Just about 4 YO Tribe in october - Page 8

[MamaFern]

i think that all kids need to run wild and experience the world..

speaking of running wild..

we were walking down the street in west vancouver (the super expensive yuppy/rich old fart part of town) and elwynn was running ahead singing and just enjoying the world around him..i was holding ngaio in my arms and a bag of new yarn that i had just bought from the most amazing yarn shop.. and chatting with timothy.. the leaves were falling all around and it was just a beautiful crisp autumn day and we were all pretty blissed out.. then all of a sudden this old man came running out of a coffee shop yelling at us. i was stuunned. i didnt even know what he was saying at first..then he yelled it again.. i cant even remember exactly what he said but basically "ARE YOU THE MOTHER? ARE YOU THE FATHER? HOW DARE YOU LETYOUR CHILD RUN AROUND LIKE THAT! HE'S GOING TO RUN INTO TRAFFIC AND GET KILLED!" and he was not talking he was bellowing this. everyone was staring at us and we were just dumbfounded.. i shook my head and said something like " its none of your busines what we are doing and my child wouldnt ever run into the street" but the guy wasnt listening.. he just kept saying weird stuff about elwynn running into traffic.. now.. the sidewalks in west van are about 3 normal sidewalks wide.. im talking a roadway in most parts of the world.. and there was a wall of cars and elwynn is sooooo safetly oriented its not even funny... "think safe" is his motto so i just couldnt swollow this guys blatant disrespect. i mean.. i understand how he could have been concerned( but the way he approached the situation was so uncalled for. it left me shaking.. timothy turned around and said "fuck off dude" after i had tried to talk to him and we walked away..the guy was still yelling!..elwynn looked at us both like "what the hell was that about.. im not stupid!" but kept on his merry way...but our perfect day was shattered..well sort of anyways.. i was trying to figure out if this man would have done the same to some super posh looking young parents or if it was because we are pierced and patched and US..

so.. that taught me that a lot of people think kids belong on leashes.that they arent welcome to be free and childlike. and that bothers me. a lot. he was doing no wrong and neither were we and we were basically assaulted for being happy.

[DecemberSun]

Rude people suck, Fern.

The "All bundled up" picture of Ngaio on your site is just the cutest thing I have ever seen. Oh my goodness, what a cute little princess you have!!!

[tea olive]

no wonder i'm so tired. simply letting a kid run is an act of rebelliousness these days.

[majazama]

oh, god, fern. I would so tear that idiot a new one, if that was me

It's nice when people 'care', but obviously that dude was out of line.

I'm gonna PM you.

[MamaFern]

i thought about yelling back.. but ive made a decission to try to react peacefully to eveything going on in my life. it was his shit not mine and i left it at that... maybe he had a kid run into the street and get hit by a car..or saw that happen.. i dont know why he did what he did.. but still..it doesnt make it OK..

The "All bundled up" picture of Ngaio on your site is just the cutest thing I have ever seen. Oh my goodness, what a cute little princess you have!!!

thanks i think she is pretty great! im o totally madly in love with her.. its crazy. and elwynn too of course.. but he is the lick my face, fart on me kinda kid now "charming" is what i call him these days

[DecemberSun]

I have been feeling very anxious lately. The pregnancy hormones are getting to me, I think. I especially can't stand DH right now. He is so getting on my nerves. I know I don't have any patience right now, but it doesn't help that he is so lazy and annoying. (I just turned off the stereo before I came into my room and now he has it blaring again with music...) Grrr... :

I have to take Fern's advice and (try to) act peacefully to everything that comes along. I just have a fuck it attitude right about now. Sorry to bring it here.

Not much to "report". Crystal and Kaylee are sick, beginning our long crappy winter cold season of back-to-back viruses. Fun fun! Julianna started having visits again with her Grandma (after two months of no-shows), and she tells me she loves me every two seconds. I swear if I didn't have Crystal and Kaylee to take care of I'd probably take Zach and Julianna and run to Canada or Mexico so I could keep her forever!

[XmasEve]

Fern, it's my opinion that people who start yelling at strangers have spent their day looking for someone to yell at. It's not like that guy was having a cheerful, ho-hum kind of day and then the sight of Elwynn caused his day to go 180. He was in a bad mood, conciously or not trying to find things to yell at, and chose you guys.

