Originally Posted by JuJuBees
okay.. my friend told me to come to this board. i have a 2yo girl and am pregnant with a boy. i never knew you couldn't not circumsize your kid. i figured it was something you had to do. but, anyway, we are pretty sure we want it done so he can look like every other person we know. what's the big deal anyway. from what i understand they don't feel much, they sleep a lot of times, and it helps to prevent a bunch of stuff down the road. i would think it hurts as much as a paper cut, right? i mean.. if it was so horrible would they still do it? i am open to listening to everyone cause really i dont know much about it.
I'm glad you are researching this issue, there are a lot of myths about circumcision, hopefully we can enlighten you.
reasons why you shouldnt circumcise your son:1: There is no medical justification for routine infant circumcision.http://www.racp.edu.au/hpu/paed/circ...on/summary.htm
the Royal Australasian College of Physicians, Australian Association of Paediatric Surgeons, New Zealand Society of Paediatric Surgeons, Urological Society of Australasia, Royal Australasian College of Surgeons,
and Paediatric Society of New Zealand
have all collectively stated:"After extensive review of the literature the RACP reaffirms that there is no medical indication for routine neonatal circumcision"http://www.cps.ca/english/statements/FN/fn96-01.htm
the Canadian Paediatric Society
has stated that "Circumcision of newborns should not be routinely performed."http://www.cirp.org/library/statements/manitoba/
the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Manitoba
has stated: "Specific medical indications for the performance of circumcision in the neonate are rare. There may be benefits to circumcision in the prevention of phimosis, the prevention of urinary tract infection, reduction in the spread of the papillovirus, and the protection of men from infection with the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV). The degree of benefit is small, however, and does not support a recommendation to circumcise neonates."http://www.cirp.org/library/statements/bma2003/
the British Medical Association
has stated: "The BMA considers that the evidence concerning health benefit from non-therapeutic circumcision is insufficient for this alone to be a justification for doing it."http://www.cirp.org/library/statements/aap1999/
the American Academy of Pediatrics
has stated: "Existing scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision; however, these data are not sufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision."
the American Academy of Pediatrics
, and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
have stated: "Existing scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision; however, these data are not sufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision."
in other words: There might be some medical benefits to circumcision, but they do not outweight the risks and losses of circumcision.
you are probably curious what these risks and losses are.The first, is the loss of the foreskin itself.
The foreskin is not merely a flap of skin. It is highly innervated tissue that has some very specific purposes, not all of which are fully understood:sexual
: the foreskin provides extra skin that allows the penis to double in length during an erection. a common complication of circumcision is painful erections due to insuffician skin, and burried penis's if too much skin is removed. The foreskin and glans are both mucosal and provide lubrication during masturbation and intercourse. The "gliding action" of the foreskin also reduces friction for the female during intercourse making it more comfortable and pleasurable. The tissue of the foreskin is highly erogenous providing pleasure for the male, in some males it is the most erogenous part of the body. Circumcision was rare in the western world until the victorian era when doctors in english speaking countries began advocating it to stop maturbation.protective
: it keeps the glans moist, protects the glans from minor injuries, in infancy is protects the glans and urethra from feces and urine in diapers.immunological
: the foreskin produces lysozymes that kill bacteriaother
: the foreskin contains estrogen receptors, the purpose of which is not well understood.The second, is complications from the procedure.http://www.cps.ca/english/statements/FN/fn96-01.htm
according to the Canadian Paediatric Society:"Circumcision may lead to complications, which range from minor to severe. They include easily controllable bleeding, amputation of the glans,acute renal failure, life-threatening sepsis and, rarely, death. The evidence of postoperative complications is unknown. The rates of complications reported in several large case series are low, from 0.2% to 0.6%. However, published rates range as widely as 0.06% to 55%. Williams and Kapila have suggested that a realistic rate is between 2% and 10%."2: Everyone has the right to bodily integrity.Your son has the right to have a foreskin.
Unless your son becomes one of the rare cases where there is a medical reason to remove it, you do not have the right to consent to its removal. If you leave your son intact he can choose to be circumcised later in life, however circumcision is a irreversable procedure.
routine infant circumcision is a cosmetic procedure. you do not have the right to cosmetically alter your sons normal healthy penis any more than you have the right to cosmetically alter any other part of his body. If the father was missing a finger, that would not give you the right to consent to having one of your sons fingers amputated.3: Your baby will feel excruciating pain.
circumcisions are usually performed without anaesthetics because they add risks to the procedure. babies do not fall asleep during a circumcision, they pass out from pain and/or go into a semi comatose state.
babies are fully able to experience pain, possibly even at higher levels than adults do. during a circumcision the foreskin is first ripped from the glans. they are normally attached together at birth similar to how your finger nails attached to your fingers. after this an incision is made which allows the circumcision device to be put in place. then another incision is made which amputates the foreskin. this is NOT a papercut!
several other people have already posted links to videos, please watch them and see for yourself.
something else to note, though it is far less relevant than the other arguments, is that the circumcision rate in the US is currently at 60%, and if you live in the west its down to 35%. your son will not be made fun of by his peers for having an intact penis.