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Sarah Ann I am really impressed with your contract/policy and feel like mine would be very similar. Would you be okay with me using it as a guide/outline to make my own contract?
No problem.
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So, I have been away from this thread for a while, and just wanted to ask how you mamas end a long term relationship with your families? I am actually getting out of doing in home childcare. I thought I would be doing it for a few more years, but a friend of mine talked me into visiting the preschool that she works at, and I ended up interviewing there for a substitute position today, and it sounds like I will be working about 20 hours a week as a sub for now and it will most likely lead to a full time position by summer. It sounds like a great fit, and I think my son will thrive there, so I am going to take the job. I want to give my mama a month's notice to find adequate childcare for her son. I realize I really only HAVE to give two weeks, but I told the preschool director that I wanted to give her a month and she was ok with that.

How do you go about giving notice? I am feeling so badly about it, but this really is such a good move for us financially and developmentally for my son. My pay will double, and I will have tons of opportunities to do evening babysitting for the parents as well to make up for the weeks that I won't be working as many hours at the preschool. My son's tuition at the school will be half price because I am working there, and I will be receiving a state subsidy that will pay for the entire tuition, so he will be attending free of charge.

I guess I am really trying to make myself feel better about closing my doors to a family that I have had for over a year now. I am so sad to see this little boy go, but I need to do what is right for my family first. *sigh*
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Congratulations on the preschool position, Kim!

Sounds like a perfect fit for you and your son. Any chance there is a spot for your dcb there during the day? Any chance you could still look after him after hours, since you said you'd be doing evening babysitting....

Giving notice is hard because one does bond with the little ones and their parents. I suggest the following:

--Write a letter that states the last day of care you can provide, the reason for the termination, and your regrets. I would also state that the mom can leave care early if she finds the right place, in these circumstances, without paying out the month, but you have to do what you can.

-- Give the parent the letter at pickup on a Friday (tomorrow would be great) since that gives her the weekend to process this and to get started on looking for a new caregiver. Tell her what is in the letter when you give it to her.

-- Talk to the mom about transitioning the little one out of care. I often plan a playdate or two over the month following the end of care because it is hard for one's own children as well as the dc child to have those relationships end abruptly.

-- If you have a network of child care providers in your area, you could offer the mom suggestions about finding a new caregiver.

--- I always give a little gift to the child on the child's last day. Usually a copy of a book the child loves at my home inscribed to the child.

Good luck! Do let us know how it goes.
post #584 of 733
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Congratulations on the preschool position, Kim!

Sounds like a perfect fit for you and your son. Any chance there is a spot for your dcb there during the day? Any chance you could still look after him after hours, since you said you'd be doing evening babysitting....

Giving notice is hard because one does bond with the little ones and their parents. I suggest the following:

--Write a letter that states the last day of care you can provide, the reason for the termination, and your regrets. I would also state that the mom can leave care early if she finds the right place, in these circumstances, without paying out the month, but you have to do what you can.

-- Give the parent the letter at pickup on a Friday (tomorrow would be great) since that gives her the weekend to process this and to get started on looking for a new caregiver. Tell her what is in the letter when you give it to her.

-- Talk to the mom about transitioning the little one out of care. I often plan a playdate or two over the month following the end of care because it is hard for one's own children as well as the dc child to have those relationships end abruptly.

-- If you have a network of child care providers in your area, you could offer the mom suggestions about finding a new caregiver.

--- I always give a little gift to the child on the child's last day. Usually a copy of a book the child loves at my home inscribed to the child.

Good luck! Do let us know how it goes.
There is a good chance that I will actually be able to care for him part time once I start, as I will only be doing two days a week for a while, with the occasional full week to fill in for teachers who are taking vacation time. I will definitely offer her those days to help her find care. I most likely will not be able to help her with evening hours, as I will be at the preschool from 7:30-5:30 each day that I am there. They are a preschool/daycare type place so they have after school hours.

I so wish I could give her notice today, but she is away for a long weekend and will not be back until Wednesday. I will have her son for about two hours on Wednesday next week. I will definitely have a typed letter for her and let her know what is in it. That is a good idea. I think it will soften the blow a bit to her.

Helping her to find care is a good idea too. I have a friend who just offered to help out if she could find a provider right away. She used to work in a preschool, but has been a SAHM for about 6 months now, so she has some free time. She is not looking to become a permanent provider, but she would definitely be a good choice while they look if they can't find care right away. I think between my months notice, and her care, they should be able to find something. Maybe not the ideal provider, but at least find care while they get on some waiting lists. I am not positive, but I don't think they are on any lists right now.

As for the place I am working, there is a 3 year wait list right now, so definitely no spots for her son. Plus, I am pretty sure he would not do well there. He is super sensitive guy, and has a hard time in group situations. There can be as many as 20 kids there at a time, which would overwhelm him, I think.

