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I had a chance to catch up with an old friend today (months after the birth of her first child). It sounded like she has been pretty tramatized by the experience, and then she's had rotten advice about breastfeeding (so therefore is not currently bf'ing but is pumping with plans to quit that too). I wish that I could help her. I wish she had better information. I wish she would attempt to reconnect with baby at breastfeeding. But I'm not her, so I'm not sure what to do at this point because she sounds pretty sensitive... like she's tried everything and is emotionally drained.

My first question is this: if you knew someone in her situation, would you try to give her better information? Would you encourage her to breastfeed again?

Some details: For first few weeks they successfully used the finger feeder (don't have details why that was needed). He bf'd for a day successfully. She was then told to pump & dump for a couple weeks by a doc because of meds she needed to take. Then baby had green poop which she believes is from him getting too much of her milk so she now only gives expressed milk every 3 hours and soy bottle in between if he's hungry. She has a stock pile of breastmilk frozen for him for ?? months, and plans on stopping pumping once she has enough to last 5 months. She is returning to work in a few weeks. The boy is afraid of her breasts. She has a great supply of milk, but talks of the day when her milk will run out.

Second question:Tell me about green infant poop... is there such a thing as an overload? I've read there's an imbalance of hindmilk vs. foremilk... would this be a problem for babies receiving expressed milk in a bottle... I mean wouldn't the hind/fore milk all mix together?

Anything else you can offer me in the way of how to approach this would be great. Ummm I guess I just realized this may not be the best forum for these questions... please move me to the right place, or let me know if I should cross post... TIA! Heidi
post #2 of 9
I might try to give her better information, but I'm a bit shy. It'd depend on my relationship with her.

Green poop = too much foremilk. My DD gets it for a day after she's upped my production. If she feeds off the same breast for 3 or 4 feedings then switches to the other for 3 or 4 feedings that should fix it, I believe. I never remember and it resolves for DD before it becomes a real issue.
post #3 of 9
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Thanks! I am curious about this green poop because it didn't make sense that formula would be the solution.
post #4 of 9
Well, I imagine it would stop the green, if only because it's a bit thicker than foremilk is. The baby just needs more of the fatty hindmilk, no need for formula.

Also could be a food allergy/sensitivity to something Mom is eating.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...ighlight=green
post #5 of 9
Green poop can also be caused by the formula itself, due to the overload of iron in infant formula.

(My son had green poop too for about three weeks, until I stopped taking my iron supplement.)
post #6 of 9
Is she ever going to have enough to last 5 months? A gallon of milk only lasts a few days and even 1 gal is a lot of extra milk, yk?

Anyway, I guess what I would do is just ask her, does she really want to stop or does she just think she HAS to, but doesn't really want to. Because if she really wants to stop I wouldn't push it. She's already been traumatized and would probably end up feeling attacked. But if she feels cheated, like she thinks she isn't capable of providing milk but wishes she could, I might say something supportive about how she probably is capable, and she could try XYZ, like EPing since she's going to be pumping at work anyway, and just say it in a supportive way. But I'd want to know her feelings about it first. I'd only suggest ways to get the baby back to the breast if that's what the mother really wants to do.
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So basically with this information about needing more hindmilk... does that mean she perhaps wasn't/isn't pumping long enough?? I'm trying to sort this out...

As for approaching her, yes I definitely think I need to ask her how she feels about all this. Like, if there was a way for some breastfeeding to happen, would she be willing to try it...

--How long is expressed milk good for? I read somewhere that it loses it's nutrients the longer it is stored... Accurate?
post #8 of 9
As someone who received horrible information and totally gave up on BF far too soon, I'll speak to how to approach your friend.

First ask if she is open to help/advice/support. You might want to preface your offer with some acknowledgment that when BF doesn't go smoothly or as planned it can be very difficult and you understand if she is a bit raw emotionally.

Then if she is open tothe help/advice, great! If not understand that she might have been grieving for some time and has reached a place she is okay with, kwim?

Good luck -- you are a good friend for wanting to help!
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Originally Posted by jaidymama View Post
So basically with this information about needing more hindmilk... does that mean she perhaps wasn't/isn't pumping long enough?? I'm trying to sort this out...

As for approaching her, yes I definitely think I need to ask her how she feels about all this. Like, if there was a way for some breastfeeding to happen, would she be willing to try it...

--How long is expressed milk good for? I read somewhere that it loses it's nutrients the longer it is stored... Accurate?

Well, green poop can possibly be normal because poop can come in all kinds of wierd colors, but green mucousy poop, or green poop with discomfort, etc, is not normal. So first of all you'd have to determine if there really was a hindmilk emballance at all. If there was a hindmilk imballance while pumping, she should know that there's high fat content in the last drops that she pumps, like when you're almost done pumping and there's just drops of milk being expressed. So she should pump as close to empty as she can get (for some women there will always be drops coming out and it never stops, so that could be a judgment call of when to stop pumping.) One thing she could try is mixing several bottles worth of milk together to make the fat content more uniform, so there aren't some bottles with lots of foremilk and others with more hindmilk. Then put the mixed together milk into serving size bottles.

Here are storage guidelines:
http://www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/m...e.html#storage
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