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post #1 of 20
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This is from the TV Forum, its 2 segments from a recently aired 60 mins about AP and BF. I dont have sound on this computer so I dont know what they are saying, but apparently it makes AP out to be bad and negligent and APers out to be kooks?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv8itNc7cb4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rg1dNH2lhw
post #2 of 20
You know, I enjoyed watching this (I only watched the first clip). The narrator/interviewer tried to make attachment parenting sound kooky, but the lady being interviewed (the one inside the home holding the tiny baby) explained AP parenting so well and so logically. Of course, we know that the mainstream will think we are kooky no matter what, but I really think that the one lady interviewed had such a calm and level head in her parenting and explanation...At least in the efforts to insult AP, they picked some awesome mamas!
Off to watch the second segment. Thanks for the clips!
post #3 of 20
Well, they do make it out to be extreme and kooky. No suprise that they took the most "extreme" (according to the mainstream) elements and played them up.
post #4 of 20
Just watched the second clip.
I would love to see any real research that "expert" has regarding the children in AP families. He annoyed me.
His calling extended breastfeeding "sexual abuse" is terribly misguided, and dangerous, to say the least.
post #5 of 20
thanks for the links - I enjoyed watching them.
post #6 of 20
nak Caint wait to show my mil. she thinks extended bf is non existant!
post #7 of 20
"how does this situation allow for more making of babies?" (re:cosleeping)

"do YOU only have sex in a bed?"


: :


That doctor or WHATEVER he was..... was so misguided. Socially abusive?
AP is soooo anything but "abusive".

Plus that man was great....
about getting in line and pretending to be one of the girls!!!!

The thing that irked the heck out of me?
the "spoiled brats" comments.


Yay and a woo hoo for that bfing mama with her boobs AND nipples out.
She was great. so great!

one more thing, then im done.....

when the reporter said that they "gave up their lives and careers to raise their children"

its like, no they chose to change their lives to raise better humans!
post #8 of 20
OK, why do I believe that the woman doing the interviewing has never had children? She just had this superiority thing going that tells me that her opinions have never been tested by reality.

And any non-biased reporting of any topic would have *two* experts to talk, one from each side. It was clear what the intent was...to make APers look like freaks.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by IansMommy View Post
Just watched the second clip.
I would love to see any real research that "expert" has regarding the children in AP families. He annoyed me.
His calling extended breastfeeding "sexual abuse" is terribly misguided, and dangerous, to say the least.
I thought he said it was "social abuse" not sexual abuse.
post #10 of 20
Wow, that was bad. Very bad.

But, ya know, it is the first video I've ever seen of a 5 year old nursing, and they showed a lot of it. It warmed my heart. I can now picture a 5 year old nursing. Cool.

I also am feeling very guilty because I am doing anything but AP at the moment. I'm having some problems and have sent by 2.75 year old son off with his dad for a few weeks. Yes, his dad believes in AP, too, but isn't Mama, and he is really missing Mama. I really hope I have myself and our living space sorted out in a few days and that he can recover from this. I saw him for a few hours today and he so wanted to come home with me, and he hardly nursed. I did manage to get him to agree to go with his dad again for a few more days, but just feel horrible about it. Off topic, I know, but watching those wonderful, committed parents just drove home what I'm doing.
post #11 of 20
I was thinking more about this last night. It occurded to me one of the big things that they kept saying was how it is a "new idea" and "what will these kids be like when they grow up???". The thing is the only part of the AP movement that is totally original is the name AP. The rest of its been around here and there for ages.

I went to a Friends (Quaker) high school (back in the '80s) and many of the parents practiced what would today be called AP without ever thinking it was anything but Society of Friends philosophies applied on the family level. Many of the students had been homeschooled till they got to the highschool level. My chinese MIL co-slept, cloth diapered and then elimination communicationed, made her own baby food, etc not b/c it was some new philosophy, but b/c it's what her mother and grandmother did.

You may have noticed that all Chinese and Friends (Quaker) children have not grown up to be spoiled brats. Or the children from many of the other cultures that have always raised children this way.
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by eepster View Post
I thought he said it was "social abuse" not sexual abuse.
Yep...my bad...
but still a terrible accusation.
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by IansMommy View Post
Yep...my bad...
but still a terrible accusation.
I think he said both. Sexual at the beginning of the 2nd part and social toward the end.
post #14 of 20
If this "expert" calls AP social abuse I wonder what he'd say about the poor children in the world who are truly are abused.... it amazes me that any medical expert would use such strong terminology to describe children who are surrounded by love.
post #15 of 20
Wow. I think it cast a really negative light on AP. Also, I hated that the people were trying to make a point that GD would turn kids into spoiled brats and then it showed the clip of the kids on the table and the telling telling them to get down and they didn't. Then the dad was kind of like "oh well." I was really annoyed.
post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by azzuranotte View Post
I think he said both. Sexual at the beginning of the 2nd part and social toward the end.
Nope, just watched it and he only said social. Not that he wasn't full of it. :
post #17 of 20
Ok, watched it again. I think you're right. His accent is really throwing me off.
post #18 of 20
So mainstream people might gasp in horror, but I loved it. I thought all the women were great. Yep a little extreme on some parts but that's ok. I wish the reporter had more respect toward the mothers though. She made it sound like spending 24hours with your children a bad thing. It isn't easy but I know my children extremely well. I can predict their emotions I understand them in way that I never thought I could understand another person, I don't see how that is bad. Yep my 2 year old is a 2 year old and can be a bit bratty, but usually it is a result of something that has happened or me not paying attention and understanding him. It happens. These momma's have great courage for letting cameras into there homes and exposing all of the way they lived to a very maistream audience. They deserve a round of applause
post #19 of 20
Did y'all see the comments on each of the videos, wow!
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by firstkid4me View Post
Did y'all see the comments on each of the videos, wow!
thanks for the heads up
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