mainstream people should have girls - Page 2

[Paper-Bag-Princess]

Originally Posted by Piratemomma

I would hate for a child to be deprived of their genital integrity because their parents believed they deserved to make that choice.

ITA!

This is the defensive argument, imo, that some people use when they see reality from the other side of the fence. They don't want to see the big picture or refuse to even acknowledge it, so they turn around and call others mean:

Sorry, but I really *wish* that parents would stop making this about them, when it's about their sons' rights to genital integrity. It's not about YOU! It's about your son's rights to his whole body, about his rights to make decisions about HIS body. Not YOURS...HIS.

There are plenty of mamas who regret circumcising their son because they did what they believed to be best at that time and with the knowledge that they had. They realize that it's not about them and I firmly believe that when we know better, we do better.

/rant

I honestly hope that people who have children feel blessed to have those children and wouldn't consider harming them in any way. That said, the only reason I would hope that someone would wish that others have girls is because they are saddened that so many boys are circumcised unnecessarily because of myth and fear mongering and the prevalent double standard in our society.

Girls are as wonderful as boys and I consider myself blessed to have my dd and ds. I just wish that some mainstreamers would get on the same page and recognize their double standard for what it is.

[phatchristy]

Originally Posted by con leche

I, personally, don't consider circumcision a "crunchy" vs. "non-crunchy" issue. It's about your son's right to not to be mutilated; a basic human right, I would think.

I agree with this...that was my point when I wrote that about my friend, we happened to meet eachother because she was breastfeeding and trying to conceive. The breastfeeding is the only "crunchy" type thing she does. My point was that it was her doctor who stepped in and educated her...which is from what I hear a lot more common on the west coast.

[TigerTail]

Originally Posted by con leche

I, personally, don't consider circumcision a "crunchy" vs. "non-crunchy" issue. It's about your son's right to not to be mutilated; a basic human right, I would think.

That.

[aisraeltax]

it always makes me sad to hear someone say they are having a boy. i cry each time someone says they are going to circ. its such a cruel, unnecessary, and brutal practice. i really wish it were outlawed in this country. : :

[rowansmomma]

Oh man, big time.....I'm not crunchy at all but I'm probf, anticirc, cosleeping, extended/childled weaning, babywearing........just not organic, grow my own, clothdiapering, antitv.

BUT, I hate thinking about baby boys being born just waiting to have their foreskin cut off........I dreaded my stepsister's baby's birth almost, I knew she'd cut him and not breastfeed either.

Thank goodness my sister is educated on all of this. No circ for her and she's proselfweaningbf!

[Paper-Bag-Princess]

Originally Posted by Paper-Bag-Princess

ITA!

This is the defensive argument, imo, that some people use when they see reality from the other side of the fence. They don't want to see the big picture or refuse to even acknowledge it, so they turn around and call others mean:

Sorry, but I really *wish* that parents would stop making this about them, when it's about their sons' rights to genital integrity. It's not about YOU! It's about your son's rights to his whole body, about his rights to make decisions about HIS body. Not YOURS...HIS.



Girls are as wonderful as boys and I consider myself blessed to have my dd and ds. I just wish that some mainstreamers would get on the same page and recognize their double standard for what it is.

Yes, I'm quoting myself

OT rant:

Just to say that I was not banned from a mainstream site (although I did receive a warning & my ONLY one in over 4 years; gee, wonder who reported that???? wannabe-hall-monitor??LOL! ), although some people are putting it out there like it's fact. I left on my own accord because the double standard and the lying perpetrated by those there was an ongoing hypocrisy to that site. It's called having principles. What's funny is that those perpetrating that LIE (amongst the many other lies) continue to insist that they have never been a party to such things all the while making cruel innuendos and continually boring people to death with their rhetoric and dictionary wars. Internet is a big place people. Claiming innocent is a laugh-riot.

end ot rant/

I believe that children are a gift. What I have a very difficult time understanding is WHY baby boys are not given the same consideration as baby girls. Why do we treat girls with anti-biotics and we treat boys to the scalpel. So, do I wish that these people have little girls? Yes, I do; at least I know that their double standards apply and that little girl would be spared. Not because I think little girls are better or worse, as I wrote before, ALL children are gifts, I just don't know if some people can see (or want to see) the double standard that is so liberally applied when it comes to circumcision.

I'll tell ya, it feels so good to unshackle yourself from the mainstream. The incessant doublespeak and theatrics are of value to only those who wish to squelch and quiet this discussion. I can understand, when faced with reality all one can do is go into defense mode. Pity.