TTC 6+ Months November Support Thread - Page 3

[funnygrace]

Welcome, Beutyful! I added you to the list. I guessed on the month you started--pls. let me know if you want me to change it.

[oceanmommy]

Thank you everyone for the comfort you have given me ! I know that you all know how I feel and that means a lot. I think I'd feel completely insane if I couldn't come here and feel normal (as far as the ttc goes anyways ) I'm still working through all the nasty feelings but I feel like I'm getting closer to acceptance and moving on mode.
What are the 5 stages of grief ? 1.denial, 2.anger, 3.bargaining, 4.depression, 5.acceptance. Yup I think I've hit all 5 now

I had thought about the progesterone being the cause of higher temps but the first month on it my temps were exactly in line for my normal. And it is a natural progesterone that is low dosage. Maybe I just responded better to it this time ?

The Clomid idea is going on the back burner for a bit, I want to try a few more post-HSG cycles and see if we can get "the drano effect"



Hi Beutyful, welcome, I hope your stay here is short and sweet.


Lilyflower have you googled PCOS ? I know there are a ton of good PCOS websites for women ttc, it is quite common. 3-6 months seems so long I know, vitex also takes awhile to help apparently.

[Beutyful]

Thanks Grace you can remove the question mark cause you are dead on! Thanks!

[lilyflower]

Oceanmommy I gotta hand it to you, that is some serious patience you got there. You must be a great mommy. Hopefully I will learn from you and not be so impatient to try Clomid. I never thought I would try it and the second I made the doctor's appointment my ideas changed and now I am wishing I could just get on with that too. My husband would like me to wait a while and just try this metformin without even TTC for a couple of months to give my body a chance to adjust, which is oh so darn logical, as men always seem to be! But I seriously think even if we didn't try, I would still be suffering the TWW anyway, I don't know why, it would just then be a 6WW and I can't do it. I would rather try at least since I know I will be feeling it anyway. That is a super wonderful attitude you have now and I hope you can stick with the acceptance feelings.

[HopesMom]

oceanmommy although you already seem to be gaining some peace. You are so strong mama!

AnonK- I did acupuncture last cycle and found it very relaxing! I hope it goes well.

[lilyflower]

AND... what second of today have I NOT googled PCOS and metformin today Oceanmom??

[dctexan]

But oceanmommy I don't want AF to find you! *stamps foot and pouts*
I loved your chart this cycle.
A chart like that not being a BFP just makes me realize how freaking whacked out this whole processes is. Are there actually any real signs that you are pg (other than a BFP)? Why oh why do we spend so much time torturing ourselves during the TWW getting our hopes up or a chart. Seems a bit like self-abuse if you ask me (not that I am stopping anytime soon...too addicted to chart stalking)
I do have to say that I am extremely proud of you Ocean for moving through the stages of grief so quickly. I am somewhere between denial and anger for you and I will probably stay here until I hear otherwise.
to you. My fingers are still crossed.

[funnygrace]

dctexan--Are you new on this thread? Or just popping in? Let me know if you want me to add you to the first post--just give me the month you started trying for #1... and WELCOME!

[dctexan]

Just popping in. DH and I are on cycle 3 of TTC. No need to add me to the list yet (hopefully, and please don't take this the wrong way, I will not have to be added AT ALL...wonderful as all you ladies are). I was stalking oceanmommy's chart this month and just had to let her know that I was thinking about her.

[anonymousk]

Just wanted to stop in and give an update - I LOVED the acupuncture! I had a really great connection with the acupuncturist, and after looking at all my issues (migraines, tmj, allergies) he felt that I was a textbook case for chinese medicine and felt that my treatment would be really successful. Apparently I don't have enough blood (? haven't researched this yet ) and we are working at moving the blood I have out of the top half of my body and into the lower half and creating some more. The needles were no big deal AT ALL and my feet do feel warmer... although I'm not ruling out the power of suggestion. But he made me feel very validated, very relaxed, and very optimistic. He looked over my charts and was so supportive about the suspected conceptions and said that they made perfect sense given what was going on. So I will be back every week for the next few months.

Expensive, yes, but if he can just get my feet warmer at night, the improvement in my marriage will be worth it!

Allisonrose - it seems like we had about the same treatment! Did they change the needle positions later? He said he was using the 'little kid' needles today and would do larger ones next week, but that's as much as I know.

Oceanmommy - thinking of you.

Welcome to Elkmama and Beutyful!

[pampered_mom]

Wow!! You go away for awhile and then HopesMom goes and gets herself knocked up!! I am so happy for you!!!!!!!!!

Congrats to punquin, too!!

s to Oceanmommy

Ok...that's it for me, ladies. I'm watching "The Corporation" right now and can't really bear to tear myself away from it anymore!

[Tenk]

Hi everyone, I just wanted to add that I FINALLY got a + OPK this morning...hell yeah...I'm gettin some in the morning!!!

[mommy_in_chaos]

Hey girls, I just wanted to vent a moment. My temp dropped this am. My boobs don't "hurt" anymore, they're just sore. And I'm feeling like I need to go back to bed. I'm thinking this is going to be a very long day.

[Hezzy]

Thanks for the welcome homes, everyone. It's nice to be back.

BDing is going well. I'm sure O is imminent if it hasn't already happened.

Mommy in chaos -- here's hoping it's a false alarm. But in case it's not.

Big to Oceanmommy.

anonymousk -- the acupuncture sounds great. I've been thinking about doing that too. I think, I might even get some coverage for it, so I should try. I hope it does the trick for you!

: to those waiting to know. And here's to happy BDing for those of us around O!!

