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post #1 of 53
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How do I encourage DD's paci use? She's 5.5 months and so far has rejected the Soothie, the Nams, and the Nuks. I am having a hard time with her taking a bottle also but that's another story.

I'm not a paci mom as DS never had the need for it and I liked not having the problem of trying to wean my kids off them... But holy cow, DD is having a really hard time sleeping unless she's on my boob. When I try to gently pop her off, she cries and 80% of the time her eyes are still closed! I much prefer the paci than her thumbs in terms of easier weaning and I would only allow the paci use during hard-to-get-to-sleep moments.

I get her the little newborn ones but she twirls them around and moves them from side to side before shooting them out of her mouth or gagging on them. I've tried both latex and silicone.

Am I doomed to be her paci until she weans herself?
post #2 of 53
Are you only trying it at night? Have you tried it during the day? Sometimes, you just have to keep putting it back in, until they get the hang of it. It took about a week with my dd but she was only 4 weeks old and colicky 10 hours a day so I was pretty motivated. 5 mos may be a bit old.

Also, she may be doing the human paci thing for a reason. Have you had her checked? Maybe at her 6 mos appt, if you go, you can ask about this. Or, take her in sooner. Dr. Sears has some good info, in the sleep section, on his askdrsears website about causes of nightwaking. Sometimes there are reasons, like allergies, teething, etc. If you have not ruled them all out, it could be one of them. When my dd was first teething, nighttime pain was an issue. We got some babyorajel swabs, which are topical only and very easy to apply to the exact spot. Very easy when mom is half asleep. They helped a lot.

Otherwise, I am not sure what to say other than s as this is a trying situation. This too shall pass!
post #3 of 53
My ds who's the same age is having trouble sleeping recently as well....I think it's either teething or his tummy (we started solids)....but he does take a paci and I had to keep giving it. He doesn't always hold it in, although he does long enough to go to sleep. I gave it pretty much from the beginning (dd never got one, but I relaxed with #2). I found one he really likes recently and it has bumps/ridges for teething. Have you tried that one? I can't remember what brand it is, but I can find out.

Has he never taken one before? Maybe it's just too late to get him started, but I don't know....perhaps another mom here has more info if that's the situation.
post #4 of 53
You are not her pacifier, you're her mother. It's normal. She's smart- she knows pacifiers are not a good idea- listen to her.

-Angela
post #5 of 53
some babies just dont like pacis. none of my sons have ever taken them (well, ds3 plays with his. he puts it in his mouth for about 3 seconds, turns it around and puts it in his mouth, etc. etc.).

i would recommend against the paci.

one thing that i just started doing with my son (who at 9 months still loves to keep the nipple in his mouth) is to wait until i KNOW he's asleep, gently remove my nipple, and put my fingers gently under his chin and push up on his chin. i learned this from someone else here a few weeks ago and it has worked about 80% of the time, which is much better than never.

try it and see if it works. even at this age, the paci could affect your bf'ing r/s.
post #6 of 53
I have given my 7 mo a pacifier from early on when I realized that he loved to suck. I had never thought we would use one but the baby knows more than I do about these things! The only one he liked (aside from my nipple or my finger) was the gumdrop (you can google). We tried about 4 other types. He still uses it occasionally now. After 6 mos of ebf, I will have to say that it did not affect my supply or our bf relationship in anyway and soothed him greatly during colicky phases. Anyway, a number of people I know say that this is the only paci their babe will take. However, I don't know if it would be too small for your baby at 5 mos or if she would take to it. I think it's getting too small for DS as he is using it less these days.