Also, I've been thinking about this in my own life the past few days, but maybe it wasn't that big a deal. Things roll off dc's shoulders that would put me in a funk for a week. Most of that is because she's just too innocent to understand it. But the rest of that is because she doesn't put it on herself. Your questioning if he yelled at you because it was YOU, patched and pierced and all, is what ruined your day. Elwynn shrugged it off because he knew it was nothing he did, he knew there was nothing about himself to be attacked. If we could all just be so secure in ourselves! Even if the crazy guy thought you deserved to be yelled at because you look different, he's wrong. You don't deserve to be yelled at, and you should know that, and not spend a second of your day wondering if *he* thought you deserved it.

[majazama]

peaceful.... wish I had thought of that.

[MamaFern]

Originally Posted by XmasEve

Fern, it's my opinion that people who start yelling at strangers have spent their day looking for someone to yell at. It's not like that guy was having a cheerful, ho-hum kind of day and then the sight of Elwynn caused his day to go 180. He was in a bad mood, conciously or not trying to find things to yell at, and chose you guys.

Also, I've been thinking about this in my own life the past few days, but maybe it wasn't that big a deal. Things roll off dc's shoulders that would put me in a funk for a week. Most of that is because she's just too innocent to understand it. But the rest of that is because she doesn't put it on herself. Your questioning if he yelled at you because it was YOU, patched and pierced and all, is what ruined your day. Elwynn shrugged it off because he knew it was nothing he did, he knew there was nothing about himself to be attacked. If we could all just be so secure in ourselves! Even if the crazy guy thought you deserved to be yelled at because you look different, he's wrong. You don't deserve to be yelled at, and you should know that, and not spend a second of your day wondering if *he* thought you deserved it.

[majazama]

But, to ignore the dude, isn't going to help. You have to be assertive in life. Peacefully assertive.

When I said "tear him a new one", I just meant replying to his attitude with an attitude of your own. he wouldn't expect that, and maybe it would make him look at himself.. I wouldn't be able, personally, to let someone scream at me like that. I'd want to protect my kids, and myself.

I have had experiences like that before, and it wasn't fun. it can sure screw up your day

Like when we go for walks, and the dogs scare us, or bark at us, I scare them back, because they startled us. Those dogs are just mean sometimes. they may be protecting, but the feirceness makes me get mad.

I'm working on maintaining my equanimity.

[MamaFern]

Originally Posted by majazama

whats so funny? :



my sweet baby girl is sick.. its so sad. she has been extremely healthy (elwynn too) but she started sniffling a few days ago and that turned to green snot and a fever and now a cough.. she is so clingy and wants to nurse non stop..not easy! but there are good things to come of it like........................... shes asleep now for a few minutes anyways.

this weekend has been full of fun stuff.. ive been trying to really do the cool exciting halloween activities with elwynn because he is soo into the whole thing (not by my doing either) he has been batman now for about 3 weeks.. i secretly hope that he will go away after halloween because i miss my elwynn! we went to a halloween party at our UU church and then a "great pumpkin patch" thing at a local preschool where the kids had a pumpkin hunt and a bunch of other exciting stuff outside in the beautiful fallness. i think the best part was watching all of the kids try to break open this awsome pinaita with a plastic baseball bat.. i swear all of the parents were peeing their pants laughing (or trying not to laugh) at them. it was too cute. the woman in charge had to practically get hit every time trying to get the bat away from over excited kids (2 hits.. come on!@)

we carved pumpkins tonight and tomorow elwynn best friend is coming to trick-or-treat (and im going to let him eat candy ::)

i hope you all have a lovely day whetever you do or do not eat and or celebrate!