I also like the idea of doing some play dates to help the kids ease the transition too. Both boys will have a hard time not seeing each other regularly, I am sure. I will also do a small gift for him too. He already has a copy of the book that is his favorite, so I will have to think on that one. Maybe a toy that he really likes? I don't know. Definitely something good to think about.

Thank you so much for your response. You seem like such a great care provider, your kiddos are lucky!

As a side note, I am so excited to have my house back as just ours. I think my son will do so well at the new place, and it will be nice to not have to worry about him sharing some of his more treasured toys here. He has a hard time sharing a few of his things, and it is hard to take them away from both boys.

The new place is so beautiful too. We went for a trial day today, and my son just seemed to be thriving there. He played in the indoor sandbox, painted a picture, worked in the oatmeal sensory table, played out in the snow, curled up with some kids to hear a story, watched lunch be made while he stood on a stool at the counter, and generally had an absolute blast watching all of the other kids do their thing. I think it will be such a good place for him to be. It is so nurturing there, and their emphasis on natural toys and self directed play is just what I was looking for. There is no way I could afford a place like that on my income, but working there is making it a formerly impossible dream come true for me. :
post #585 of 733
What a great opportunity for you & your son! And what a nice feeling of having your home back. I have 3 pack n plays set up (one in my room & two in my daughter's room, which is super small) and I can hardly remember otherwise. They take up so much room though.

Good luck in this new transition. I like the letter idea so it's not so confrontational, but I also think just sitting down and having a nice little chat with her upon pick up would be okay, since it is your only daycare mom.
post #586 of 733
So, giving my client notice ended up going very well. I didn't end up giving her a written letter, as I didn't get access to a printer (mine is dead) before I needed to let her know. She took it well, and I gave her the names of two friends of mine who are looking to provide care in their homes, and are willing to take her son when we are done. They are both fabulous mamas, and she said she was most likely going to use them while she puts her name on waiting lists for care closer to her home.

I decided to make her a photo book with pics of her son and a few of mine as well as a going away gift. I think it will be a nice way to remember his time here, and also a great way for me to get a bunch of the super cute pictures to her that I have of him. I have emailed some to her over the year and a half that I have had him, but I like that these will be all together in a book.

Good luck to all the other care providers on here! I may check in once in a while to say hello!
post #587 of 733
Heh, I had no idea this thread was here. I've been "babysitting" for friends for a few years now. It works out pretty well for the most part, but there are definitely things I've learned along the way. Reading about the contracts has been *awesome*.

I've only skimmed the last few pages but I subbed & will read more tomorrow.

Q: Do any of you have insurance specifically for your childcare biz? I'm not licensed & am not really interested in becoming so, but I admit, I do worry about insurance upon occasion - especially if I branch out to non-friends.
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Hey there-
I'm subbing and joining in...
I have just started my home childcare business up again after a more than 10 year hiatus~~ Back when my oldest 2 children were just toddlers I had a pretty good income this way...I think I had as many as 7 extra kids in addition to my own at one point. Then I got pregnant with my 3rd and ended up on bedrest for most of my pregnancy and the whole thing fell apart and never really got off the ground again~~
I am very excited to start up again. I have had 1 part timer for about a month and am 90% sure I will be starting with another part timer and a full timer after the holidays. I have been reading the thread getting info on everyone's contracts. It definately worked against me to not have one when I started with my part timer. His Mom and I Have had a few issues already and I don't want to have any confusion with future clients.
The house we live in now (which we are planning to buy) has a completely unfinished lower level which would be an amazing daycare area if all goes well with this, so I'm making lots of plans (while crossing my fingers and toes).
I'm working on a web site to help with my advertising and will have to post the link to get some feedback when I feel brave enough to let people look at it
post #589 of 733
OK....here is the link to the site I'm working on

http://sunflowerhill.webs.com/index.htm


I would love feedback it terms what else it should have included
just be gentle with me
does anyone have a "childcare philosophy" written up?
something that lets potential clients know what type of place you are running so that there aren't conflicts of interest/discipline style etc??
I'd would like to ad that to my site and also have a printed out copy to give parents, but i'm sort of at a loss on how to start~~~
post #590 of 733
I don't see the link to your site, celtic angel?

re: childcare philosophy

http://www.freewebs.com/sharonsdayhome/index.htm

I have bits and pieces of the philosophy on the curriculum, child guidance and other policy pages, but no one statement (which would be good to have actually. I'm a very wordy person and have to edit for hours to achieve anything concise. My site tends to attract clients who like to read, lol!)

Also, good luck Pumpkin Pie! Please do come back and tell us what life is like as a home provider turned preschool teacher.

Irl, i tend to stalk friends who work in preschools because they usually have great ideas from the centres that I can adapt to home childcare.
post #591 of 733
I'm a home child care provider in western massachusetts, near VT and NH. It's great to be able to be home with my kids!
I'm also working on another business from home, so I don't need to change diapers and pick up cheerios all day, but I still love kids!
post #592 of 733
I'm so glad I found this tribe!! I am thinking about opening an informal at-home arts-based daycare/preschool program.

