did you get scared?

[momof2princesses]

as your children gpt older (if you did not vax) . I am not vaxing my 2 (3 to and 9 months) But I find that as my 3 yo gets older I become more concerned....is this normal?

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Did I get scared of what?

The only thing I got scared of was moron doctors.

The other irritant was do-gooder provax parents who insisted I should be charged with attempted murder.

Apart from those two irritants, I don't recall much in the way of fear.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Is it the diseases that scare you? If so, then know all possible treatments, what the host susceptibilities are, and the whole deal....

It could be you have gaps in your knowledge that is leaving you open to fear???

Just thinking out loud

[momof2princesses]

hehe...well said! I guess I am becomming more concerned now that dd is getting out more and around more children (maybe this is a sign I should not be involved in so much: ) like at church, library programs, dance class.....am i putting her at risk?

[Spy]

Originally Posted by momof2princesses

am i putting her at risk?

No. Why would you be? She was created to grow up being around other people and exposed to all sorts of things and deal with it. For all we know she is probably getting immune to dosens of diseases, the names of some of which we don't even know, even as we speak! Since when normal life became a risk factor??

[tiffer23]

That's why we do vax (well, will... lol. He's yet to have any since his 2m shots). I know vaccinations aren't 100%, they aren't suppose to be. But I do like that I'm lessening his chance of getting something. We're going on a very delayed schedule (I gave in for his 2m shots, but haven't since. He's now 6.5 months and I'm going to make an appointment for him soon to get his second dose of Hib and IPV). I think they give waaaaaay too many vaccinations too young, but I do think they serve a purpose in the long run, so we'll be getting them all (or mostly all, debating Prevnar and CP early on, we might get CP in middle school, but see if he catches them in elementary).

But yes, it does worry me personally sending him to school without being vaccinated.

(I tend to give me opinions, most will dispute them I'm sure, but this is the vaccination board. When it's called anti-vax, I'll quit posting. )

[suschi]

Personally, what the vaccines do scares me far more than the potential threat of disease and/or complications.

When I watched my 4th child deteriorate after a round of vaccines, and helpless drs who had no clue what was going on, I decided no more vaccines. That was when my son was 7.5 months in Sept of 99. He is now 7.5 yrs and slowly recovering. My youngest, who just turned 4, is not vaccinated at all. He seems quite able to fight infection without his immune system being skewed via vaccine.

So the only thing I fear is what the next round of shots may have done.

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by momof2princesses

hehe...well said! I guess I am becomming more concerned now that dd is getting out more and around more children (maybe this is a sign I should not be involved in so much: ) like at church, library programs, dance class.....am i putting her at risk?

For us it's quite the opposite. As my grandchildren get older (oldest 9 yrs.) I see and know for a fact that we did the right thing. Why he is healthier than all the other kids - and he was the one that was partially vaxed.

The other two (2 and 1/2 and 7 months) we feel are much better off because of not having been vaccinated at all. The more they are exposed the stronger their immune system is going to be and the more it is able to defend them against everything.

I am more and more secure with our decision. Heck, I couldn't be more sure, there is no way.

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by tiffer23

I know vaccinations aren't 100%, they aren't suppose to be.

why not?

But I do like that I'm lessening his chance of getting something.

Not vaccine damage.

But yes, it does worry me personally sending him to school without being vaccinated.

Well, this is your decision. I would worry much more injecting my kids with known poisons. But that's just me.

[chellemarie]

I get more relaxed about the possibility of him getting a VPD because I think as he gets older, he can recover from more of them better. There are a few I'd like for him to get before puberty (mumps, chickenpox) if he's going to get them at all. But as far as the illnesses themselves, I get more confident that we can see them through with good results. (For instance, before he was a year old, any time he had a yucky cough, I worried. "EEK! It MUST be Pertussis! Ahhhh!" Now he gets a yucky cough and I run a vaporizer and up his vitamin C and maybe visit the chiro. Feeling pretty confident about it.)

I do have more anxiety about other people as he gets older, though. How much I'll have to hassle with doctors, school administration, other parents, etc. Mostly because it's annoying to stand alone in such a conservative, mainstream area. And because it's scary someone could decide I'm a bad mom and should be reported for not getting shots. But neither of those bring me as much anxiety as thinking about what the shots could do to his immune system and his quality of life.

The other thing that helps is that I can change my mind. If we decide tomorrow he needs an immunization, we can get it. Not getting a vax leaves you options. Getting the shot is final.

[mammom]

Originally Posted by tiffer23

That's why we do vax (well, will... lol. He's yet to have any since his 2m shots). I know vaccinations aren't 100%, they aren't suppose to be. But I do like that I'm lessening his chance of getting something. We're going on a very delayed schedule (I gave in for his 2m shots, but haven't since. He's now 6.5 months and I'm going to make an appointment for him soon to get his second dose of Hib and IPV). I think they give waaaaaay too many vaccinations too young, but I do think they serve a purpose in the long run, so we'll be getting them all (or mostly all, debating Prevnar and CP early on, we might get CP in middle school, but see if he catches them in elementary).