[majazama]

We are going to go trick or treating too. All the locals go to the community hall (across the street), and bring their candy to give away (cause everyone lives so far apart, country) there will be a bonfire, and hot choco, and hot dogs. I don't think we'll do the hot dogs, but the rest sounds like fun. Haeven is going to be a princess, of course. samaya will be a giraffe.

we will eat our candy as well

[Mona]

some how K still is somewhat sheltered from main stream halloween. She knows all about it, but somehow she is removed from it. I don't even know what we'll do tonight- i think it depends on how awake she is. (she woke up for awhile at 2am and then woke up for good at 6) so she might be pretty beat today. We also see a cranial sacral specialist, so that can always open things up. we've been going to local halloween festtivies over the past couple weeks- hay rides,pumpkin patches, ect and so on. We were out of town last weekend so missed some cool stuff. i guess i am just not a big holiday person. Its not that i don't think that holidays are cool, but society has to fuck stuff up and sensationalize everything so much that i guess it makes me turn away from that and just keep things simple and in their origins.
Anyway, the "plan" is to do what we've been doing the past few years- dress up and give our candy to kids who come to our door. maybe next year we'll do the door to door thing, or have gotten in w/ the cool unschooling families and go to a samhain party.

i'm actually too ...... whats the word... just beat, to do much of a ritual tonight/today for samhain. i am a bad pagan.
maybe we'll do a simple circle later.

[abranger]

we do halloween big here. our neighborhood closes streets and kids from around the city come for the parade. we usually have a potluck party outside in our yard so kids can eat real food them we march up to the parade. GA can't really eat the candy anyway since she is allergic to dairy and red dye #40 but she likes to collect it anyway.

[**guest**]

We'll be going trick or treating if ds is feeling ok. Most of the candy that he gets will just be given out to the kids that come to our door. heh heh. Recycle.

I did buy single serving bags of animal cookies and didn't realize that they were iced/frosted. I was going to give those out but.... Ds had a trial packet and threw up everywhere. So, I won't be giving those out in case there is something wrong with them. That was my last $4 and now I can't buy any candy to give out. Doh

[Mona]

liz- urgh on the puking. We were on our way back fron cincy and K totally let loose about 5 pounds of food all over herslef and the carseat. It was quite a sight. She continues to be boggled by the things that her body does. hell, me too. :P

fern-forgot to say sorry you had that shitty experience. it sounds like in the long run it actually served you, so that is good. plus, i have to add: you rock!!!! oh, and i hope your munchkin feels better soon. hugs

[**guest**]

I wish ds would barf in a bowl. I mean, ok...I'm not going to make him run to the bathroom but can't he barf into the bowl that is right in front of him? No, he has to turn away from it and vomit all over the carpet instead. Joy. And then I move him to the kitchen (no carpet) and then he barfs all over himself. Ack.

[goddessjulia]

Originally Posted by DecemberSun

I have been feeling very anxious lately. The pregnancy hormones are getting to me, I think. I especially can't stand DH right now. He is so getting on my nerves. I know I don't have any patience right now, but it doesn't help that he is so lazy and annoying.

I'm glad I'm not the only one! my fuse has been really short with dh lately. in fact, I just yelled at him for not wiping ds's butt enough : I 've been surprised because in the past my hormones really blissed me out, but not this time! :

[majazama]

Hey, goddessjulia, just wanted to say that it's nice to see a new face here! I love your goddess username.:

[DecemberSun]

I spent two entire days with my DH dredding his *long* hair (I will put a pic on the yahoo group soon), so after that I was ready for a break from him, lol. I am feeling better now. I am fighting off this cold that the kids have, so I think that has a lot to do with my bitchiness. It doesn't excuse DH's laziness, but at least I have a "reason" to have an attitude, right? :P

We spent Halloween Day carving our pumpkins, and they all turned out really awesome. Then we roasted the pumpkin seeds. We went trick-or-treating in the closest neighborhood to our house. Went up two streets and that was it. Once the kids' buckets got heavy they were ready to go home, which was fine with me! J and Z were afraid of all the scary-masked folks, so that was kind of rough for them. Z was Sherrif Woody from Toy Story, J was a princess of some sort (she was going to be a ballerina but the tutu was too itchy, then she was going to be a unicorn but she didn't like wearing the hood of the costume, so we just put on a frilly pink dress and called it a day , C was a cat, and K wore a Renaissance-type dress. DH wore his camoflouged hunting outfit (he does NOT hunt, he wears it for paint ball-ing ) and I was Mother Earth with a flowing patchwork dress and a crown of ivy and berries.