Will be back later to read and write more!
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Do any of you do overnights? I have a family that's thinking about leaving their 3yo with me for a few days while they vacation. How much do you charge for this, relative to how much you charge usually per child? (I know it varies by area, just asking like if you charge for the sleeping part, etc.)
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I charge roughly $50 for overnights.
post #595 of 733
I very very rarely do overnights -- haven't needed the $$ enough to give up my family time (knock wood). I'd have to cancel my older children's activities as I don't drive with daycare children.

In the past, I have charged an hourly rate of $7. This is in addition to any daily fee for a child in care during the day.

Now, I'd probably charge a similar fee for a one-shot for a family I already knew well.

To make it worth while to do it regularly? I'd have to charge at least $10/hr, I think!
post #596 of 733
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I'm so glad I found this tribe!! I am thinking about opening an informal at-home arts-based daycare/preschool program.

Will be back later to read and write more!
I'd love to hear more, binspired (great user name!).

I try to do an educational program and am taking early childhood courses towards an early childhood credential -- I think I'm strong on literature, ok on art, weakish on music, so I'd like to learn more.

I have some art appreciation curriculum I bought a while ago based on activities you do with postcards of great artwork and haven't even started with it yet
post #597 of 733
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I'd love to hear more, binspired (great user name!).

I try to do an educational program and am taking early childhood courses towards an early childhood credential -- I think I'm strong on literature, ok on art, weakish on music, so I'd like to learn more.

I have some art appreciation curriculum I bought a while ago based on activities you do with postcards of great artwork and haven't even started with it yet
Thanks!

I have my Master's degree in Art Education and taught art for 2 years prior to staying home with my children, and I am anxious to get back into art education, but I don't want to go back to teaching in a public school and I don't want to leave my children. My ultimate dream would be to have an arts center in my home (and our new home has the perfect space for it - YAY!) where I could teach art classes and hold workshops for all ages. And I would especially love to have kids classes and "mommy/daddy and me" classes. So I'm not sure that it would really be classified as a preschool? But anyway, I need to wait for my kids to grow a bit before going full scale. I'm thinking I will start with an at home day care for now and get my "art education fix" doing lots of arts activities with the kids while building up a client base and good reputation in the community.

I, of course, and partial to visual arts, but I did my Master's thesis on integrating children's literature into art education. I became quite obsessed with picture books as art objects for awhile! : But I would love to incorporate music and dance as well. All of these art forms are so interconnected - I don't think you could have an adequate art program without touching on each of them.

I'm jealous that you are taking classes - I really miss college! I should definitely look into taking some in Early Childhood Ed.

What is the name of that curriculum? It sounds great!
post #598 of 733
My Masters and almost-complete-which-counts-for-very-little PhD was in English language and lit. I did some college teaching, but would need an educational credential to teach children/preschool here. So I'm working on it very slowly....

I have a friend who followed a similar path to the one you are contemplating, binspired. She has the art education background, did home child care, then specialized into an arts-intensive waldorf-y homeschool-y one, now is in a different space and offering some specialized art classes. I've posted a link to her site on here before, but here's the link again:

http://www.earthmamaearthchild.com/

She runs a really great program.


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What is the name of that curriculum? It sounds great!
(taking books off shelf, blowing dust off them, reading the title...)

Child -size masterpieces

Here is a link I just found to a blog reviewing them.

http://harmonyartmom.blogspot.com/20...ow-to-use.html

I think I'm intimidated by the need to cut out the cards Maybe I should just go to Staples this weekend and use their paper cutter....
post #599 of 733
can i jump back to the overnights for minute? To the mama who charges $50, is that for a 24 hr period? How much do you charge regularly during the day (to put it into some perspective for me).

aubergine - you charge $7 while they are asleep? Is that how much you charge normally during the day? (also just trying to get perspective! I know rates can vary so much area to area )
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aubergine - you charge $7 while they are asleep? Is that how much you charge normally during the day? (also just trying to get perspective! I know rates can vary so much area to area )
Yes that is/was my reg hourly rate. It actually worked out to about twice what my daily rate was at that time, for the overnight portion alone.

As I said, I don't want to do overnights, really.

ETA I think a proportional rate would be fair for overnights. Like, if you are open 10 hours a day regularly, then your overnight would be the equivalent of your daily rate times 14 hours (at least)

ETA again -- sorry that wasn't clear. Everyone woke up just as I was typing that!

I think that if the straight hourly rate seems too high for overnights, maybe prorating your daily rate to come up with an average rate per hour and multiplying it by the number of hours might also make sense.

Like if I charged $7 as an hourly rate but $40/8 hours as a daily rate, a prorated hourly rate would be $5. Multiply that by the number of hours the child would be in care overnight?
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