Originally Posted by newcastlemama
I absolutely saw a lot of depression among the extreme. I lived in a macrobiotic (basically vegan, with tiny amounts of some fish at times) community for a long time and was macro for several years. i was also vegan and veg at various times (just part of my long hippie life). There used to be a running joke at how cantakerous macros were. Even fellow macros would joke about it. "Have some dairy' we'd laugh when people got too uptight. Which was frequently as I recall.
I think about all it takes to produce a lb of tofu, and then I consider how little it takes to nosh a hardboiled egg from one of my neighbor's happy hens.
Don't get me wrong, I still love tofu, and I use miso and tempeh all the time. It's not a rejection of those foods, but an embracing of the variety.
I think it's important to understand, too, that not all soil is depleted. And soil can be rejuvenated. A b12 lack isn't a given, esp if you're looking at the sort of soil that can exist in the PolyFarm mode. And the sort of soil I have in my garden. Factory farming depletes, but TF people totally reject factory farming on all levels. TF people will probably do more for soil protection and health than any group out there. Without well cared for animal droppings, there is no great soil to grow the veggies and grain.
And prior to agriculture, nomadic peoples were not vegetarian. It's nice to think people just lived on berries, but they also ate things that had eyes.