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post #1 of 12
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....tell me what I can do here. I am feeling the financial squeeze now that I am a SAHM.

Our take home pay after taxes, health insurance and everything is $2600, but some months it is a bit more, depending on how many weeks there are in the month (DH get's paid weekly).

Rent - 675
Electricity - averages $60
internet - 56
cell phones (no home phone) - 95
car - 200
car insurance - 156
DH student loan payment - 80
new credit cards minimums of 60
old cc debt minimums of 60

that's 1442 so far.

Gas is another 100-150
Groceries are around 400 monthly
toiletries probably around 30-40
household products around another 30-40
eating out is around 80
netflix 18
medical bills (just had a baby) - 150 minimums

ETA
clothing maybe 40
car maintenence maybe 30
no gifts

that's 2390 total of our existing 2600. I have NO IDEA where the rest of it goes. Crap basically. We have a baby so we are going through baby clothes pretty fast. And the 2600 a month was 2400 a month last month (DH just got a little raise).

Total cc debt is 3800. and I am currently paying the minimums to keep us afloat.

I really want to pay down the cc debt, because it's killing our credit rating and our debt to income ratio. Well, not killing it, but I pay the bare minimums on the cards every month.

What am I missing here? I am sure there are more things I should have included with this posting......
post #2 of 12
Well your budget looks very reasonable. I think the only way to really know is to take a notebook with you and write down each day every little thing that you buy. Also I have found now that I stay home I have the time to root through thrift stores for clothes. I just could not do that when I was working and in school. I would suspect gasoline is pretty high lately. I know with the prices coming down I am very relieved.

Other things that cost money
Hair cuts
minor expenditures like treats and stuff no one thinks of.
fees at the bank for bill pay etc.


BTW we have no home phone and we did verizon for 65 a month. Everyone in our family is on verizon and I am a gabber. I use like 2000 in calling minutes a month but only 500 on our plan instead of the 1000 I am allowed.
post #3 of 12
I agree your budget looks reasonable, however if you REALLY want to squeeze there is some room. Also are there any gas or water bills?

I am wondering how many people are on your cell phone plan. I have a family plan/ 2 ppl only $50 per month. It was a fall special...and its 1000 minutes combined.

How many people are in your family. Groceries can be a bit lower than 400 per month (for 2 adults) unless you eat all organic.
post #4 of 12
Congratulations on the new baby!! I always lost track of finances when I had a new baby for about 6 months -- good for you for making it a priority.

Here are some things that you may want to think about.
Get a phone line, drop your cellphone and get dial up internet. (sorry, not glamourous, but the savings would be about... $60 (45 verizon, 56 internet now exchanged for $30 basic phone service and 11 internet.)
Look at different car insurance plans. If you have one car, your current bill seems high -- unless you have a few tickets or accidents.
I love eating out, so I hate to tell you not to. I'd guess you are eating out once a week, which I think is a needed reprieve. =)
Get rid of netflix. There is 4 thriftstore articles right there!
Medical bills... ummm, if those are just well baby visits, you may want to visit the vaccination forum to decide if you really need that.
Your budget is missing, water/sewer/trash bill - that may or maynot be applicaple. And I don't see anything about the cars gas tank - unless that is part of your car amount.
(sorry for spelling errors!) Hope you can get rid of that icky debt soon - that does make life much better.
post #5 of 12
Your car insurance looks high to me. What's your deductible? I'm assuming that's full coverage, for one car?
post #6 of 12
The things that stood out to me are:

Internet/phone - I have DSL for $17 a month...I know you need a phone line for that; I have the totally cheapest phone service so the total for both is $47. Then, since you'd have phone service, you could get a cheaper cell plan (mine is $30/month, so they're out there).

Groceries - That's the flexible one, so you could definitely finagle some money out of that. I try to set a limit...even putting the month's worth of grocery money in an envelope to keep tangible track of it.

Netflix - Easy to get rid of. I bet your library has lots of movies for free!

Even if you pay $20 more per month on the credit cards (maybe what you would use for Netflix) more than the minimum, that's going to help!
post #7 of 12
That is the same take home pay we have so it is pretty easy for me to compare.

Our mortgage is $1100 per month, but we don't have student loan payments, credit card payments or a car payment so we have about the same amount set aside for debt each month.

We spend $250 - $300 on groceries/tolietries/household products so I think you could probably squeeze some money out of those categories.

Our car insurance is a little less - can you shop around or call your company and see if you can get it lowered a bit?

Your internet/phone costs sound high. We have $40 for a loandline and $18 for internet and no cellphones. I am not sure what services you have/really want but it seems like you could get your communication needs met for a bit less.

