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post #1 of 12
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Here is yet another up-date on my son's old Pedy who forcibly retracted his foreskin at 2 and 4 months. My son is now almost 9 months.
I had my final conversation with him yesterday regarding a problem with my son. My son seemed to have a white 'pimple' on the lip of his foreskin and I wanted to report it to his old Pedy and to decline his invitation to return to the old practice (long story). He mailed me a letter and I thought it best to respond and explain why I left.
I started out by saying that I appreciated all his help with my 2nd child who was born with a debilitating eye disease. I praised him for that and then went on to discuss my son. I told him that my son has a problem which I felt was related to the forced retraction and that I would not feel comfortable returning to his practice. I also told him that I have done a lot of research on the subject of circumcision and found it 'horrific and cruel'. We discussed this subject and the subject of non-retraction. Here are the highlights.
1. I found out his is jewish. His 4 sons were circ'ed by a Rabbi.
2. He actually told me he thought the practice of circumcision was "barbaric" I was stunned by this statement.
3. He said that he has lots of parents come in to discuss prenatal decisions and he told me he tells them.
A. It's not medically neccessary.
B. Most boys are circumcised
c. Ask if the father is circ'd or not. : He reasons that most parents want the boy to "look like dad". ( I replied to this that it was an excuse)
(he left out one very important point.. The agonizing pain for the poor baby)

He then went on to tell me that if the parents decide to keep their baby boy intact he instructs them how to "care for it".
On two occations I told him. "You're not supposed to retract a babies foreskin ever!" and "It doesn't retract" He replied "oh, no.. I've had some newborns retract fine no problem."
I also told him that my son is going to have problems with adhesions because of what he did to him. He told me "You'r son's penis is fine". And here I was explaining to him the proper way to care for it. It requires no maintainance and I won't know if my son will have problems until he retracts it himself. That is when I will teach him to clean it himself.\
I ended the conversation saying that I was staying with Davey's new Pediatrician because of our fundamental differences on correct medical care. I also asked him why all the other authorities; i.e. AAP, Dr.'s, written articles teach "no retraction" and why did he think he was right and they were wrong. He just replies "This is the way I do things. I have been doing this for years.. I have seen many boy babies.
I guess if he has been doing it wrong for this many years he thinks he's right
My friend from D.O.C. is sending him another letter. If he still doesn't get it then I will have to report him to the medical board. I have terminated any relationshiop with this Pedy. I really hope someone can stop him before he does this to other poor unsuspecting babies/parents.
carolyn
post #2 of 12

Bravo!

I hope he will listen to your next correspondence.

But please realize now, that you will be branded as crazy.

Hope you get all the medical records before.

I am very impressed that you are fighting for other babies too.
post #3 of 12
Excellent!!!!! What a way to make a difference!

I remember my first sons visit with the doctor..I actually grabbed his arm and sternly said..."Don't touch it"! LOL It was a knee-jerk reaction that normally isn't me....he said he wouldn't and that it should never be done....but, really a parent never knows what a doctor will or will not do, kwim?

~Charlene~
post #4 of 12
I was busily sending out the warning on the sticky above about protecting your son from medical profs who would retract today. One woman wrote me back to say that she kept her 2 sons intact, protected them from drs, and, then, when her oldest son was 20 y.o. he met a woman who convinced him to be circ'd.

She couldn't believe it and is absolutely incensed---says to warn all you moms of boys to alert their sons to that possibility, too. It's crazy out there.
Baybee
post #5 of 12
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I was busily sending out the warning on the sticky above about protecting your son from medical profs who would retract today. One woman wrote me back to say that she kept her 2 sons intact, protected them from drs, and, then, when her oldest son was 20 y.o. he met a woman who convinced him to be circ'd.

She couldn't believe it and is absolutely incensed---says to warn all you moms of boys to alert their sons to that possibility, too. It's crazy out there.
Baybee
Sorry to hear that, but when my son (who is now 9 months) is 20....circumcision will be "so last century"...I'm sure he will want to be like everyone else...INTACT
post #6 of 12
I don't get why ANY guy would agree to that for a woman? Erm, I'll put myself through pain, decrease my sexual pleasure for the rest of my life so you think I look pretty? WTF?
post #7 of 12
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I don't get why ANY guy would agree to that for a woman? Erm, I'll put myself through pain, decrease my sexual pleasure for the rest of my life so you think I look pretty? WTF?

If men aren't informed about the benifits of a foreskin while growing up, they aren't likely to know that it will cause a decrease in sexual pleasure.
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by baybee View Post
I was busily sending out the warning on the sticky above about protecting your son from medical profs who would retract today. One woman wrote me back to say that she kept her 2 sons intact, protected them from drs, and, then, when her oldest son was 20 y.o. he met a woman who convinced him to be circ'd.

She couldn't believe it and is absolutely incensed---says to warn all you moms of boys to alert their sons to that possibility, too. It's crazy out there.
Baybee
did he make an informed decision and is he happy with it? if so, I dont see what the big deal is.
post #9 of 12
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I don't get why ANY guy would agree to that for a woman? Erm, I'll put myself through pain, decrease my sexual pleasure for the rest of my life so you think I look pretty? WTF?

I don't know. Women do it for men all the time. Breast implants carry the distinct risk of reducing or eliminating sensation in the nipple, which for most women is an errogenous zone (at least when they aren't nursing ). I know it isn't nearly the same as the loss in sexual function experienced after a circumcision, but I'm just pointing out that bizarre cosmetic procedures done to please someone of the opposite sex definitely aren't limited to circumcisions or to men.
post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by Roxswood View Post
I don't get why ANY guy would agree to that for a woman? Erm, I'll put myself through pain, decrease my sexual pleasure for the rest of my life so you think I look pretty? WTF?
I have a friend who did... but at least HE made the decision, yk?

love and peace.
post #11 of 12
Thank you so much for fighting the good fight for other boys.

This guy sounds like he's talking out both sides of his face.
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
Yes! He sounds so differant then when he first learned I wasn't circ'ing my son. I was the one who told him that it wasn't medically necessary

I think he is trying to win me over somehow. On some level he knows that what he did is wrong and he is afraid I might sue him.

The last letter sent to him is really good. It refutes everything he and I talked about the last time and it asks for financial compensation for any future treatment for my son's damaged foreskin.

I'm not letting this drop :
Carolyn
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