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post #21 of 205
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Originally Posted by skellbelle View Post
ITA. I wish cops around here would pull people over for the "little" things - what, it's been three, four years since the "no cell handset while driving" law was enacted here, and I STILL see idiots every day yammering away on their : cells and doing 75 on the highway. : But of course the cops aren't gonna see them, 'cause they're going *85* (non-emergency). Argh.

And then I see the unrestrained kids climbing around in cars, the moms driving with their babe in a Bjorn, the carseats that are NOT properly installed and/or buckled (loose straps, chest plate threaded wrong)...

Ugh, I digress. OP - if your H didn't get ticketed, I see nothing wrong with the cop being extra cautious.

But then, 1/2 of my family was involved in a bad accident and I know firsthand the utmost importance of proper restraint (not to mention, smaller kids being in the back seat whenever possible).

I'm in 100% agreement with you on this. My motto, better safe than sorry. They were just doing their job. This is how we reduce the amount of fatalities in children in fatal car crashes.
post #22 of 205
I just looked our laws up b/c I thought they were 6 yrs and 60 lbs. Apparently, they are 4 and 40. They are looking to change legislation in our state to 8 and 80.

My crew are in boosters still. My oldest is 11 and weighs under 70 lbs. My nine year old is the only one who is out of the booster some as she is 82 lbs. My eight year old is around 73 lbs. They are the same height and the seat belts in our van don't fit right unless they are sitting still at all times, which rarely happens. My five year old is still in a five point car seat.
post #23 of 205
Yes I do think it's a waste of police time. If the child was completely unstrapped then go for it. But clearly this was at most a borderline judgement call on even questioning it since the child was strapped in and is over the weight and age limit.
post #24 of 205
I wish cops around here would stop for improperly restrained children as well. I see it all the time, and I'm reminded of one accident on the highway recently. A woman rolled her car and had her 2 year old daughter in a properly fitting carseat in the back. Mom was flown away in critical condition. Daughter was FINE, except for some facial lacerations due to glass. Incredible.

It's not so much the law that you have to worry about... it's the safety of your children. Your kids could be within the parameters of the law, but if the seatbelt is fitting improperly, it could cost you their health, or their life. For your almost 8 year old, and inexpensive $20 backless booster will make her seatbelt fit better.

Just chalk this up to 'information is power'.
post #25 of 205
i agree too.. i wish the cops around here would care enough to stop cars..I se cars with ppl piled in them.. like 4 ppl in the cab of a truck..and ppl rideing unrestraind in the bed of a pick up..in cali you aren;t allowed to do that.. i was shocked..her you don't have to wear a helmet either...:
post #26 of 205
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Originally Posted by Houdini View Post
I just looked our laws up b/c I thought they were 6 yrs and 60 lbs. Apparently, they are 4 and 40. They are looking to change legislation in our state to 8 and 80.

My crew are in boosters still. My oldest is 11 and weighs under 70 lbs. My nine year old is the only one who is out of the booster some as she is 82 lbs. My eight year old is around 73 lbs. They are the same height and the seat belts in our van don't fit right unless they are sitting still at all times, which rarely happens. My five year old is still in a five point car seat.
You rock!
post #27 of 205
you can send those police here, i see kids out of seatbelts everyday! i call 911 everytime, but i can't imagine they always respond.
post #28 of 205
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Originally Posted by *MAMACITA* View Post
i agree too.. i wish the cops around here would care enough to stop cars..I se cars with ppl piled in them.. like 4 ppl in the cab of a truck..and ppl rideing unrestraind in the bed of a pick up..in cali you aren;t allowed to do that.. i was shocked..her you don't have to wear a helmet either...:

Yeah here there are ALOT of ppl (mainly soldiers) who ride w/out helmets. The dealers here are even selling cycles without a license...thats why there are so many wrecks here.
post #29 of 205
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Originally Posted by LDSmomma6 View Post
It's 8 and 80 lbs here too. My almost 12 yr old TALL daughter is only 67. She is not about to sit in a booster.
I make my 9 year old sit in a booster. If they don't weigh enough the seatbelt won't lock ( quick enough) in case of an accident. I don't care if it's uncool.
post #30 of 205
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Originally Posted by Joannarachel View Post
He sounds like my kind of cop. He cares enough to pull people over for driving around with unrestrained children.

Children really need to be in booster seats until 4'9" and 80 lbs, minimally. Regardless of what your law is, please consider the officer's advice. Please put your dd in a booster seat.
I agree. 15 pounds to go ...
post #31 of 205
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Originally Posted by Joannarachel View Post
He sounds like my kind of cop. He cares enough to pull people over for driving around with unrestrained children.

Children really need to be in booster seats until 4'9" and 80 lbs, minimally. Regardless of what your law is, please consider the officer's advice. Please put your dd in a booster seat.
As I said, I am not going to get into a debate about other's personal opinions of what age/pounds children need to be in car seats.

My child was NOT unrestrained, she had her seatbelt on. We were WELL WITHIN the law.

