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How long does a baby need milk/formula?

post #1 of 41
Thread Starter 
I can't seem to find a straight answer for this anywhere. If I have run out of breast milk, how old does a baby need to be before they can switch entirely to regular food?

O.k. I think I found an answer. One year. The question is, then, how much formula does she absolutely need to have.
post #2 of 41
You might post in the breastfeeding challenges forum way down on the page if you're worried about running out of milk.
post #3 of 41
We weaned at 18 mos and cow's milk still didn't agree with her, so we did no milk or formula at all until 2 yo when cow's milk suddenly became the greatest thing ever in her world.
post #4 of 41
I think in most cases formula after 12 months is a waste of money. I wouldn't buy "follow up" formulas unless there is a medical indication to do so. We switched to goat milk with Paddy at 12 months.
post #5 of 41
How old is your baby? A baby's main source of nutrition prior to his first birthday should be breastmilk or formula. This IS your baby's food...don't view it as 'how much does he absolutely have to have.'
post #6 of 41
Thread Starter 
The problem is that all of the formula I have tried has given her terrible constipation. There are a couple others that people have recommended that I have to try to locate. Meanwhile though, I don't know how much she is missing out on. Should she be having three bottles a day? I am giving her as much ffood as I can to make up for lost milk, but she still needs more.

She suffers when I give her formula, so I want to give her the minimum possible. It has nothing to do with cost.
post #7 of 41
How old is your baby? 3 bottles sounds reasonable-even good, unless she is really suffering with constipation.
post #8 of 41
How old is the baby? Can you get raw goat milk or raw cow milk in your area? Have you tried oatmeal and fenugreek for your milk supply?
post #9 of 41
Thread Starter 
She is almost 10 months. I am pregnant, so can't take any herbs. I still have a little milk, but know I will soon run out. I am just trying to figure out if I can get away with switching her to solids, and only giving her a little formula. I have only been giving her about 5 oz. a day, since I still have milk. I mix it in with her food. Formula smells disgusting, and she won't drink it unless I disguise it.
post #10 of 41
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Originally Posted by wirewendy View Post
She is almost 10 months. I am pregnant, so can't take any herbs. I still have a little milk, but know I will soon run out. I am just trying to figure out if I can get away with switching her to solids, and only giving her a little formula. I have only been giving her about 5 oz. a day, since I still have milk. I mix it in with her food. Formula smells disgusting, and she won't drink it unless I disguise it.
I definately wouldn't use the formula -- it is a highly processed dead food. I would try to find raw goat or cow milk, maybe at health food stores or local farm(or check out www.realmilk.com). Feed her high omega 3 free range egg yolks often-- easy to mix a raw yolk into certain foods like mashed potatoes or cooked brown rice etc. The yolks as well as red meats are good for iron content and essential fatty acids.

Good luck with this, mama..you know, being pregnant and nursing and having had a baby just 10 months ago; you would also benefit from raw milk, yolks, fish, red meat etc...or if you're veg then milk, yolks, hemp oil etc.
post #11 of 41
I think many recommend some sort of milk for up until 2 yo at least. They need a lot of fats for brain development. I'd look into how to balance that out, if you can't give cow or goat milk.
post #12 of 41
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Originally Posted by wirewendy View Post
She is almost 10 months. I am pregnant, so can't take any herbs. I still have a little milk, but know I will soon run out. I am just trying to figure out if I can get away with switching her to solids, and only giving her a little formula. I have only been giving her about 5 oz. a day, since I still have milk. I mix it in with her food. Formula smells disgusting, and she won't drink it unless I disguise it.
I would nix the formula and prepare a goat's milk formula instead--hopefully your grocery or health food store carries it (ours does). In 2 months you can switch to straight goat's milk. I don't know enough about formula feeding to know if you could just go ahead with straight goat's milk now since your baby is older and eating solids, but maybe someone else does? My baby is 10 months, too, and I can't pump to save my life--if I ever have an emergency and need to be separated, I plan on using goat's milk for ds if it's necessary.
post #13 of 41
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Originally Posted by twins10705 View Post
I definately wouldn't use the formula -- it is a highly processed dead food. I would try to find raw goat or cow milk, maybe at health food stores or local farm(or check out www.realmilk.com). Feed her high omega 3 free range egg yolks often-- easy to mix a raw yolk into certain foods like mashed potatoes or cooked brown rice etc. The yolks as well as red meats are good for iron content and essential fatty acids.

