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post #41 of 80
I definitely agree that 5-pt harnesses are much safer than boosters. However, I believe LATCH is only good for up to 40 pounds. After that, you're supposed to secure the seat with the seat belts... which wouldn't fix the problem of a faulty seatbelt. Although, a tether and the seat itself would offer more protection in case of a seatbelt failure.
post #42 of 80
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Originally Posted by Moochie Mamma View Post
Does anyone use any of the seats listed above? How heavy are they and what do you think of them? DS is 42lb and 42 inches tall.

Thanks!
We have the Radian one. After a car accident we had to get rid of our Britax Wizard and they didn't make that exact one anymore and the lady at the store that sells both brands swore up and down that if she still had small kids she'd get the Radian over the Britax anyday. (how's that for a run-on sentence?)

http://www.amazon.com/Sunshine-Kids-...=baby-products

As for my opinion I love it over the Britax b/c the bottom of the seat is lower. DD's legs don't fall asleep like they did in the Britax and the seat is easy to get on and off an airplane and travel with. It also makes it much easier for dd to get in and out of. It's convertible although we didn't need it to be. And cheaper than Britax. At least for now.
post #43 of 80
If a child has to stay in a 5 point till they are 80+lbs that would be crazy IMO.

That means I would have been an adult sitting in a booster :

There needs to be a better gage of when to have a child sitting in a 5 point. There are many skinny/thin people out in this world.
post #44 of 80
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Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
Yes, it might be like your child getting struck by lightning, but don't you have your kids come inside or not stand under trees during a big thunderstorm because of the risk, as small as it may be?
Good gravy, no. That would be crazy. Being out while it's raining/storming (unless it's really windy and/or scary) is one of the greatest things ever.

I would think most parents would keep their kids inside only if it's really really lightening-y, or windy enough to be dangerous. I can't imagine keeping my child inside every time there's a storm, just because he could be struck by lightning!

But, I live in Wichita, Kansas... maybe that's why. I would have to keep him inside 40% of the year.
post #45 of 80
I think I read that latch is tested for a weight of up to 65 lbs for CHILD AND CARSEAT.... so it depends how heavy your carseat is and when you should switch to the seat belt. Check your manual to be sure

ETA -this link with maxium latch limits based on car model , I do not know how accurate it is, but thought I would post it:
http://www.saferidenews.com/pdfs/LATCHApp_B_pg105.pdf

also found this site which has TONS of info:
http://www.thecarseatlady.com/car_se...g_seats_7.html
post #46 of 80
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Originally Posted by momto l&a View Post
If a child has to stay in a 5 point till they are 80+lbs that would be crazy IMO.

That means I would have been an adult sitting in a booster :

There needs to be a better gage of when to have a child sitting in a 5 point. There are many skinny/thin people out in this world.

I WISH adults had five point harnesses. I would use it in a heartbeat.
post #47 of 80

With Permission From The Miller Family - I have Dedicated A Web Page For Kyle

I have been in contact with the Miller family and with their permission I have dedicated the following page to the memory of their son:

http://www.wheredidrecessgo.com/childrens-safety.html

As a result I did go out and buy (2) 5 point harness boosters from ToysRUs for 69.00 each. They are rated up to 100lbs and have a double latching back up system that latches to the the mounts between the back of the seats and the couch as well as being Teathered and also Lap Belted.

I must say, after looking back on the normal booster seat I have VS the ones I just PROPERLY INSTALLED I only had a level of safety of about 10% on the old ones as opposed to at least a 99% level of safety now.

These things are pretty much MOUNTED into my SUV and It sort of reminds me of a Race Car Drivers Seat. I feel WAY WAY MORE SECURE NOW. You can actually see and feel the STURDY DIFFERENCE.
post #48 of 80
I think it's good b/c most people I know are totally ignorant about the importance of rear-facing and five-point harnesses and how much safer they are. So many act like it's silly, for babies or something.

So, if seatbelts can come undone, does this mean that latch is safer?
post #49 of 80
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Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
I agree to a point. People do need to realize that children should stay in 5-point harnesses as long as possible. They are simply just so much safer. I don't see why this video sending people to buy a carseat to fit their child is a bad thing. I don't think people need to be in fear constantly, but I do think that we should do everything we can to ensure our childrens safety in the car.
Kathyrn, that was very well put. I'm so glad you posted this. How are your triplets?

I bought Regents for both of our daughters and figured out how to get the best deals and so forth. Happily, I sold my Marathons for $125 each and applied that towards the cost.

I suggest going to the http://www.car-seat.org forums to find deals on car seats and to get help with your specific car situation (such as, will a Regent fit). There are a few threads about these videos there.
post #50 of 80
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Originally Posted by Venicewebs View Post
I have been in contact with the Miller family and with their permission I have dedicated the following page to the memory of their son:

http://www.wheredidrecessgo.com/childrens-safety.html

As a result I did go out and buy (2) 5 point harness boosters from ToysRUs for 69.00 each. They are rated up to 100lbs and have a double latching back up system that latches to the the mounts between the back of the seats and the couch as well as being Teathered and also Lap Belted.