At 5 months, though, is exactly when my son went through a phase where he had to be on my breast for 8 hours a night. He did come out of that phase though in the past few weeks and we both survived! I sure thought I was going to go crazy with all the poor sleep and sore boobs. Given that experience, I think you won't be her paci til weaning! Good luck to you.
post #7 of 53
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Originally Posted by aisraeltax View Post
i would recommend against the paci.

one thing that i just started doing with my son (who at 9 months still loves to keep the nipple in his mouth) is to wait until i KNOW he's asleep, gently remove my nipple, and put my fingers gently under his chin and push up on his chin. i learned this from someone else here a few weeks ago and it has worked about 80% of the time, which is much better than never.

try it and see if it works. even at this age, the paci could affect your bf'ing r/s.

This is great advice. I know it's tempting but please don't use a Pacifier, they're not a good idea.
post #8 of 53
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Originally Posted by vegmama View Post
I found one he really likes recently and it has bumps/ridges for teething. Have you tried that one? I can't remember what brand it is, but I can find out.
This is OT, but I've wondered about those pacifiers ever since someone gave us one at ds's baby shower. Don't they teach babies that it's a good idea to gnaw on the things they suck on? IOW, wouldn't a baby that teethes on a pacifier be likely to start teething on mom's nipple, too? (I'm not trying to say that anyone who uses them is wrong! I'm just surprised that it's not a problem.)
post #9 of 53
I'm sure they DO teach that, among other bad things. I have never used a pacifier & never missed it. There are far more drawbacks than advantages.
post #10 of 53
My son loved his binky as a newborn and young infant but he totally gave it up at around 7 months old. Just didn't want it anymore. We struggled at first with how to help him get to sleep without it but ultimately I think it was easier that he gave it up on his own then, than if he'd stayed dependent on it. Maybe your daughter really is just ready to not use it anymore. It's hard but it's probably time to go ahead and make that transition.

I second the suggestion about putting light pressure under the chin after pulling your nipple uot, that seemed to work well with my son as well.

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Originally Posted by TortelliniMama View Post
Don't they teach babies that it's a good idea to gnaw on the things they suck on? IOW, wouldn't a baby that teethes on a pacifier be likely to start teething on mom's nipple, too?
That was never a problem with my son. Even as a toddler/preschooler he's never been one to put random things in his mouth. I don't think he ever actually "gnawed" on the binky anyway...???
post #11 of 53
We never encouraged paci use but have made them available to her. She likes to play with it and chew on it a bit (teething), but has never had a real interest in sucking one and that's fine with me. If she's not addicted to it, then we don't have to worry about her breaking the habit later on.

If yours doesn't want it, then don't force it. Besides, I've heard if you're going to use one, it's best to use up to month six, then after that, not so much as it becomes difficult to wean from its use. So since your child is already close to 6 months, I'd say give it up entirely.

I also gently pop my nipple out of her mouth when she's asleep -- if she cries out or roots for it, I let her suckle a bit longer. But usually soon after, I can pop it out again (not while she's in midsuck obviously) and that works fine. But there have been many nights where I fall asleep with her suckling (side-lying) and that's okay too!
post #12 of 53
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Originally Posted by JavaBean View Post
She's 5.5 months and so far has rejected the Soothie, the Nams, and the Nuks. I am having a hard time with her taking a bottle also but that's another story. But holy cow, DD is having a really hard time sleeping unless she's on my boob. When I try to gently pop her off, she cries and 80% of the time her eyes are still closed!
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At 5 months, though, is exactly when my son went through a phase where he had to be on my breast for 8 hours a night. He did come out of that phase though in the past few weeks and we both survived! I sure thought I was going to go crazy with all the poor sleep and sore boobs. Given that experience, I think you won't be her paci til weaning! Good luck to you.
Recent survivor of this phase Ds will be 6 months next week and spent much of month 5 on the boob all.night.long. Some nights it was hourly and I thought I was going to go nuts. As nighten mentioned, I just tried to snooze through it while sidelying as much as possible but it's tough! There is a HUGE growth spurt around 6 months and I'd guess they're probably nursing like little fiends to get the supply ready for that.

