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post #21 of 115
My daughter goes to a parochial school. And, by and large I'm happy with it..I'm not a member of their church (I do attend another church)..but it hasn't caused any problems...but something happened last month that I wasn't happy about and then last week another thing. I felt both things were developmentally very off for 1st graders. (I'm not sure if it's the school or the teacher, but I intend to find out) Last month..they discussed graphically the events of 9-11. I thought I better find out ahead if they do anything else like that...well I've waited too late because last week they had a service project to help single pregnant women who need help. I'm fine with that too...I"m not fine with how it was presented. My daughter said "it was to help women who decided not to kill their baby!" Geez! We have only just discussed how babies are made. I truly feel if they want to talk about this to such young children they should have told the parents first. What do you ladies think? I asked another parent in carpool who is a member of the church and they were upset too that the parents hadn't been told. I really feel like this is something that should be left to 5th maybe 6th grade? I'm not sure..I just really wasn't ready to talk about this anytime soon.
post #22 of 115
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Originally Posted by Mommabelle View Post
What do you ladies think?

Well, I think the important thing is that you aren't comfortable with it (I'd personally be LIVID and on the phone with school administration! Presenting either side of this highly sensitive issue is completely inappropriate, IMO-especially to first graders!)
post #23 of 115
My dd's teacher talked about 9-11 too and I was shocked and very surprised, it just isn't something *I* felt she was ready for.

As for the talk of women killing their babies, I would be LIVID. I am a pro-life activist and my own 6 year old doesn't know that kind of thing about it. I do not feel my kids are ready for that kind of thing. I have taught them about fetal development and helping women with babies/children who need help, but the "killing" part would have been way too early for my dd, and now that you have mentioned it, I had best make sure that Sister will not be addressing that.

I know there is great value in praying for people affected by 9-11, women in crisis pregnancies, etc., I just think there is a point of TMI and they are crossing it by talking to 6 year olds about it, IMNSHO.

Why do schools in general want to make our 6 year olds into little adults?:
post #24 of 115
Thanks for your responses. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me. I actually am pretty darn mad...if I told you what they presented to the middle school kids you would not believe it..but anyway. Not only am I mad..I'm very upset that parents were not told about this...it infuriates me...this is definetly crossing parenting boundaries. Not only did they not tell us beforehand they waited until this mornings emailed newsletter to tell us aobut it..which is 4 school days past the time it happened. I'm getting my facts together...I want to be calm and in control before I go talk to someone. I may not be able to change what they teach but I will have the option in the future to keep my kids home from school. This school has been very reasonable in many ways...arghhh!
post #25 of 115
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Thanks for your responses. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me. I actually am pretty darn mad...if I told you what they presented to the middle school kids you would not believe it..but anyway. Not only am I mad..I'm very upset that parents were not told about this...it infuriates me...this is definetly crossing parenting boundaries. Not only did they not tell us beforehand they waited until this mornings emailed newsletter to tell us aobut it..which is 4 school days past the time it happened. I'm getting my facts together...I want to be calm and in control before I go talk to someone. I may not be able to change what they teach but I will have the option in the future to keep my kids home from school. This school has been very reasonable in many ways...arghhh!
good luck-I'm interested to hear what they have to say. Peppermint-I don't understand it either (the need to make them into little adults.) They didn't talk about 9/11 in my daughter's school, but they did read Faithful Elephants that day, which really made me . It was like "ok, we didn't talk about this really tough event, but let's read an upsetting story instead!"
post #26 of 115
It isn't just you Mammabelle, I'd be livid too. My son was traumatized by being told about Martin Luther King being shot and why (it was totally beyond his understanding why). For ages afterwards he was asking me why "they" shot "King Luther". I can't imagine what hearing about 9-11 would have done to him. As for "killing babies, that is totally inappropriate IMO.
post #27 of 115
Hi all, well yesterday we went to a meeting at the school for my dd's IEP for speech articulation. It has been decided that she will be re-tested in Dec. and will be dismissed from the program . The speech teacher said she has met all the goals that have been set and her speech now will improve as she gets older. Her classroom teacher said she was doing well also and said she was a joy to have in class (got an A+ on her first spelling test ).
post #28 of 115
Good news 1xMom!!!
post #29 of 115
That's great news!
post #30 of 115
Congrats 1x mom (and dd, of course) Awesome!
post #31 of 115
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I need to talk to dd about tolerance-there's a girl in her class who I think is sweet, but I've noticed my dd isn't very friendly toward her. After spending a little more time around them, I see some of the girl's mannerisms get on dd's nerves (the other girl always comments when dd's clothing is "messed up" after playing .) It's this girl's "thing"-her clothes are very impt to her, and it's just her way. I'd like for dd to be a little more accepting of other people's quirks (she certainly has her own!)