I think instead of the ever changing car seat laws and the bigger and bigger car/booster seats, car manufacturers should be held accountable and forced to put seatbelts into cars that better fit a wider variety of people

I have 5'4", my car has supposedly adjustable seatbelts and my peddles move back and forth so I can have my seat farther back. But since I have a chest, ever five minutes the seatbelt rides up and goes across my neck and chokes me. I am FOREVER readjusting the stupid seatbelt. Now if these things were REALLY adjustable they would better fit shorter adults and children and there would be no need for booster seats. Of course I am sure the car seat manufacturers would be upset about that.
post #32 of 205
How about safety?
If I used booster seats in my van, the seat only kind, the child's head would be above the back of the seat and pose a serious risk of whip lash or broken neck if I were in a collision. I drive a 15 passenger van.
Honestly, I don't even know the law here in VA anymore. It was changed and then changed again. IMO if a child can ride a school bus at age 5 without a car/ booster seat, then my child age 5 and up can ride in my van with a seatbelt. I think the age is 6 and under in a restraining seat of some sort.

The 6yrs and 60lbs thing would have my 8 yr old still in a booster seat, but be too tall for the regulations of the seat!:

VENT AWAY!!! I'd be venting too...
post #33 of 205
My DD is 5'4" as well, way to big to be in a booster, and the seatbelt would choke her if we ever got in a bad accident. The laws they have are rediculous, and I totally agree about modifying seat belts.
post #34 of 205
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Originally Posted by Electra375 View Post
How about safety?
IMO if a child can ride a school bus at age 5 without a car/ booster seat, then my child age 5 and up can ride in my van with a seatbelt.
Correct me if I am wrong.

The reason that children can ride in buses at five without restraints is due to the height of the seats and the padding of the seats.

Honestly, my children rarely ride a bus anyway b/c they do not have restraints. They have been on a bus occassionally for a field trip when they wanted to be with their friends, but I really don't feel buses are safe at all.
post #35 of 205
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Originally Posted by aniT View Post
car manufacturers should be held accountable and forced to put seatbelts into cars that better fit a wider variety of people
I completely agree!

Maybe we should start an MDC lobbying group
post #36 of 205
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Originally Posted by Houdini View Post
The reason that children can ride in buses at five without restraints is due to the height of the seats and the padding of the seats.
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Ever hit your head on that padding? OWW!!... Besides high seats and padded backs are not going to stop children from flying all over the bus and our out the windows were it to get into a bad accideint.
post #37 of 205
I guess they didn't have any paranoid-schizophrenics to beat to death that day.
post #38 of 205
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Originally Posted by aniT View Post
As I said, I am not going to get into a debate about other's personal opinions of what age/pounds children need to be in car seats.

My child was NOT unrestrained, she had her seatbelt on. We were WELL WITHIN the law.

I think instead of the ever changing car seat laws and the bigger and bigger car/booster seats, car manufacturers should be held accountable and forced to put seatbelts into cars that better fit a wider variety of people

I have 5'4", my car has supposedly adjustable seatbelts and my peddles move back and forth so I can have my seat farther back. But since I have a chest, ever five minutes the seatbelt rides up and goes across my neck and chokes me. I am FOREVER readjusting the stupid seatbelt. Now if these things were REALLY adjustable they would better fit shorter adults and children and there would be no need for booster seats. Of course I am sure the car seat manufacturers would be upset about that.

some vehicles have already installed child restraints. My dads van (forget model) has some. WHen my kids go with him, we never have to remember to hand over the boosters and carseats.
post #39 of 205
I don't think it was a bad thing that he stopped your dh to check it out. I wish they did that around here. It's horrible here, really. Some people just don't get it. I am not saying you, just others, like my BIL and SIL. SIL had their ds on her lap in the front seat when he was just 18 - 24 months and they hit a deer. He got slammed into the dashboard and hurt his hand pretty bad. We are all lucky that nothing worse happened to him, but they still didn't bother to use the carseat after that for him or their dd they had after him.

WI law says
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Citations may be issued starting in January of 2007

Second and subsequent violations during the grace period are citable.

In basic terms:

* Children must be in a car seat until they reach age 4 and in a booster seat until they reach age 8
* Tiered structure now applies:
o Less than 1 year old, or less than 20 lbs. must be in a rear-facing child seat in the back seat (if so equipped)
o Age 1 to age 4, or less than 40 lbs. must be in a forward-facing child seat in the back seat (if so equipped)
o Age 4 to age 8, between 40-80 lbs., and no more than 4 ft. 9 ins. must be in a booster seat
* The fines remain the same, although tiered for ages 0-4 and ages 4-8
* The exemption allowing temporary removal of a child from a restraint to attend to personal needs has been removed
* The exemption for physical, medical, or body size condition still applies to booster seats and seat belts
So, in the state of WI, your dd must be in a booster, unless she is 4' 9" or over.

I am glad your dh didn't get a ticket, because you are within the law. Even though it was a bit of a pain, the cop really was looking out for your dd's safety here. I hope that he has been able to make things safer for some other children who were not restrained according to the laws.
post #40 of 205
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Originally Posted by aniT View Post
Ever hit your head on that padding? OWW!!... Besides high seats and padded backs are not going to stop children from flying all over the bus and our out the windows were it to get into a bad accideint.
I completely agree with you....I was asking in reference to someone who posted if five year olds can ride in a bus unrestrained then they were safe in their vehicle.

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Originally Posted by Electra375
IMO if a child can ride a school bus at age 5 without a car/ booster seat, then my child age 5 and up can ride in my van with a seatbelt.
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