But yes, it does worry me personally sending him to school without being vaccinated.

(I tend to give me opinions, most will dispute them I'm sure, but this is the vaccination board. When it's called anti-vax, I'll quit posting. )

A good friend of mine vaxed her kids on a "very delayed schedule" and her youngest who is almost three has not spoken a word since his last DTaP, last spring. He won't make eye contact. He doesn't spin or do other "autistic" behavior, but the loss of speech and eye contact is most worrisome to her.

Oh, and she thinks that three of her four kids have been damaged in some way by the vaxes (her first two were vaxed on schedule). She has them on very specialized diets to help them.

[lyttlewon]

Sometimes I do. But then I also get scared when she hides in the coats at Walmart and won't answer when I call her. I don't think any mother likes to think about the fact that a disease can kill their child. I think where the line of thinking gets derailed is by thinking that vaccination is going to prevent disease. The CDC is beginning to admit with many vaccines don't last as long as first thought, the Pertussis vaccine is soon going to be recommended every five years.

The best thing you can do is understand what makes the immune system fight off disease, nutrition and low stress etc, and work for THAT because even if you do vaccinate they are not 100%. What would you do if your child WAS vaccinated and got sick anyway?

[~member~]

Well, if it helps any, I got my childrens titers done and they all show immunity.

My older children are dare devils....their falls and concussions worry me more than any sickness. They rarely get sick, and when they do, it lasts a few days and then they are back to running around, climbing trees, jumping off of high places...:

[tippytoes26]

hmm.. I think I'm kind of the opposite. The older my baby gets, the more relaxed I am about it. My baby is only 9mos though. I worried like crazy for the first 6 about whopping cough becaus that's when it can be really dangerous. BUT, vaccinating wouldn't have helped that fear at all because the amount of "immunity" they claim she'd get fromt he two doses between newborn and 6 months isn't enough to prevent it. Now, I worry about meningitis .. but as she gets older, I'll worry less and less because her risk of getting it falls as she gets older. apparently at 7 months there is a spike in the number of kids who get it, so when she got a high fever at 7 monhts, I was really frantic. But, again, the vaccine wouldn't have helped those fears wither for the same reasons AND, that particular vaccine has been known to CAUSE meningitis.

I think I'll always be afraid, but I feel like the older she gets, the more at ease I'll be. Like the mama before me.. right now a cold keeps me checking for a protruding soft spot but in a couple of years, it won't shake me.

[Plummeting]

I agree with tippytoes - the older DD gets, the less I worry. As she gets older, she gets stronger, so she would be better able to deal with anything that comes along. Of course, I was never the mama that worried about germs to begin with, even before we decided we weren't going to vaccinate. We had company (with children and all their germs) over the day after she was born. We had her out at a restaurant for a going away party when she was 4 days old. I just never worried about germs like that. Kids will be exposed to germs no matter how careful you are. It isn't like your house is sterile. Every time you go out, you bring germs home on your shoes, your hands, in your nose, on the purse you set down on some counter somewhere. It's unavoidable.

Originally Posted by tiffer23

I know vaccinations aren't 100%, they aren't suppose to be.

No, you've got something confused here. They are supposed to be 100%. Why would a drug company create a product that wasn't even intended to work in everyone that used it? That makes no sense. The fact that they aren't 100% effective doesn't mean they aren't supposed to be. They are supposed to be, they just don't work as well as they should.

[alegna]

No worries here. Do you think the vaccines work? If they do, most kids are vaxed, so there's almost no chance of your child catching anything. If you DON'T think they work- why would you want them for your kids?

-Angela

[jessjgh1]

The thing that I sometimes worry about is that everyone gets sick at times. I worry about my son if he is sick- that somethign else could overwhelm the system. Flu might be more of a concern to me than anything else since the chances of these vaccine preventable diseases are slim.

So what is worse, the flu vaccine, or being worn down by the flu and getting something else on top of it? BTW, FWIW, I've never had a flu vaccine and I always manage to get the flu- although mildly. And ds has never had the flu vaccine and has managed to get it (or another winter bug) even while nursing.

The thing about life that gets me sometims about vax is 'survival of the fittest'-- only I'm not sure that my son (or another children) are always at their fittest.

So are the scaremongers getting to me? Or maybe it is being part time at a nursing home.

And another personal concern of mine is the fact that I need to be so reliant and knowledgeable about health issues/dietary/supplementing because I knwo that I can't rely soley on standard medical care-- and sometimes I'm not sure I am up to that-- although I know I need to try to be on top of that regardless of my vax choices.

How much is it to have titres run?

Jessica

[jessjgh1]

Oh, btw I think I just noticed the forum has changed around since I last visited for a while. The seperate area for selective delayed is new right?

Jessica (or maybe I'm just tired)

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Yes. It's the provaccine sub-forum and this is the main vaccine forum.

[dani76]

I am less worried the older DD gets. She is 16 months. Also, the more I know, the less I fear. HTH