[HopesMom]

Originally Posted by pamered_mom

Wow!! You go away for awhile and then HopesMom goes and gets herself knocked up!! I am so happy for you!!!!!!!!!

thanks!

[lilyflower]

OKAYYYYY....... Here is my dilemma. I need some serious wise wisdom from all of you well-informed ladies.

I just spoke with my doctor. She said she is not totally sure of my diagnosis of PCOS, as I have none of the symptoms, I just had a laparoscopy to remove several cysts on one ovary when I was 19 and my current ultrasound 1/2 year ago showed some follicular cysts. Based on that, and the fact that I have no infertility coverage, she started me on metformin because it would be covered. It takes three to six months to begin seeing the effects and then if that didn't work, she would try Clomid. I am very nauseated right now from the Metformin and kind of dreading taking it for three months if that is not really my problem.

Now she is saying that I could try Clomid now, and that would probably work too, but she just wanted to save me money. I feel that I don't care about the money issue and would pay for Clomid, especially if it would work quicker?? and I would not have to go through three more months of this first with no luck. Metformin really messes with your insulin, liver function, etc., and I don't want to do that if I don't really have PCOS. I have ovulated each month, I figure Clomid will help to fully form an egg if that is the problem. I am concerned about the twin issue, but personally would be happy about that myself.

Anyway, if I decide to do the Clomid route instead, I would have to stop metformin immediately to be able to start Clomid next cycle. What should I do????? My husband has left this decision purely up to me, as he would be fine just doing nothing and seeing what happens. I went to the doctor hoping for some serious answers and I keep feeling like Clomid is a more sure answer, but I am not sure if I am letting my anxiousness get in the way of my decision making. If anyone has some clear advice to give, please throw it out there for me.

Hopesmom - it worked for you right?

Does anyone know how much Clomid is?

I have to make this decision so that I can stop taking the medicine by tonight. I think she also wanted me to stop Vitex if I decide on Clomid.

[funnygrace]

lilyflower--Oh, how tough to have to make a quick decision like that. In your synopsis of the situation, I hear that you want to quit Metformin and start Clomid, so I think that is what you should do. In the long run, it could save money if it gets you preg faster. I think that Clomid is not all that expensive. I think that it is about $50-$80 per cycle. Of course, others will know!

[Tenk]

Lily I just wanted to put my 2 cents in. I barely felt any S/E of the clomid, and I took 100mg CD1-5. O'ing as we speak on CD15. I bought mine on line for $45 for a 3 month supply...I did not have a prescription, BUT you can get it from a Canadian Pharmacy on line WITH your prescription for less than it costs locally (In the US that is) but i have heard that with some insurances that it's very reasonably priced even in the US. Maybe you could ask her to give you prevera (spelling) to start AF now??? and then take the clomid sooner than planned originally?!?!? IMO that is, I was sooo ready to start the clomid and hated that AF was 4 days late for the first time since Kamryn passed. Best of luck to you on what ever you decide hun. Oh and I can feel BOTH of my ovaries O'ing right now, and Tricia got PG on her 2nd cycle...it can't be all bad

[oceanmommy]

thanks to Tricia, Lilyflower, Emily (dctexan), AnonymousK, Pampered Mom, Hezzy, and everyone for their hugs and good thoughts. It is really helpful to feel understood and not-alone at those low points.

I think I hear AF arriving but she hasn't quite showed her face yet. Today's temp is down below the coverline so that really cinches it. : The weather outside is like this today, dark, cold, rainy, windy.
I am getting my happy face ready because I am going to teach science to kindergarteners this afternoon. Those kids will run right over you if they sense weakness The last couple times AF has arrived have all been when I am at the classroom on my one day a week to volunteer (it was like this all year last year at our cooperative preschool as well - always on my day to volunteer). Even when I switched which day of the week I go in AF still found me at school. Must be another cosmic joke.



Theresa put your feet up and take care of yourself. I hope you are feeling better soon.


AnonK Acupuncture sounds very promising, I 've always wanted to try it myself. I will be following your reults with serious interest, I hope it works for you.


Lilyflower I think the clomid is calling you. Yes, stop vitex too because you cannot take clomid and vitex together : I agree that if your diagnosis of pcos is sketchy you might want to try the met later as opposed to sooner. Especially if it makes you sick - bleh. I had heard that the cost of clomid is about what Funnygrace just said ($50-80 per cycle)


Tenk : Good Luck GIO ! Have fun ! That goes for you too Hezzy

[allisonrose]

anonymousk - The first time she did only my front side. Every time since then she has done my front side and then had me lay on my side to put needles in my back. The needles in my lower abdomen and wrists are usually about the same. Sometimes she puts one in my ear, sometimes not. She has also done one around my breast bone on a few occasions. I think the leg ones change occasionally. I don't always remember why she put them last time. She has always used the same needles. They're pretty long but solid - not hollow like needles for drawing blood which makes them virtually painless. Of course she only inserts a certain amount of the needle. Occasionally she has come in and twisted a needle or two which feels kinda weird but not really painful.

I hope this helps you out. I go between being optimistic about this month and trying to not get my hopes up. I feel like I'm doing something rather than just sitting back. This month I'm going to continue with treatments each week and next month I will switch to every other week for financial reasons. At that point, I will likely be doing more to pursue a Western diagnosis.

For this month, I decided to use my Clear Plan FM (that I purchased off ebay on impulse) since I ovulated early last month - CD13 instead of around CD15. But today on CD7 I got a high reading. : Ugh. Right now I'm stuck at work but I really wish I'd had time this morning to look at the old FM sticks to see if the monitor maybe just read the stick wrong or what. Sometimes technology sucks.