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post #141 of 198
Somehow I can't imagine getting "wired" from yeast. I'd just like to be able to get through a normal day without crashing!
post #142 of 198
I wanted to bump this thread--I didn't participate at the time because I knew we'd be traveling for most of December. December is always my most stressful time, quite aside from the holidays, and I felt like crud throughout--and was having real anger management problems, which is rare for me. To my horror, this continued even after all the holiday stress-inducers went away. So I tried some frozen raw liver and Oh. My. God., overnight I felt so much better. I've now been doing it for two weeks, and the energy and calm has been amazing. Interestingly, I forgot to do it for the first time this morning, and I feel strangely tense--though that could be psychosomatic.

I've been doing about an ounce (roughly; I just eyeball it) every morning. Should I worry about overdosing? Does it matter if I'm on a pre-TTC diet? Also, we've been out of CLO for the month, and so I haven't been taking that, but should I do both CLO and the liver, or would that be overkill?
post #143 of 198
Thread Starter 
That's great news, phroggies! My husband and I have been taking the freeze dried liver for a couple of weeks and it is making a big difference in energy and ability to handle stress.

I would think that liver plus some sunshine would be enough, but it's individual and hard to say.

Do you defrost the liver and then cut it into pieces?
post #144 of 198

Why we shouldnt use Brewer's Yeast

Why we shouldnt use Brewer's Yeast

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If youre using NT for your bread recipes, then Im sure you have seen
this; but the conversation here gave me excuse to type it out for
another friend of mine anyway ) The following quotes are on pages 489
& 491 of Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon.

"The history of breadmaking is a good example of the industrialization &
standardization of a technique that was formerly empiric....It was
simpler to replace natural leavening with Brewers Yeast. There are
numerous practical advantages: the fermentation is more regular, more
rapid and the bread rises better. But the fermentation becomes mainly
alcoholic fermentation and the acidification is greatly lessened. The
bread (with Brewers Yeast) is less digestable, less tasty and spoils
more easily." ~ Claude Aubert Les Aliments Fermente's Traditionnels

"In books on baking and even in nutritional/medical writings, the two
techniques {for making bread}, natural leaven (sourdough) and baker's
yeast, are often mingled and confounded....baking with natural leaven is
in harmony with nature and maintains the integrity and nutrition of the
cereal grains used....The process helps to increase and reinforce our
body's absorption of the cereal nutrients. Unlike yeasted bread that
diminishes, even destroys, much of the grains nutritional value,
naturally leavened bread does not stale and, as it ages, maintains its
original moisture much longer. Alot of that information was known
pragmatically for centuries; and thus when yeast was first intorduced in
France at the court of louis XIV in March 1668, because at that time the
scientists already knew that the use of yeast would imperil the peoples
health, it was strongly rejected. Today, yeast is used almost
universally, without any testing; and the recent scientific evidence and
clinical findings are confirming the ancient taboos with biochemical and
bioelectronic valid proofs that wholly support that age old common sense
decision. " ~ Jaques DeLangre
post #145 of 198
Is Brewer's different than "Nutritional yeast"? I had a BAAAAD reaction to nutritional yeast a long time ago when mostly vegan and cooking with weird things like this. (throat closing up)

I'm loving my liver capsules.
post #146 of 198
If you're allergic to brewer's yeast then it's obviously not a good thing for you to be taking! I'm pretty sure that "brewer's yeast' and "nutritional yeast" are pretty much the same thing.

Farmschooler- that's interesting about the yeast, but I still wonder if it's truly applicable to the way we're talking about using yeast on this thread. We're not talking about baking with yeast, we're just talking about consuming plain yeast as a nutritional supplement/superfood, so it's not going to affect the digestability of the nutrients in bread or anything else. The link you quoted didn't talk about the nutritional qualities of the yeast itself, when used plain or sprinkled onto already cooked foods.

I've been taking my yeast most days, but I finally found some kosher liver again!! I bought 4 1lb packages, but I won't cook any of them until next week when the kids are back at school (well, 2 of them anyway. )
post #147 of 198
Yeah I need some extra b vitamins so I'm going to start with the liver too. I finally found some good quality livers at Wild Oats, so I'm glad about that. I'll see how this goes.
post #148 of 198
Can I jump in here with a question or two? I have been lurking in this thread for a while and contemplating starting to eat liver.

DH and I just purchased a lamb, and I discovered that the lamb liver is quite large. How does lamb liver compare to chicken and/or beef, which I assume are the two most common livers eaten among this group?

Can/Should I eat this liver while newly pregnant?

Thanks!
post #149 of 198
Thread Starter 
Susan,

I've been looking at research on beef and lamb liver lately and lamb is at least as good, if not a little bit better.

I would eat it pregnant.

Amanda
post #150 of 198

Lamb Liver

Nutrition Facts for cooked Lamb Liver

Amount Per 1 oz, cooked
Calories 61.09
Calories from Fat 22.02

% Daily Value *

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Total Fat 2.45g 4%

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Saturated Fat 0.947g 5%

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Polyunsaturated Fat 0.364g

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Monounsaturated Fat 0.511g

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Cholesterol 139.11mg 46%

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Sodium 105.95mg 4%

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Potassium 61.38mg 2%

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Total Carbohydrate 0.702g 0%

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Dietary Fiber 0g 0%

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Protein 8.49g 17%

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Alcohol 0g


Vitamin A 139 % Vitamin C 2 %

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Calcium 0 % Iron 13 %

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Vitamin D 0 % Vitamin E 0 %

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Thiamin 3 % Riboflavin 56 %

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Niacin 17 % Folate 5 %

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Vitamin B-6 7 % Vitamin B-12 354 %

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Phosphorus 12 % Magnesium 2 %

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Zinc 15 % Copper 98 %

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*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.