Good luck with this, mama..you know, being pregnant and nursing and having had a baby just 10 months ago; you would also benefit from raw milk, yolks, fish, red meat etc...or if you're veg then milk, yolks, hemp oil etc.
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Originally Posted by paquerette View Post
I think many recommend some sort of milk for up until 2 yo at least. They need a lot of fats for brain development. I'd look into how to balance that out, if you can't give cow or goat milk.
IMO 2 years for some sort of milk is minimum. Three to four years is very beneficial. Try to keep nursing her if you can because she will be able to get tons of milk once the new baby comes.
post #14 of 41
If you are using formula with iron, that could be causing her constipation. Try one without iron and see if that helps. I also thought they needed some type of "fatty" milk until two years old for brain development. Have you asked your doctor?
post #15 of 41
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Originally Posted by wirewendy View Post
She is almost 10 months. I am pregnant, so can't take any herbs. I still have a little milk, but know I will soon run out. I am just trying to figure out if I can get away with switching her to solids, and only giving her a little formula. I have only been giving her about 5 oz. a day, since I still have milk. I mix it in with her food. Formula smells disgusting, and she won't drink it unless I disguise it.
when you say you are mixing it in with her food, do you mean you are mixing straight powder in with her food or that you are mixing properly prepared formula in? if you are just mixing in the powder or a concentrated version, that is probobly causing the constipation.
post #16 of 41
I have to agree with "keep nursing her!" Even when there's no milk, keep nursing her if she'll stick with it. How long do you have to go? your colostrum will probably start coming in weeks before the birth. And colostrum is great stuff! In addition to being nutritious and full of antibodies, it cures constipation. And once your other baby is born, you can nurse them both. Tandem nursing has been a great experience for me.

I dunno squat about formula, but I'd probably supplement with goat's milk if necessary.
post #17 of 41
I also want to offer you a hug because when I got preg unexpectedly when dd was 16 mos and my milk dried up, just the whole deal--pregnant, toddler, etc--was overwhelming and difficult. So just a hug for that.

I did decide to wean because no milk combined with sensitive first tri nipples was excruciating for me. So I am hearin' ya. I vote for goat's milk formula.
post #18 of 41
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Originally Posted by Lula's Mom View Post
And colostrum is great stuff! In addition to being nutritious and full of antibodies, it cures constipation. .
Does it ever! I've tandemned both of my older girls and when my colostrum came in around 25 weeks they had two weeks of lots of mushy poop.
post #19 of 41
Our ped said I couls suppliment dd with whole cows milk when she was around11m, I was still bf and pumping...just didn't pump enough for what I thought she needed...but then her ped educated me when she was about 18m old.....said she did not need 5 8oz cups of cows milk a day
I would try 1/2 ebm and 1/2 cows milk if possible
post #20 of 41
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Originally Posted by twins10705 View Post
I definately wouldn't use the formula -- it is a highly processed dead food. I would try to find raw goat or cow milk, maybe at health food stores or local farm(or check out www.realmilk.com). Feed her high omega 3 free range egg yolks often-- easy to mix a raw yolk into certain foods like mashed potatoes or cooked brown rice etc. The yolks as well as red meats are good for iron content and essential fatty acids.

Good luck with this, mama..you know, being pregnant and nursing and having had a baby just 10 months ago; you would also benefit from raw milk, yolks, fish, red meat etc...or if you're veg then milk, yolks, hemp oil etc.
Well, if you want your baby to get e. coli or other germs, you could do this. Or samonella from the raw egg yolks. NOT SAFE!

Powedered, milk-based formula is said, by the WHO (an organization extremely supportive of breastfeeding), to be the safest and best alternative. Saying it is "dead" doesn't mean anything except that it's sterilized. I would never, ever give raw milk or other raw animal products to a baby. A grown child would be different. Babies have very different needs than what is in plain cow's or goat's milk, raw or not, and formula does what it can to match those needs (the right ratios of micronutrients, nucleotides, and at least one form of omega-3 supplimentation.)

I think COOKED omega-3, organic egg yolks are a great idea. Formula is not the end of the world. If one must suppliment, it is the best and safest alternative other than banked human milk, of course. I'd suggest organic formula made with 100% lactose (i.e. yes to the walmart parents choice brand, NO to the similac brand) if your child can tolerate it, or a predigested formula (gentleease, goodstart) if she can't, and if all else fails, a hypoallergenic formula (Nutrimagen, alimentum), but those have some other bad ingredients in them and taste HORRIBLE, so only use if needed

Let's not get confused between the evilness that is formula company marketing (I.e. VERY VERY EVIL) and the actual formula itself (only used when bm isn't availble, but has saved more than one baby, including mine, when my boobs wouldn't work.) Thank god we have formula to suppliment with, as opposed to corn sugar water like they used to use, or plain cow's milk, which is terrible and harmful for babies.
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