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post #41 of 209
I am just SPEECHLESS! My heart is racing right now I am so angry on your behalf. I am just so sorry you experienced that. Why would God create a way for us to feed babies that was shameful or indecent? Did he just expect that women would have to hide everytime their baby wanted to eat? : I think you did the brave and right thing by leaving the church. I would have done the same thing. I am so sorry for this!
post #42 of 209
HOLY Cow! that's absolutely terrible. I'm glad you went off on them (and I don't usually say that). Good for you for standing up. That's terrible.

Absolutely complain to higher ups - He called you a prostitute? NICE!

And I love the idea of adding nursing madonnas to your My Space account. You could start a whole campaign.

That church sounds like a terrible place and you and your DH deserve better than that. There are many Christian places where you would be welcome. The only person I know who nursed her kid longer than me is my sister and the lady in the church nursery.
post #43 of 209
Thread Starter 
I have the number for the church main office and an email/address but no email for my specific pastor. I'm going to write them today as soon as I can gather my thoughts and speak intelligently. I'm going to call the church and demand a copy of the recording, as far as I know they recorded the whole conversation...he said it was for if anyone asked questions later.

Now that I'm calmer and can replay the conversation better, I recall him saying so you think 'this' *gesture to the pictures* is normal? I said "Well yeah." and then he said that sex is normal would I do that in public and thats when I said that breastfeeding is NOT sexual, it's me feeding my child and he read some Bible verses that say that breasts are for the husbands delight. Blah blah blah...I need that tape, I was so mad last night I don't recall half of what was said.
post #44 of 209
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Originally Posted by JamesMama View Post
I said "Well yeah." and then he said that sex is normal would I do that in public and thats when I said that breastfeeding is NOT sexual, it's me feeding my child and he read some Bible verses that say that breasts are for the husbands delight. Blah blah blah...I need that tape, I was so mad last night I don't recall half of what was said.
Does he really want you to email him the many passages that talk about how wonderful breastfeeding is?

Isn't there one about ostriches that's particulary apt?
post #45 of 209
I don't know if this helps, but I told my husband, who is a pastor, about this, and he was absolutely appalled. I really hope you follow through with the church "chain of command" on this one. Scripture also says that God nurtures us like a mother nursing her child. God can hardly be compared to a prostitute.
post #46 of 209
Wow, I'm just amazed a church would do this! Definatly get the tape and call the higher ups. They were acting very unchristian with what they did to you and your friends.

God bless and I hope you find a church that welcomes you in every way!
post #47 of 209
Would it be duplicitous to pray for them all the time thinking, 'burning coals, burning coals...' Sigh. What arseholish behavior. You ROCK for telling them where to get off.

I thought it would be something like my neighbor pastor's wife getting told not to bf in church (bad enough) and 'having' to start ff- but you got the full-fledged crazy behavior. Would that most enemies of bfing would be so blatantly lame in their behavior; it would make my job easier.

Probably envy- not one successful bfing parent in the bunch of 'em, and bottlefed beside. Hasn't ever told them that it was a deadly sin?

Some people are insane in their behavior. I'm sorry. Maybe your dh is being called to start a church of sane, humane believers?
post #48 of 209
As difficult as it is--and believe me, I have a few choice words myself I could apply to the situation--please remember not to namecall, mamas.

Thanks!
post #49 of 209
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Originally Posted by JamesMama View Post
he read some Bible verses that say that breasts are for the husbands delight. Blah blah blah....
Ohhhhhhhh! I always thought the BABY was supposed to drink your milk! I guess your HUSBAND is supposed to drink it though! Silly me! Thank GOD for this brilliant man for pointing it out to us FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!
post #50 of 209
That is so wrong!

It sounds like my parents baptist church tho...
post #51 of 209
definitely call someone higher up and report this. Does your state have laws protecting your right to NIP? If so, report it. Also, personally, I think this warrants a call to newspapers and maybe television news. Everyone needs to know about these people. Get a copy of that tape!
post #52 of 209
http://www.new-life.net/feeding.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8148/verses.html
http://thelactivist.blogspot.com/200...stfeeding.html

Sounds like these people need to actually study their bible sometime.
Breastfeeding is mentioned VERY positively, and "little ones" are described as treasures and blessings. Anyone who mistreats them is marked for judgement.

There have been many historical "greats" in the history of the church who promoted breastfeeding too. John Calvin, for one. Oh wait, aren't "calvinists" supposed to be "puritanical" and stuff? Guess what, I'm one of those crazy "calvinists' and I breastfeed anywhere, anytime.

I'd definitely put up Mary breastfeeding artwork on your MySpace, and one of the bible verses listed above right next to each painting.
post #53 of 209
All I can say is 'wow'....I don't know what to say except that I'm so sorry that something like this attitude came from your church. Your pastor calling you a prostitute sounds like his faith is not based in love and the teachings of Jesus, but fear. Run as fast as you can away from this church. You are absolutely justified to feel outraged. I applaud you and DH sticking to your beliefs.

Laurel
post #54 of 209
post #55 of 209
You are hurt and angry and justifiably. However, I want to remind you that this is your community of believers. If you have not written yet, perhaps you would entreat them to search their hearts and God's guidance in realizing that they have been affected by the "perversions of the world" when it comes to their views on nursing and remind them that the church is supposed to be a family. If not for your benefit, then for the good of any mother who steps into that church in the future.

You may not ever feel comfortable returning, but remember that they are imperfect and I pray that they realize that they stepped away from what is true. Include the scripture mentioned earlier, Isaiah 49:14-16, because God is not pornographic and would not be compared with something dirty. There are many other verses that discuss nursing in a matter of fact way. Especially as your husband is planning to be a pastor, it is important to educate them. I am so sorry that you have been treated this way.
post #56 of 209
I'm thankful that you got to find out (sadly, the hard way) that this church is not the kind of influence you want helping your young children down their spiritual path. It's very common to find this kind of hypocrisy out there, and I'm just so sorry for you that you have to go through this. I would feel SO betrayed. The bright side, however, like other pp's said, is that there are lots of sensible churches out there that don't have such a narrowminded viewpoint about no-brainers like breastfeeding. I hope you get your family away from this church as soon as you can, and find another spiritual home where you feel welcomed and comfortable. Best wishes, Ktjh
post #57 of 209
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I wish I could say I was suprised, but honestly, I'm not. Iowa is sometimes very backwards.
JamesMom- Are you in Iowa? Me too!

Can you tell us which church this is? I totally understand if you don't want to. Maybe just the city? I want to know if it's my church! I hop back and forth between Muscatine and Ames... is it in either of those 2 cities?
post #58 of 209
Thread Starter 
It's a very small church in Knoxville, Iowa. Which is about 50 miles south east of Des Moines.
post #59 of 209
Thread Starter 
Oh, and here are the photos in question

Mine

My Friends (I have her permission)
post #60 of 209
I'm sorry Nae!

I'm wondering why everyone has such an interest you and your friends MySpace accounts? I mean, if they are offended, perhaps they should stop clicking on it to look.
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