Ingredients
Ingredient Name Amount Units Processing
Lamb, variety meats and by-products, liver, cooked, braised 28 grams No Processing
Salt, table 0.235 grams No Processing
post #151 of 198

Chicken Liver

Nutrition Facts

Amount Per 1 cup, cooked, diced
Calories 385.25
Calories from Fat 133.66

% Daily Value *

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Total Fat 14.85g 23%

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Saturated Fat 4.15g 21%

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Polyunsaturated Fat 3.37g

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Monounsaturated Fat 4.85g

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Cholesterol 980.03mg 327%

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Sodium 886.97mg 37%

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Potassium 448.18mg 13%

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Total Carbohydrate 18.61g 6%

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Dietary Fiber 0.388g 2%

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Protein 41.6g 83%

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Alcohol 0g


Vitamin A 688 % Vitamin C 101 %

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Calcium 3 % Iron 105 %

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Vitamin D 0 % Vitamin E 9 %

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Thiamin 15 % Riboflavin 200 %

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Niacin 86 % Folate 354 %

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Vitamin B-6 51 % Vitamin B-12 684 %

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Phosphorus 56 % Magnesium 10 %

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Zinc 46 % Copper 45 %

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*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
post #152 of 198

Beef Liver

Nutrition Facts

Amount Per 1 oz, cooked
Calories 60.25
Calories from Fat 19.99

% Daily Value *

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Total Fat 2.22g 3%

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Saturated Fat 0.741g 4%

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Polyunsaturated Fat 0.475g

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Monounsaturated Fat 0.45g

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Cholesterol 133.84mg 45%

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Sodium 119.83mg 5%

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Potassium 101.09mg 3%

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Total Carbohydrate 2.18g 1%

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Dietary Fiber 0g 0%

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Protein 7.42g 15%

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Alcohol 0g


Vitamin A 201 % Vitamin C 11 %

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Calcium 0 % Iron 10 %

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Vitamin D 0 % Vitamin E 0 %

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Thiamin 3 % Riboflavin 57 %

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Niacin 20 % Folate 15 %

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Vitamin B-6 20 % Vitamin B-12 517 %

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Phosphorus 13 % Magnesium 2 %

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Zinc 10 % Copper 62 %

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*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
post #153 of 198

Goats Liver

Nutrition Facts

Amount Per 1 cup, cooked, diced
Calories 297.38
Calories from Fat 142.26

% Daily Value *

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Total Fat 15.81g 24%

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Saturated Fat 6.12g 31%

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Polyunsaturated Fat 2.36g

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Monounsaturated Fat 3.3g

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Cholesterol 616.01mg 205%

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Sodium 561.74mg 23%

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Potassium 439.91mg 13%

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Total Carbohydrate 4.72g 2%

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Dietary Fiber 0g 0%

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Protein 31.9g 64%

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Alcohol 0g


Vitamin A 650 % Vitamin C 27 %

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Calcium 1 % Iron 71 %

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Vitamin D 0 % Vitamin E 2 %

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Thiamin 22 % Riboflavin 287 %

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Niacin 104 % Folate 125 %

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Vitamin B-6 59 % Vitamin B-12 1785 %

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Phosphorus 53 % Magnesium 7 %

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Zinc 47 % Copper 614 %

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*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
post #154 of 198

Pork Liver

Nutrition Facts

Amount Per 1 oz, cooked
Calories 45.82
Calories from Fat 11

% Daily Value *

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Total Fat 1.22g 2%

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Saturated Fat 0.392g 2%

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Polyunsaturated Fat 0.292g

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Monounsaturated Fat 0.175g

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Cholesterol 98.57mg 33%

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Sodium 104.01mg 4%

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Potassium 41.67mg 1%

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Total Carbohydrate 1.04g 0%

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Dietary Fiber 0g 0%

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Protein 7.22g 14%

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Alcohol 0g


Vitamin A 100 % Vitamin C 11 %

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Calcium 0 % Iron 28 %

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Vitamin D 0 % Vitamin E 0 %

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Thiamin 4 % Riboflavin 30 %

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Niacin 12 % Folate 11 %

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Vitamin B-6 8 % Vitamin B-12 86 %

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Phosphorus 7 % Magnesium 1 %

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Zinc 12 % Copper 9 %

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*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
post #155 of 198
Hey Amanda,
Just jumped in at the end so sorry if this has been covered. I'm thinking of trying raw liver after freezing it the 14 days since cooked liver has been a no go for me. How do you eat your raw liver and do you use a chaser? If so, what?

Thanks,
post #156 of 198
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Originally Posted by Gale Force View Post
Do you defrost the liver and then cut it into pieces?
Hrrm. . . no, I've been hacking off thin slices while it's still frozen. It's kind of a PITA, but I actually like the flavor.
post #157 of 198
Thread Starter 
Hey Moneca. I haven't eaten it raw, I just keep intending to. We get ours frozen like a brick and someone suggested an electric knife to cut it. That's as far as I've gotten.
post #158 of 198
I'm feeling really depressed again today. Things have been super stressful around her- with my girls' dad being in the hospital, me being worried about him plus worried about finances- if he can't pay child support how can I pay my own bills?

I've got liver thawing in the fridge right now, but I just don't feel like eating anything at all. I could probably tolerate something very sugary followed by a nice nap.
post #159 of 198
Thanks Amamda. I did eat about one ounce grated/raw last week and it was easier to swallow than cooked - go figure.
post #160 of 198
Thread Starter 
Hey ladies. Sorry I've been away from MDC for about a week.

Ruth -- I understand the sugary and the nap. Eat the liver too and focus on the nap part. The bill thing hasn't happened yet. More liver now will help you handle whatever is coming. If it's nothing, then you can do spring cleaning with your energy.
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