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post #21 of 34
I don't know how I feel about ultrasounds. I don't want to do any unnecessary ones for sure. I agree with PP. The stress and anxiety I am going through right now worrying about this pregnancy can't be good. There is a ton of info on the effects of stress on pregnancy. After losing 2 pregnancies and to be pregnant again in less than a year I am a ball of nerves. For me, a quick transvag. scan will be hugely reassuring.

That said, I am going to have on done today or tomorrow hopefully. My NP wanted me to have one done before we went to the beach when I was 5 weeks and 2 days. I refused that one because I knew we probably wouldn't see the heartbeat. I am 6 weeks and 3 or 4 days right now so we should be able to see something.
post #22 of 34
Can someone tell me what a transvaginal u/s is like? I hate not knowing what to expect. Can someone walk me through what will happen?
post #23 of 34
transvag u/s....ah...the fun!

It's similar to a pelvic exam...I joked with dh that it was a little like a cross between an alien probe and something you'd see in an "adult toy" catalog. Basically the u/s wand is a small tube with a rounded end. It's inserted vaginally and twisted around a bit to check out different areas. It's not comfortable (well, it wasn't for me) but it's certainly no worse than a pelvic exam, and some mamas hardly notice it at all.

I found a picture at http://fmh.org/images/transvag-pr.jpg if that helps...

Oh, and when I had mine done last time the process was
-go to u/s room
-remove pants/put on "elegant" gown
-get up on exam table
-the (female)technican came in and inserted the wand
-technician sat sort of behind a privacy screen and fiddled with the monitors
-technician showed me the beating heart and said the bleeding wasn't a mc yet.

I'm hoping to get another early u/s this time round if the bleeding doesn't stop...I'll ask my doctor today.
post #24 of 34
Becky,

A transvag. u/s is nothing to worry about. When I had one, I was asked to undress from the waist down while the sonographer left the room and given a paper covering. She came back in and pulled out a little wand-like thing, which was just a bit wider and longer than a tampon and was covered with a condom-y thing and some lubicant. She handed it to me and I inserted it myself, like a tampon. It was not uncomfortable at all. Once inserted, the sonographer, took hold of it, I laid back on the table with feet in stirrups, and she moved it about to get measurements (that's when she discovered that there wasn't anything in my uterus, and I was very sad and in shock so I can't remember too much more). I think it lasted for about 3-5 minutes total. But, for yours, you'll be able to see a sac and perhaps even an embryo and a heartbeat, depending on how far along you are.

It's pretty easy, and since you insert the wanding device yourself, it's very discreet and not painful at all. Feel free to ask if you have other questions about it. I hope you see a heartbeat! Very exciting. By the way, unlike an abdominal u/s, you don't need a full bladder. They might ask you to pee beforehand.

-Iris
post #25 of 34
The doctor's office I used didn't allow "self insertion" of the wand...not sure why. So maybe ask your doctor if that's an option? And yeah, being able to go in with an empty bladder is heavenly!
post #26 of 34
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I subscribe to mothering but my memory is working. Do you know what issue/month it was? Thanks Jillian!
I'll post it when I get home in a few hours I'll copy some links from a doula friend too if you're interested in that.

Doula friend links:

Even the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the American Academy of Family Physicians advised against routine screening unless there is medical justification.
They do not recommend routine use of ultrasounds, dopplers, or external fetal monitoring during the course of healthy, low risk pregnancies.
Inventors never had routine use in mind for any of these devices in healthy, normal pregnancies.

Routine ultrasound use is frequently described as such:

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Routine third-trimester ultrasound examination of the fetus is not recommended. There is insufficient evidence to recommend for or against routine ultrasound examination in the second trimester in low-risk pregnant women.


