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Originally Posted by Ruthla  Gee, is anybody surprised here? Like they'd ever admit that they're not needed at births, and women are perfectly safe without them?
I like how they phrased the scientific studies: not "studies have been done that prove hospital birth is safer" but rather " We don't like the studies that show out of hospital births are safer, so we'll just phrase that to say you can't prove out-of-hospital births are safe."
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Have you guys seen the movie/read the book
Thank You for Smoking ? Even though it's fictional (based on life) it provided interesting insight into the workings of such interest groups as ACOG.
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Originally Posted by Marilyn82 Here is what I want to know...why does the ACOG think they have the right to make blanket statements regarding the safety of birth and set standards for maternity care? The ACOG is a TRADE UNION, people! That's it...why on earth do they think they are the end-all and be-all for all practitioners, hospitals, etc??? UGH!
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Because anyone can make blanket statements. They say "look we're doctors this is what we say". Most people aren't going to question it. Heck, I even use most doctor organization statements as jumping off points (but that's all)
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Originally Posted by nurnur Oh and they forgot to mention....that with all their wonderful technology the U.S. is ranked 29th in the world in maternal mortality (WHO 2000), and 27th in Infant Mortality (U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services 2004). Of course they have fancy words to explain that aways too. Ya, that's the care that seems safest to me....
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Here here! I just LOOOOOVe how no OB care people ever point that out. That data is available thru Mothers’ Index and State of the World’s Mothers 2006 report too, but the way the healthy mother initiative thing is written you see how dangerous birth *can* be, but you have to really dig and think to discover that the US is pitiful compared to most other developed nations. We need an
indepth report exclusive of developed nations to really advance and streamline women's care. The healthy mother initiatve is great for what it does, but it won't help us.
http://www.savethechildren.org/publi...2006_final.pdf
We get ranked #10 tied with the UK because they take into account the following:
lifetime risk of maternal mortality
percent of women using modern contraception
percent of births attended by skilled personnel
percent of pregnant women with anemia
adult female literacy rate
participation of women in national government
infant mortality rate
gross primary enrollment rate
percent of population with access to safe water, and
percent of children under age 5 suffering from moderate to severe nutritional wasting
Emphasis mine- our ranking of perinatal safety is skewed )
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Originally Posted by BeckiCNM ACNM is preparing a statement, it hasn't been released yet. They are trying to team with other associations like the APHA to strengthen the response. I will suggest that the AABC be approached, too. I think you are absolutely right that FSBC's are at risk here as well.
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Can't wait to read it!
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