Originally Posted by OnTheFence
YK, I think this is almost amusing, that because people don't want to lease to people on sec8, its discrimination because they are poor. I think historically and statistically one looks at the areas that are inhabited by those in sec8 housing, and its a decison based on reality. There are families in our neighborhood that I am quite sure would qualify as "poor". However their families provided a way for them to live here. They are not looked down upon, they are just one of us, wanting to live in a good area and send their children to good schools. There are single moms who live in the smaller cottage homes, who scrape by most months, and some are on govt. assistance. They definitely are not being labeled as criminals or devients because of this.
The reason that many Section 8 housing neighborhoods are higher-crime, higher-drug use areas is NOT because Section 8 housing is there.
Its because when a landlord decides to jump through HUD's hoops to allow Section 8 tenants, its usually because they were having trouble renting their property in the first place. No one wanted to live there. So the landlord decides to try Section 8, because there's always poor people and they will always have renters that way.
Section 8 housing doesn't CAUSE bad neighborhoods. Section 8 housing is offered in bad neighborhoods because elitist peckerheads who want to "protect their neighborhoods" from the scummy low income poor people would never offer their housing to such lowlifes.
Wouldn't it be great if there were safe housing opportunities for poor people, too? Then they wouldn't have to fear for their children and their belongings and their lives because they have no where else to live but in the places no one wants to live.
Also, its true that Section 8 programs require a clean background and people in Section 8 are subjected to annual (if not more often) inspections. They actually are required to be "cleaner" and take better care of their property than the other people in the neighborhood. There are other HUD programs (Shelter Plus Care) that are similar to Section 8. The difference with these programs is that the landlord, or the sponsor, determines who lives in the Shelter Plus house. Many sponsors (I am one) choose a population to work with, such as people who are recovering from addictions, and place them in Shelter Plus housing. Yes, that population is more risky in terms of crime and drugs. But the sponsor should be on top of what is going on, and working with that family/individual.
So, in a neighborhood like OntheFence's (although I cannot imagine anyone CHOOSING to live in such a place - it reminds me of the planet Meg Murray goes to in A Wrinkle in Time
where she is trying to rescue Charles Wallace from It, and the neighborhoods are ubiquitous homogenized pasteurized prisons) they could safely allow Section 8 housing without fear, and set their rules and covenants to guide the sponsor-based housing tenants.