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[caedmyn]

Originally Posted by lunadoula

Curing Hep B with Vitamin C??? I would love to see some research on that because to be honest that sounds like a lot of quackary to me. If it worked why would anyone even HAVE Hep B? And I do herbs/chiro/homeopathics/etc. so it's not like I'm "mainstream," but in the conditions Becca described there is no way I'd be relying on Vitamin C dude. : Btw Becca thank you for your post because wow, really makes me appreciate the public health system in a whole new way.

You'll just have to read the book and make up your own mind. I don't understand why allopathic medicine doesn't embrace natural vitamin A supplementation for preventation/treatment of rubella and other viral diseases, or nutrition in general, either

[Awaken]

Originally Posted by Plummeting

And I guess you could say that I have a rather strong philosophical problem with the concept of forcing newborns to get a vaccine that causes demyelinating disorders so that IV drug users can afford their Hep B vaxes.

:Puke inexcusable.

My ped told me (after I said I was declining hep b for my ds) that it was one of the most important ones, since it can easily be contracted by touching. :

[mamakay]

To be fair, it's also to make it more affordable for anyone on earth who might need it

https://www.sgm.ac.uk/pubs/micro_today/pdf/050005.pdf

Hepatitis B is effectively a sexually transmitted disease
in developed countries, but is endemic in other parts of
the world such as Africa, or particularly China.

Hepatitis B vaccines were initially targeted at specific at
risk groups, including healthcare workers and business
travellers, and were made either from antigen from the
plasma of infected donors or from antigen expressed in
genetically modified organisms, such as yeast. They were
(and remain) expensive, but have now been incorporated
into global vaccination programmes, including universal
usage in most developed countries as the impact on
incidence following targeted use was not great. The
usage in developed countries can therefore subsidize that
in developing countries, but only if valid and recognizable
uses in wealthy markets exist.

[Plummeting]

Originally Posted by itsybitsy25

My ped told me (after I said I was declining hep b for my ds) that it was one of the most important ones, since it can easily be contracted by touching. :

Are you serious? What a liar. And they wonder why parents don't trust them. If he's right, then my whole family must be mutants or something, because several members caught Hep B at birth from their mother, but they didn't give it to anyone else but their spouses (during unprotected sex) who all recovered w/o treatment. We're talking about over 20 people here, who did NOT catch Hep B during decades of living with infected people.

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by itsybitsy25

My ped told me (after I said I was declining hep b for my ds) that it was one of the most important ones, since it can easily be contracted by touching. :

That's even better than the "your child may sit on a needle in a darkened movie theatre" line.

Did you put this in my ped scaremongering/lie thread?

[Plummeting]

Originally Posted by lunadoula

Curing Hep B with Vitamin C??? I would love to see some research on that because to be honest that sounds like a lot of quackary to me. If it worked why would anyone even HAVE Hep B?

Well, the same could be said for selenium, but there's been plenty of research in peer-reviewed journals to show that selenium can prevent both acute and chronic Hep B infection. That's why they added selenium to the table salt in certain regions of China that had a huge Hep B problem. Why should vitamin C be any different? Also, there is a difference between the recommended RDI and a therapeutic dose of anything. So to answer the question, people would have Hep B because they don't know how to prevent or treat it, basically. Your question is the same as saying, "If herb X, which is easily available at any HFS cures disease X, why would anyone have disease X?" Why do you believe herbs can have healing properties, but not vitamins?

Originally Posted by Yo Becca

This group is such a treasure trove of information! My reasons for concern about HepB are related to the info discussed above, although I've learned even more from this discussion. While it doesn't seem to be a big threat in the US, and if we were living there full-time I'd decline it, it is very prevalent in China. The horizontal transmission info is very alarming. And it's obviously spreading beyond IV drug users or unprotected sexual partners.

Yo Becca, I definitely understand your concern. I would be concerned, too, in your situation.

[Awaken]

Originally Posted by LongIsland

That's even better than the "your child may sit on a needle in a darkened movie theatre" line.

Did you put this in my ped scaremongering/lie thread?

actually I knew that thread would depress me too much so I haven't read it. I guess I will go make my contribution! The sad thing is, she is known as the ped around here who accomodates non vaxers and alternate schedules, and just lately she's been pushing the vax's and does not at all seem supportive any more. It's such a shame. I wonder what happened.

[Deborah]

No, it is actually a pretty funny thread, in a bizarre sort of way. A shock cure for anyone who still has faith in doctors and nurses as a block (individuals can, of course, be outstandingly good).

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by Deborah

No, it is actually a pretty funny thread, in a bizarre sort of way.

And I even did recaps (beginning on page 22) if the reader doesn't have time to go through the entire thread which make it even funnier!

[Awaken]

Originally Posted by Deborah

No, it is actually a pretty funny thread, in a bizarre sort of way. A shock cure for anyone who still has faith in doctors and nurses as a block (individuals can, of course, be outstandingly good).

Originally Posted by LongIsland

And I even did recaps (beginning on page 22) if the reader doesn't have time to go through the entire thread which make it even funnier!

Can anyone provide a link? It's impossible to search for anything anymore!

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by itsybitsy25

Can anyone provide a link? It's impossible to search for anything anymore!

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=446739

[rikiamber]

so it would be okay to say get one vax a month maybe? and the combo shots individually? could that in theory help lessen the side effects?