I volunteered in class yesterday, and although I really enjoy it, I am always struck by the level of chaos and lately, the disrespectful behavior of some of the kids. Do people not bother to teach their kids to be nice to each other? Yesterday a boy yanked a basketball out of dd's hands, and one of her boy friends went and retrieved it for her. The first boy ran after him, pushed him down, and took the ball away again. : And I just hate hearing what some of them say to each other.
post #32 of 115
Does anyone have any suggestions about teaching dd to not take things personally? She has one 'friend' at school (they have played together since they were babies) that she often complains about. It seems this other girl is always saying something 'mean' to dd, like 'You can only punch this slow' (demonstrates) or that something dd likes is for 'babies'. Usually they are completely meaningless (or made up) things that this girl comes out with for some reason & dd gets upset about.
I try to tell her that it's not true or it just doesn't matter or just not to sit with her (but I think her desk is right next to dd's), but I think the fact that this girl keeps saying things is really bothering her.
I keep meaning to mention it to her teacher, but forget when I get to the classroom running late & trying to keep ds out of the toys & books while I get dd settled in. Maybe tomorrow.
post #33 of 115
I had a conference with DD teacher today. All is well in academics...she's a daydreamer...so am I! Nothing new there. I did ask about the Life projects from last week and the teacher knew absolutly nothing about it. The religion teacher may have said something...so that's the next place to look...I'm actually getting a feeling it came from the playground...although the religion teacher is very very orthodox and a little bizarre so will check that out just in case.
mata..it is crazy what kids say to each other. I'm really shocked sometimes. Sometimes it's just the kids and sometimes it comes from home. Our best friends are wonderful parents but they really talk bad to each other sometimes (it stems from their own backgrounds in dysfunctional families) and their child definetly picks it up.
mama2nicola..I have been working on the same thing with my DD. It is getting better. I keep telling her other people can say things and we can't make them stop sometimes, but you believe what you believe and don't worry about what others say. I hope over time this sticks. I would love to hear other solutions. I was sensitive as a kid too...it's ridiculous really...I loved veggies as a kid but would absolutly not eat them at school because the other kids would make fun. Is that nuts or what!
post #34 of 115
mata, my daughter is like that and she is only four! I'm scared to think how she will be when she gets older, i don't know why, perhaps it's girls tend to have more acute social sensibilities??
I also have to pretty much echo what mamabelle said, I remember being extremely sensitive as a child, and also am sometimes shocked by what other kids say. I have not heard my children say anything mean or rude, but I have seen other kids do that. I wonder if it is a combination of home environment and school stress or something?
post #35 of 115
It is appalling sometimes the things kids say to each other. I really wonder sometimes. My dd is pretty sensitive but she is starting to toughen up a little bit. The other day she told me one of her friends told her she wears skirts/dresses too much. MY initial response to the girl would be "don't worry about it." - but then I have to think for a second and bring the mother out in me and give her a nicer thing to say "I like wearing skirts or something", but sometimes it can be hard.
post #36 of 115
What does "sloppy copy write" mean? My daughter has to do "research" on something tonight and the teacher said to...sloppy copy write it????? She is in 1st grade!!!
post #37 of 115
Sloppy Copy is her first draft, where she doesn't need to worry about spelling/grammar and can make changes right on the page, etc. HTH!
post #38 of 115
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Sloppy Copy is her first draft, where she doesn't need to worry about spelling/grammar and can make changes right on the page, etc. HTH!
Isn't that what they do in grade 1??

On a more serious note - I got a letter from the school today that dd is going to be receiving 'additional learning assistance support'.

"At certain times during their school career many students may need help to acquire, practice and extend necessary skills, in order to gain greater confidence in their own learning. This assistance may be in the areas of Language Arts (reading, wrting, speaking), Mathematics or Social Skills. Students may receive additional support to encourage improvement in one, or several areas of skill development.

Support may be given either in class during the regular lessons, individually or sometimes with a small group in another area of the school."

They don't even say what area she is needing help in! Needless to say, I checked off the option at the bottom: 'I would like to discuss the support being given to my child in greater detail.'

This is the first I've heard that she's having any problems :. I know she is quite resistant to 'learning' anything she doesn't feel a need to or anything she finds in the least bit hard, so maybe that's all it is.

I am trying to be positive about this & told dd that it was great that she was going to be working with Mrs. G, but she doesn't know what it's for either. It really sucks to get this after school & have to wonder about it all night until I can talk to someone tomorrow .
post #39 of 115
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just a little bump

how is everyone doing? mama2nicola-were you able to speak to someone and get more specifics?

mommabelle-I had that thought too (about her hearing it from another child) it just seemed so outrageous that a teacher would say that!

DD is excited to be working on her first book report. She chose an Eloise book (she thinks Eloise is too prissy, but chose it for the NYC locale and she's obsessed with the Plaza Hotel for some reason) and she's learning about characters, plots, sequence, etc. We went out for materials to make a puppet to go along with her project, which should be lots of fun. They're also working on making books in class with illustrations for each page. I was so impressed with the drawings I saw today! What kind of things are the other kids here doing?
post #40 of 115
Toby is also making (writing and illustrating) books in class. His first one was an intense story about a woman who didn't like to get out of bed so was always late for work, in the end she got fired but she didn't care because she didn't like work anyway! Heaven knows where he got that story line from. I don't work and DH owns the company he works for and never has to get up early, unless he wants too! I asked him where he got the idea and he said he just made it up. :

I got to sub at the school on Monday because one of his teachers took the day off to move. It was fun. We did math -- they made dot patterns with 10 dots and looked at the different ways they could discover ways to make 10, ie "there are two rows of 4 dots , and how many in the middle?" It was an exercise in patterns and discovering the different ways to add up to 10. It was any easy exercise for all the kids, except one didn't get it and pasted 13 dots on her page. I also got some reading with the kids, which I always enjoy. I must say, I don't know how teachers do it! It was fun, but I am so glad I don't have to do it everyday. Homeschooling one child is enough for me!
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