I must say, after looking back on the normal booster seat I have VS the ones I just PROPERLY INSTALLED I only had a level of safety of about 10% on the old ones as opposed to at least a 99% level of safety now.

These things are pretty much MOUNTED into my SUV and It sort of
reminds me of a Race Car Drivers Seat. I feel WAY WAY MORE SECURE NOW. You can actually see and feel the STURDY DIFFERENCE.

Veniceweb- Which seat is that?? I didn't know any 5 pt. harnesses went up that high!
post #51 of 80

70 Hours Of Research Later - Here Is The Booster I Chose

I researched this one like crazy and I feel I made a fantastic decision on this one and after mounting them in, THEY ARE TOUGH.

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index...#prod_prodinfo
post #52 of 80
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Originally Posted by Venicewebs View Post
I researched this one like crazy and I feel I made a fantastic decision on this one and after mounting them in, THEY ARE TOUGH.

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index...#prod_prodinfo
that seat only harnesses to 40lbs and then you switch it to a seatbelt booster.. just FYI

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Forward-facing with harness: approx. 22-40 lbs. Belt-positioning booster: approx. 30-100 lbs. and up to approx. 52
post #53 of 80

I thought I used the term Booster

you are correct Patchy, I thought I used the term BOOSTER maybe I mis-spoke, I'll scroll back and see.
post #54 of 80
Butting in here...I've been reading and reading, and feeling more panicky as I go. My dd is 5, about 65 lbs, and about 48 inches tall. I still use the 5 pt harness on her booster seat, even though I know she's over the weight limit. We do have it tethered in and seatbelted. Is there ANY carseat w/ a 5 pt harness that goes over 65 lbs? I really can't afford one, but I really don't want her in just a seatbelt. I have googled til my head is floogled, and they only seem to sell seats that use the lap belt over 65 lbs. I surely can't be the only mother w/ a big child who still needs a car seat.

Thanks,

Liz
post #55 of 80
I saw this video the other day and it scared the crap out of me! I had no idea that boosters could be so unsafe. I showed it to my parents and they went out the next day and bought my two youngest Britax Marathons, which should fit them up to 65 pounds. We did have an Evenflo something or other, which potentially has latch, but was so friggin hard to use we could never get the latch to work.

FYI, you can only use the latch up to 48 pounds though. At least that's what the Britax manual says.

We put my 7yo in a booster. He wasn't in a carseat before and now he is and I have that video to thank. So, I don't think it's overzealous at all. I thank it for *potentially saving my children's lives*
post #56 of 80
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Originally Posted by mama4gals View Post
Butting in here...I've been reading and reading, and feeling more panicky as I go. My dd is 5, about 65 lbs, and about 48 inches tall. I still use the 5 pt harness on her booster seat, even though I know she's over the weight limit. We do have it tethered in and seatbelted. Is there ANY carseat w/ a 5 pt harness that goes over 65 lbs? I really can't afford one, but I really don't want her in just a seatbelt. I have googled til my head is floogled, and they only seem to sell seats that use the lap belt over 65 lbs. I surely can't be the only mother w/ a big child who still needs a car seat.

Thanks,

Liz
Yes, the Regent. My five year old daughter is 46 pounds and 44 inches tall. She fits well in her Regent. My three year old daughter has a very different build. She's about 40 pounds and 40 inches tall, and she fits well in her Regent.

Instead of googling, I suggest going straight to the forums for those obsessed with car seats and tell them your car, your budget, etc. http://www.car-seat.org. There are techs who respond quickly. I almost bought a booster until they persuaded me to buy a Regent instead.
post #57 of 80
Thank you! I took your advice and registered there, and posted a thread. I'll look into the Regent now.

Liz
post #58 of 80
That video was absolutely heartbreaking. I do not see how buying a safer car seat for your child can possibly be a bad thing. No, we can't keep our children in a bubble but isn't it our job as parents to protect them as much as possible? I still have a few years before we have to worry about this. In light of this video I will be putting a few dollars a month into savings so that I can afford to buy her a seat that harnesses to a higher weight when the time comes.
I really don't see how this compares to having your child "live in a bubble" in any way. Living in a bubble implies giving up important life experiences in order to be marginally safer. I dont see how sitting in a belt positioning booster at 3 years old is an important life experience.
post #59 of 80
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Originally Posted by mama4gals View Post
Is there ANY carseat w/ a 5 pt harness that goes over 65 lbs?
Yep, the Britax Regent & also the Radian makes a seat that harnesses up to 80 lbs. now (scroll down on that page to see). Both are quite expensive, though.

We have one of the Radians that goes up to 65 lbs. for DS3 & I think I'll get another for DS2 (who is about 35 lbs. and currently in a seat that goes up to 40 lbs). They're really great seats.
post #60 of 80
I'm one of the least "over-protective" mamas I know. My kids swam in water over their heads without an adult in the pool at 3. They climb trees, play in steams, go out in sea kayaks and walk to the neighbors by themselves.

But, the two older ones sit in Huskys and the 18 month old is still facing backward. Afterall, driving is the most dangerous thing we do.
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