I also wanted to add to you. My ds also refuses a paci/bottle/anything that's not the mama and is a huge comfort nurser. It can be tough, and I imagine your older dc may need you during some of this time too. If your babe just won't take the paci she just won't take it...not much anyone can do about that. If the requirement to nurse all night, even when sleeping, is new, then you can bet it's a phase that's likely to pass long before weaning.
post #13 of 53
I think also that it could be a passing phase. my dd went through this for a couple of months around that time. I think it was a combination of teething, and being hungry all the time. It is hard mama, but if you can, hang in there and let her nurse. It will pass. Of course, if you have to work in the morning, I realize that you really need your sleep.

The times that I have felt like a pacifier was right, were in cases when the baby was really obsessively sucking on anything and everything, every moment of the day, almost like it was a neural situation. For you, it sounds more like a comfort thing. Try to comfort nurse if you can, and know that it is a pretty common thing around that age, and there will be more phases like this. I eventually learned to fall asleep while she was doing that. One other thing you can try, is lying on your back and having her chest, nursing that way. It could be that she just needs to feel your body. If she falls asleep on her stomach on your chest, I would bet that when you take the nipple out of her mouth she won't mind a bit.

Hugs to you mama.
post #14 of 53
DS was never much into the paci, and while we didn't really push it, I always thought it would have been nice if he could have used it sometimes. He's always preferred to nurse. Now he's 7 months old and never uses it anymore. I am glad we don't have to deal with weaning him from the paci. The other good thing is that he is really into sucking his thumb. I'd say over the last month or so, he's been thumbsucking more, and will do it many times to help him fall asleep. Does your dc show any interest in thumbsucking? That could be another alternative.
post #15 of 53
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
You are not her pacifier, you're her mother. It's normal. She's smart- she knows pacifiers are not a good idea- listen to her.

-Angela
Yes I am sure that her baby "knows" they are not a good idea. Lets be real here.
post #16 of 53
DS went through a suckling all night long phase too. The thing I noticed was that it started at the same time the too distracted to focus on nursing phase started. I felt that by nursing all night he was making up for not nursing as much during the day. Remember that just b/c she is asleep doesn't mean she isn't eating.
post #17 of 53
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Originally Posted by vermontgirl View Post
Yes I am sure that her baby "knows" they are not a good idea. Lets be real here.
I believe the poster you're replying to meant that if baby prefers mama to the paci, then baby is reaffirming that a paci is not a god idea in her case.

No need to get snotty about this. We're all doing the best we can.
post #18 of 53
We really encouraged dd to take one in the early weeks (once bf was going strong) because she was screaming for 12 hours a day from colic. She never really liked it, only took it really to get to sleep. At four months she refused both paci and bottle and has never looked back.

At six months she started sippy cups and does ok with them.

I honestly wouldn't push it on her. Have you tried the chin thing? I think I read it in the 'No Cry Sleep Solution', where sometimes if they're sleepy and flutter sucking you can break latch and hold the chin kinda up...if that makes sense...while saying 'shhhh' or something. I thought it was crazy, but it actually worked sometimes with dd. She would relax sometimes to the sound and stop the frantic rooting. And sleep was a terrible struggle for us because we can't cosleep.

Hope this phase passes quickly, or you're able to figure out if there's a reason and fix it.

I'm actually glad dd rejected the paci. I see most kids her age running around with them constantly and I think dd looks so much cuter without a big platic plug in her face. Somehow we survived the post-paci phase. It sometimes took me hours before I managed to nurse her to sleep so I could put her down.

Good luck!!
post #19 of 53
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Originally Posted by vermontgirl View Post
Yes I am sure that her baby "knows" they are not a good idea. Lets be real here.
I'm confused. Do you not think that babies have some wisdom? They know when to eat. They know when to sleep.

Pacifiers are not a good idea This baby is trying to tell mom that she doesn't want or need one.

-Angela
post #20 of 53
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Originally Posted by vermontgirl View Post
Yes I am sure that her baby "knows" they are not a good idea. Lets be real here.
I'm sure she knows it too! What's "unreal" about that?
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