How about pushing your eating out bill down to $20 or $30 a month while you payoff some of the other bills that are eating away at your take home pay?

You could probably free up $300 - $400 a month to pay the cc debt that way and then you will have much more wiggle room in your budget soon.

BJ
Barney & Ben
post #8 of 12
The internet + cell phones looks high to me. Look at getting a landline with DSL and see what the cheapest rate you can get there is. You can make long distance calls at home then with Skype for free, or there are calling cards available on the internet with rates as low as 1 cent per minute (it really depends on where you live because you have to use the local access number to get the cheapest rate). Then, you could have prepaid cell phones through Virgin Mobile just for occassional use and they are only $5/month to maintain if you sign up for their top up for $15 every 90 days. Our landline + high-speed internet + 2 cell phones + long distance around here costs us just $65 per month.

I agree you could probably squeeze some more out of the budget for groceries. Just try to shop the sales more carefully, and plan some cheaper meals. There's so many tips around here for doing that.

Analyze WHY you are eating out. Is it because you just didn't feel like cooking, or is it for the entertainment value? Take care of whatever the cause is, and you can probably whittle down that number to. We keep potatoes and the fixings for them (cheese, sour cream, etc), a frozen pizza, peanut butter, and the things to make tuna fish salad around for when I don't feel like cooking. We also keep the bare essentials needed to make a dessert around for when I crave something sweet, and the spices to make chai tea (which I used to love going out to get). DD pretty much zapped out the entertainment value of going out to eat anyway, but we had already started to replace that with walks and picnics before she came along. I find trying to cut a budget down without really analyzing WHY you are doing things is very hard and makes you feel you are cutting down on your quality of life.

For toiletries, what are you using that costs so much? There might be ways of making it yourself. A really good website is http://www.smartskincare.com that analyzes what ingredients are most effective in the skin creams and such, and he's got a really cheap e-booklet that tells you how to add them to cheap base-creams yourself. That website saved me SO much money when I was wanting to experiment with different stuff. Nowadays, we're trying to make the switch to baking soda and vinegar for most stuff, but it's been a very gradual switch for us.

By household products, I guess you mean cleaners and such? It's actually really easy to cut down on those costs if you aren't using all-natural by just shopping at the Dollar Tree for everything (the couple of exceptions being laundry detergent and dishwashing detergent). Their knock-offs have always worked excellently for me. If you're doing all-natural products, I think most people find baking soda, vinegar, and some type of alcohol solution (we just use rubbing alcohol since it evaporates so quickly, but I've heard of vodka) to be just as effective and easy to use. It's not too hard to make the switch to these type of things.

How many movies are you actually watching per month from Netflix? We found the kiosks at grocery stores that rent out movies for $1/night to be much more economical for us. You can see if there is one near you at http://www.thenewrelease.com .

For clothing, I'm not sure what you're currently doing, but I find that 1/2 price day at consignment sales and marked-down clothing at kid's resale shops to be the most economical things for kid's clothing (well, garage sales and freecycle are great, too, but more hit and miss, and I don't have time to do that much anymore). For my own clothing, I'm lucky, I wear quite small sizes when I'm not pregnant, so I can find stuff at consignment sales, too, meant for teens, same for my husband.

Your car maintenance + car payment actually look really reasonable to me. Just be sure to keep that car for as long as possible. I agree that your car insurance looks high. I would contact an independent insurance broker and see what kind of rate they can find for you. You should be able to look at http://www.superpages.com and find one for your area just with the keywords insurance broker. They will look at all the major carriers for you, and I think they even have access to special deals individuals don't necessarily have access to, so it's a quick and good way of getting the best quotes.
post #9 of 12
If you are keeping current on your credit cards call and ask for a lower interest rate. They can do it. Also check the rate you are paying. You might be better off with a consolidation loan and getting rid of cards with a small line of credit to get you through emergencies.
post #10 of 12
I see a lot of room for you to cut back. Budgeting is one of my hobbies, so buckle in this may be a long ride..


When I create our budget I start with our necessary bills just as you did, when it comes to gas in your car there's only so much you can do there, shop around for the best price (often not worth it as it may only save 2-3 cents/gallon), if your car runs on deisel you could consider a converter to run it on veggie oil for a long term solution, but as long as you're making minimum trips (work and only one day of errands/week) you're probably doing the best you can there. When it comes to cars I'm of the mind that if it still runs it's worth keeping. If you keep up on maintainance your cars will last a VERY long time. It's a HUGE financial mistake to sell a car before it's paid off (unless you absolutly can't make the payment), or right after you get it paid off. I recommend that you keep paying on the car until it's paid off and then make that payment to your savings account every month. In 1/2 the time it took you to pay off the car you'll have enough to buy a new one! The longer you keep the car the nicer the next car you buy can be!