From the Center for Unhindered Living here is 'The Dangers of Prenatal Ultrasound' (http://www.unhinderedliving.com/pultra.html). I love the following analogy (studies [http://www.mayo.edu/ultrasound/news/] support this by showing that the sound of ultrasound pulses are as loud to your fetus as a speeding subway train):

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Have you seen a woman with an extremely high voice break a glass by singing an extremely high pitched note? That is an example of what just ONE relatively slow sound wave can do. Ultrasound technology is based upon ultra high-frequency sound waves, which bombard the child in the womb at an extremely high rate of speed. If one slow sound wave from a woman's voice can break a glass, what can super high frequency sound waves do to your child? Ultrasound waves in laboratory experiments have been known to damage chromosomes, produce internal cellular heat which damages cells, retard the normal development of cells, and many other phenomenon.



The American Pregnancy Association (http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pre...ltrasound.html) states:

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Because ultrasound should only be used when medically indicated, many healthy pregnancies will not require ultrasound.

The long term effects of repeated ultrasound exposures on the fetus are not fully known. It is recommended that ultrasound only be used if medically indicated.

Ultrasounds are only necessary if there is a medical concern...
...For women with an uncomplicated pregnancy, an ultrasound is not a necessary part of prenatal care.

Here's an article by Sarah Buckley ('Ultrasound Scans: Cause for Concern') about the use of ultrasounds, which includes a form that pregnant women undergoing ultrasound can ask their carers to fill out http://www.icpa4kids.org/research/ar...ound_Scans.htm

Here's a Midwifery Today article written by Beverley Lawrence Beech - the author of the 'Ultrasound? Unsound' booklet ('Ultrasound: Weighing the Propaganda Against the Facts'). http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/ultrasound.asp

Educate Yourself articles ('Ultrasound Scans Linked to Brain Damage in Babies', 'Ultrasound Scans May Harm Unborn Babies', and 'A Warning From Dr. John Christopher on Potential Danger of Ultrasound Scanning'). http://educate-yourself.org/cn/2001/...e19dec01.shtml
post #27 of 34
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There was an article on the risks of u/s in Mothering a while back (I can probably dig through my back issues and give you the date and issue # if you want). A good friend of mine has been doing research on early u/s's and links to speech and motor delays. ...

It seems that every time I went in for a u/s there was something wrong and I needed another one.

Well, for what it's worth, I had one around 14 weeks (my midwife couldn't find heartbeat with doppler), one at 20 weeks, and more than I can count (one at every visit at least) in my third trimester, because DD was breech. I also had what basically boiled down to ultrasound "monitoring", when I decided to try an external version (unsuccessful), but my point is that DD was born completely healthy, and no motor or speech delays to report.

I didn't read the article, so what do they consider "early ultrasounds"?

Regardless, I agree with you... I don't want to be scared into having one at every visit like I was last pregnancy. I'll play it by ear.
post #28 of 34
Thank you Jilian!!!
post #29 of 34
Cool info...and I agree that ultrasound is over used in our medicalized society.

However, I have a problem with the "broken glass" analogy they use. Breaking glass using the human voice is a tricky proposition (did anyone see that MythBusters?) and has to do with finding the resonant frequency of the glass. Each glass is different, so the "tone" needed to shatter it is different as well. Yes, it can be done...and I've even seen it done...but I still don't think it's a good analogy for the message the author is trying to convey.



But then, I have a low threshold for "fuzzy science" even when I agree with the ultimate message!

Thanks for finding the info though...it's good to hacve, and good to remember that not all "benign" interventions are totally benign.
post #30 of 34
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I subscribe to mothering but my memory is working. Do you know what issue/month it was?
It is issue #102 (Sept-Oct 2000)
post #31 of 34
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It is issue #102 (Sept-Oct 2000)
That is before I subscribed...maybe I can search for it! Thanks again!
post #32 of 34
You can find Mothering articles online through the "Find Article" page...a google search should pull it up.
post #33 of 34
i did not have any u/s with dd, to me it is no guarentee everything will be okay. I will trust my body and wait until i can feel the baby move. I don't really want a doppler either. I eventually let the midwife do one when i was in labour with dd as i did not want to come out the water when i was in labour
post #34 of 34
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You can find Mothering articles online through the "Find Article" page...a google search should pull it up.
Yup! That is what I did. I read those articles last night!
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