress. so perhaps we're finally clearing out the crap from the vaxes and the remaining allergenic proteins.

[bluets]

Originally Posted by firefaery

It is true though that in a healthy state you will crave only what you need. I'm jealous!

well, when i don't have cravings, trying to make a decision about what to eat is next to impossible!

[bluets]

stinky conundrum

dh and i've been struggling with this one for a bit...

"they" say that stinky armpits are indicative of a zinc deficiency. i'm pretty certain that we don't have a problem with zinc, yet i frequently have stinky 'pits and lately dh's smell like a dead skunk (even after he's put on deodorant - more like the Monsters Inc "odorant").

got any ideas?

[Panserbjorne]

I suspect it has more to do with detoxing. When I was about three months into raw even dh commented that I had no odor even if I missed a shower or two. Of course there are more scientific ways to test!

Anyway, many people report having this happen when they do cleanses and detoxes, so it has to be somewhat connected...

[Bestbirths]

Giving my son chlorophyll helps with the stench.

[mamajaillet]

Man..why isn't any of this information mainstream.: All of my babies had/have cradle cap, and everyone acts like it is normal, and gives you advice on what oil worked best for them. Kind of like my dd's major symptom was colic, which "doesn't" have a cause.

Anyways, I wanted to ask you all a question. Is there anyway that one can drink too much kefir, or take too many probiotics, or that enzymes could cause digestive problems. I posted a question about this in allergies, kind of, because since I started all of these things about a month ago, my digestion is way worse. I am barely going to the bathroom anymore, where once I was pretty regular, unless I ate a bunch of cheese. Meat does seem to slow things down for me too, and I am eating way more meat now. But I feel so tired since I started this, sleeping in, taking naps, and also snappy with dh, for no reason. Is this all a good sign, like die off or detox. Feeling so crappy makes me want to stop, I didn't feel this bad before I started trying to heal my gut.:

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by firefaery

I suspect it has more to do with detoxing. When I was about three months into raw even dh commented that I had no odor even if I missed a shower or two. Of course there are more scientific ways to test!

Anyway, many people report having this happen when they do cleanses and detoxes, so it has to be somewhat connected...

THis is making me jealous of all you stinky mamas!

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by mamajaillet

Man..why isn't any of this information mainstream.: All of my babies had/have cradle cap, and everyone acts like it is normal, and gives you advice on what oil worked best for them. Kind of like my dd's major symptom was colic, which "doesn't" have a cause.

I know. : Dh and I were just last night talking about writing a book about all this. Very, very beginner-basics of course (I'm not qualified for anything more! ) but still . . . don't you think other mamas would like to know that this information is at least OUT THERE?

I had no idea until coming to MDC. It makes me sad for all the mamas who have no idea and all the little ones who potentially *could* be helped yk?

[caedmyn]

I realized today my DD isn't even digesting avocado that she self-feeds. I shouldn't give her anything she can't digest, right? Should I only feed her pureed stuff? I mostly feed her, anyway, because she can't self-feed the stuff I really want her to have (like CLO, CO, kefir, probiotics, and bone broth).

firefaery--if my urine is too acid, does that mean I am eating the wrong things or can it be a sign of overall health (ie the candida overgrowth)?

[caedmyn]

Originally Posted by saskiasmom

Im looking for recommendations. Dont I want to take around 20,000 mg of vit A, but not more than 1000mg vit D? So if I got a CLO brand with 5000mg A/200mg D per 1/2 tsp and took 1 tsp, Id only be getting 10,000 vit A. How much is *optimal*? How much do you take? Thanks!

No you want 20000 IU (IU is the measuring until for fat soluble vitamins) of vitamin A and 2000 IU of vitamin D...that's if you're pregnant or nursing, otherwise it's 10000 A & 1000 D. It's best to get a high vitamin CLO which has roughly 5000 IU vitamin A & 500 IU vitamin D per 1/2 tsp. Here's a link to the best price I've found for that (there's only 2 high vitamin CLO's out there that I know of). http://www.building-health.com/foodstore.html#CLO

[Panserbjorne]

That's how I feel about CST. I have many great practitioners that I work with and get to be around their genius all the time. One benefit is that I get the behind the scenes stuff...getting to hear about different cases (nameless of course, unless I am somehow involved) I get to see what happens when things aren't caught and know to catch them myself.

One of the more amazing things is CST. In fact, my latest little imp was having a period of fussiness (which for him means vaguely whining for about ten minutes ) so I took him for CST two days before he was scheduled. The frontal bone had slipped down and was compressing his little brain. It took less than a day for it to migrate back. We were talking and I asked the CST what happens to kids who don't come regularly in the beginning when such minor movements care so major. We talked for awhile and I got a much better picture. It's really sad. I literally watched over the course of a day while that bone moved upwards-and it's not like he hadn't had any work...we have gone twice a week since the day he was born. Little things make ALL the difference, I think it's tragic that all kids aren't required to go for CST. It's even more tragic that they are so adamant about doing harmful things (vaccines) without supporting the babies inherent strengths.

Maybe we should start a campaign and bring awareness to the masses. I mean we all have tons of free time, right?

[caedmyn]

Originally Posted by Annikate

THis is making me jealous of all you stinky mamas!

If it's any consolation I'm not stinky, either Actually I don't even sweat much since I started a whole foods diet before getting pregnant with DD. I don't know if that's a good sign overall, or if it just means I'm not detoxing much at all.

[caedmyn]

Originally Posted by mamajaillet

Man..why isn't any of this information mainstream.: All of my babies had/have cradle cap, and everyone acts like it is normal, and gives you advice on what oil worked best for them. Kind of like my dd's major symptom was colic, which "doesn't" have a cause.

Anyways, I wanted to ask you all a question. Is there anyway that one can drink too much kefir, or take too many probiotics, or that enzymes could cause digestive problems. I posted a question about this in allergies, kind of, because since I started all of these things about a month ago, my digestion is way worse. I am barely going to the bathroom anymore, where once I was pretty regular, unless I ate a bunch of cheese. Meat does seem to slow things down for me too, and I am eating way more meat now. But I feel so tired since I started this, sleeping in, taking naps, and also snappy with dh, for no reason. Is this all a good sign, like die off or detox. Feeling so crappy makes me want to stop, I didn't feel this bad before I started trying to heal my gut.:

I'm guessing you're going through die-off. You may want to back off on the kefir and probiotics and see if that helps. You can make yourself feel really lousy if you introduce too much too fast and overwhelm your system. Also, do you normally have problems with dairy? It's possible the kefir could be causing problems for you if you do. Increasing your intake of coconut oil should help you have more energy.

[Panserbjorne]

Caedmyn-ultimately it's the wrong foods. The acidity allows the yeast to thrive.