Your groceries are SO expensive! Since you're staying at home I would try to go minimum on lunch for you (I have a salad-buy lettuce, tomatoes, and dressing and eat lunch for 5.00/week!- or pb &j with carrots and grapes, tuna salad-before I was pregnant-anything simple). Do you breastfeed? I don't see how old your baby is but if your doing solids you can make them at home rather than buying them. You are already cooking food for you and dh, so why not leave a little bit on the stove and cook it really well, then put it in a food proccessor/blender and in an extra few minutes have food for baby too? You can freeze it in ice cube trays and it's easy to just put one or two in the fridge in the morning to thaw out for lunch and dinner that day.

Find more info here: www.wholesomebabyfood.com

Also, do you buy a lot of convenince food? If you're going to sah I would absolutly recomment honing your cooking skills. Every day we have something delicious like pancakes, waffles, omletts, oatmeal etc. for breakfast, all from scratch. It only takes 5 minutes extra to pull out the cookbook and toss the ingredients in a bowl, and the taste alone is worth it! If you have to get up and immediatly feed the baby, do a feed, change, and pop him/her in the swing for five minutes, or get a sling and wear the baby on your back while you make breakfast. It may take time to get the cooking down, and get the baby used to a routine like that, but it's well worth it.

For dinner try to do everything from scratch. DH can play with the baby while you cook-they need to bond anyway!-and you can take your time and get lots of practice. Planning your meals ahead of time will really help save time. I plan out 21 meals, and just keep a list, then decide at breakfast or lunch what we'll have for dinner (this way meat has all day to defrost in the fridge rather than waste electricity using the microwave and risk cooking it in there-its much fresher this way!). I make my list on shopping day and just make sure we have the ingredients for each meal, then I only have to worry about the regulars like milk and bread. When I plan my meals I try to base them on a dish rather than a food- for example chicken pot pie vs fried chicken. This way you can use less meat (a big expense) and a cheaper cut of meat (this week I got chicken leg quarters on sale for .49/lb!) because the flavor of the meat isn't so much the focus. Don't forget sides, you need to plan those too! Comparison shop! We get circulars every week in the mail and grocery stores often have them online too! Check their website if they're a chain and you can see what's on sale where. Some places will price match (walmart), or you can just go to the store that has the most items you need for the best price.

What does Dh have for lunch? Is he eating out every day? Why not take a couple minutes and pack him something yummy everyday? He'll be healthier and probably enjoy it more. My dh loves pb&j, so he has that every day, which is easy and cheap for me, but you could just as easily send leftovers from dinner, or lunchmeat, meat salad, whatever he likes that's easy for you! There is a great section on boxed lunches on the website below.

Check out this website for great tips on meal planning: www.hillbillyhousewife.com

In my opinion $40 is WAY too much to spend on toiletries every month. You should think closely about what you're buying with that money. I clip coupons and watch for sales for shampoo, hairspray and toothpaste. Then I take my ads and coupons to walmart for the ad matching and stock up when I can get something really cheaply. My greatest buy so far has been a full sized can of hairspray for .40! This takes some time, but it's well worth it. Consider buying your TP in bulk. You can often get it for 1/2 the price this way! My favorite place is quixtar.com (this is a private site, and you have to have a code to join, but email me at kristie_cregar@hotmail.com and I can give it to you).
I have long hair and I like for it to be nice so I use a regular cheap shampoo, and condition every other day to save money. Then I have a super expensive salon conditioner that I buy once a year at a BOGO sale and I use it once a week and let it sit on my hair for 5 minutes. I love what this does for my hair, and it's way cheaper than using salon products every day.

Speaking of bulk, now that you'll be making everything from scratch consider joining a wholesale club. At our local Sam's I can get my flour,sugar all that for half the price I would pay at the grocery store on sale! That's also a great place to get TP in bulk.

$40 is also a lot for household products. My budget is 10/month! I mostly try to use natural cleaners because I hate chemicals, and don't want to expose our baby to those yucky things (ours is still on the way). You can find TONS of advice on the web about natural products and how to clean with them. My favorite advice comes from about.com's frugal living section you can find here: http://frugalliving.about.com/
I would seriously consider making your own laundry detergent. This was a big expense for us 'cause we never wear anything twice and I use cloth to clean with rather than paper towels (big money saver!), plus we plan to use cloth diapers. Go here and find a terrific recipe for easy homemade laundry soap (I asked some cloth using mammas their opinion and asked the frugal living guide on about.com her opinion and it was cleared with the following exception) if you have hard water you'll want to add vinegar to your rinse, or consider adding calgon water softener to each wash. I do vinegar in a downy ball, 1/2 cup and it comes out in the rinse to prevent soap buildup and dishwater grayness in whites. The recipe: http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/ProductD...1&Show=ExtInfo
There are several recipes but the powder one is great and the easiest to make.

While we're talking about laundry, have you considered a high effeciency set? They cost a lot up front, but pay for themselves over and over, especially as much as you're using yours with cd and baby clothes! DO NOT let the salesman convince you that you need the most expensive model. The cheapest model will do. They'll tell you that you need one big enough to fit your comfortor, but how often do you wash your comforter? Is it worth an extra $500 to avoid a trip to the laundr-o-mat once a season? It's not worth it to me! Plus the smaller your unit the less energy it will use. Don't over scrimp because it's a 10-20 year committment, but think hard about what size you need, don't let consumerism take over.

When it comes to entertainment lots of opinions differ. There are lots of things you can do for free, but if you don't enjoy them they are pointless. If you're like us taking a walk is not as fun as dinner and a movie. So, we allow for this in our budget. We try to go to a medium price restaraunt like Applebee's or Chili's and we can eat a good sized meal there for $30. I budget so we have two dinners out each month, plus two trips to the movies at the matinee price (if you go before dinner it's cheaper and you can discuss the movie while you eat!). I also add in four magazine subscriptions each year. We look around for the best price on magazines (publisher's clearinghouse), and save up money all year so it's not an unexpected expense. For anything of this nature (where we save all year) it's easier for me to take the money out of our account in cash each week and put it in a labled envelope. If I leave it in our account it gets lost in the mix and dissapears. I do the same for our eating out/movie budget. Then when we go out to eat we take the cash and leave all other money at home. This way we know not to spend more than we have in cash for everything including tip and drinks.

Medical bills are tricky. As a pp said if you're spending money on well-child visits I would reconsider. Just because that's the norm doesn't mean it's a requirement. When I was a kid we went only when something was wrong. My dh has never seen a dr in his life and is one of the healthiest people I know! I would think strongly about this one. Do what you're comfortable with, but even cutting back to every other well child visit that is recommended is still safe. If you only have a question I have never had a problem calling my dr and getting a response the same day, he's honest about whether he needs to see me about it or not. He even does prescriptions over the phone if he knows what's going on. This way I don't have to pay for office visits or a copay.


When it comes to clothing the best advice I can give you is to check out www.freecycle.org they're not in every area, but they're all around the world and people will give you TONS of baby clothes. With our first baby on the way we have not had to buy anything and the only things we still need are a mattress for the crib and crib bedding (we got crib, glider rocker, bathtub, swing, boppy, car seat, clothing, everything! for free!!). There are more baby items on our freecycle than people can use! If they're not in your area check out goodwill or other consignment shops for clothes. As you said baby goes through them fast, so who cares if someone else wore them first, baby will only be wearing them for a few months anyay! Why spend a fortune on them?

You should add gifts into your budget. We save all year for Christmas (again we use the envelope method for this too). $400 is enough budget for our Christmas including wrapping paper and everything, so we save $34 aside every month and never have to worry about how we'll pay for Christmas. Plus if dh gets a bonus we can use it for some debt or put it in savings for a house. I would NEVER recommend counting on a bonus to pay for Christmas, I worked for a company that without notice decided to start giving out hams instead of money for a bonus one year. Talk about strapped! I was couting on that money! But now we always have enough, and with that money sitting there every month I know that if I find a gift I'd really like to give someone for Christmas in May I have a little money to buy it. If it's on sale that's even better!

As far as your debt goes I recommend using this method:
List your debt (car and everything) on a piece of paper starting with the largest interest rate ending with the lowest. Also write down your minimum payment for each item. Pay the minimum on all but the first item on your list (the highest interest rate), for this one pay as much as you can (at least 50) in addition to the minimum payment. When you can cross that one off take the entire amount you paid on it and add it to the minimum payment for the second item on your list. Keep this going and you'll have them all paid off before you know it. It's really rewarding to see how fast they start dissapearing after you get that first item off your list.

I think that's about all I have for now! Keep us updated on how you're doing!
post #11 of 12

Thanks for the advice!

GoddessKristie, you are my new hero!
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GoddessKristie, you are my new hero!
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