TTC 6+ months December Support Thread - Page 8

[allisonrose]

I did finally get to make an appointment with the new doctor. Next Tuesday was the soonest they had.

lily - Friday night I had pain that felt like the pain I get around ovulation. Centered on where I imagine my right ovary is. It lasted from at least 7pm until around 11pm. The next morning, my temp was slightly elevated and I worried that I actually ovulated: Friday was CD6! I also poa(FM)s which showed my LH as being kinda high.
After the recent abduction of an infant - asking to hold a stranger's baby wouldn't be advisable.

mommyic - Might be a Sex Ed project. I had to carry around a balloon in Jr high. I've also heard of carrying a bag of flour so you get a bit of weight - of course 5 pounds would be a light baby.
I joke with my hubby that once I'm pregnant I'll need to practice toting around our 12 pound cat to get ready to carry an infant - yeah I expect to have a big baby. I myself was 8 pounds 12 ounces at birth. My brother was a bit over 9 pounds.

Hopesmom - Glad to hear that you're doing well.

Christy - What made your doctor decide to prescribe you Met? My doctor mentioned it but in the context of "well I've had other patients get pregnant on it; we can put you on it and see what happens".

[lilyflower]

First of all, I hope you guys all know that I was just kidding! I would never attempt or ask to hold a stranger's baby, seriously. I totally couldn't stand a stranger getting anywhere near my newborn!!!

allisonrose, My doctor was kind of like that too about the metformin. As I am not totally sure, and she wasn't either, of a diagnosis of PCOS, I didn't continue it because I thought that it was a pretty serious thing to alter my body chemistry if it wasn't really going to work and I don't really know if that is the problem. It seems good if you are sure of the diagnosis of PCOS. I know I get cysts, but I don't have any of the other symptoms except som problems with acne (that drives me crazy).

[oceanmommy]

Originally Posted by susykat

Oh! oceanmommy I noticed that you took progesterone last month. What kind are you taking and what was your experience with? Can I also ask the explanation you were given as to why to take it? Sorry if I'm asking for to much info... TIA!

Katherine.... there is no TMI here for the most part anyways. And I too am interested to hear what kind of progesterone you are using and why, if its ok.

I went to my Dr (who I'd never met before) back in Sept. for my annual, and to admit it had been over a year of ttc with nothing. He said that women who are overweight tend to be estrogen dominant, that the progesterone cream would be beneficial for ttc and also help my terrible pms. This coincided with my BBT charts which seemed like they could be stronger in the luteul phase. Sometimes my temp seemd low, near the coverline, and I had a couple cycles which had 12 day LPs instead of 13 or 14.
So he said to use Pro-Gest by Emerita, that it is natural and mild and helpful for ttc although he would have recommended it for the PMS alone. I use it after I ovulate until AF, about a quarter teaspoon 2x a day (that's about 20mg 2x day). The dr also said it supports pregnancy, and that once I am pregnant I should keep using it.


I have figured out that it can make me feel a bit drowsy and calm, but usually it is fleeting and as I have used it longer I notice it less. Let's see.... I have used it for 3 cycles so far, one of which had really nice high temps in the LP. It is mild enough that it doesn't hold off AF, so I use it until she shows.


The dr felt that progesterone by itself can help a lot of women conceive, and his thought on the next step is higher dosage, prescription progesterone. My thought is clomid, or possibly both and he is ok with that. I am so glad I found a great dr.


I also have been taking vitex for a few months and I thnk it has really helped boost my progesterone and LP in general. I asked the dr if I could take them together and he said yes, they both support progesterone and can work together. Vitex also supports estrogen and is taken the whole cycle.



Incidentally the Pro-Gest and vitex have really helped my PMS.... I used to start crying like a week before AF and have cramps for days ahead of time. I actually had no cramps until CD 2 this past cycle, just a slight twingey backache which I always get before AF.

[mommy_in_chaos]

I have a really stupid question. I have to pee really bad right now. I noticed that I am feeling pressure on my ovaries because of having to pee. Why would this be?

I'm going to go to the urination station and fix this somewhat irritating problem.

Tah-Tah for now!

[ChristyM26]

allison - I've been dxd as insulin resistant (officially) - my body's cells don't know what to do with the insulin as well as they should. Bloodwork showed a slightly wonky blood sugar/insulin level (my sugar was high and my insulin was almost through the roof). Met's true purpose is to treat type 2 diabetes (which is likely what I will develop as I get older - my nanny has it and her mom had it too).

At any rate, the reason why it may help some women get pregnant is because if your insulin is off it can prevent ovulation. So fixing the blood sugar levels will allow ovulation again. Sometimes clomid is required too, but hopefully my body's fixed itself. I think the reason many dr's think to prescribe it is because sometimes insulin resistance has very few symptoms at first. It's only after it's progressed that people begin to notice the effect on their body (weight gain, constant hunger/thirst, craving carbs/sugars - which are all your body's way of trying to fix things - in reality your body doesn't know the insulin's there so it tries to do things to get you to eat foods that would produce insulin and so on and so on until your blood sugar goes crazy).

I've been on the met for 14 days - I feel lots better (more well rested), people keep asking me what I've done - one of my friends told me today I just look healthier - and I'm losing weight.

Wow. That was kinda long. Hopefully that answers your questions. BTW, insulin resistance can be a marker for PCOS but it is also it's own seperate thing which some people don't understand. If you have any other questions I can try and answer them. I have a friend who educated me on this cause he's had it for awhile now.

Tricia - good to hear from you. I'm glad to hear the babies are both doing well. Hopefully you start to feel better soon. I probably sound insane but I think I'd love twins (though I might feel different if my doctor actually told me I was having twins!).

I probably missed something in there. all around

[susykat]

Thanks oceanmommy My doctor looked at my blood work and said that my progesterone was to low to support preg. My midwife suggested putting me on clomid - it I think has dual purpose both for ovulation and increse progesterone. Anyway, I really really like my new doctor. He suggested a perscription progesterone (prometrium, its natural) from O to AF. I had a LEEP due to abnormal pap (portion of cervix removed) so he also told me to take B6, mucinex or robitussin, and an antiobotic from end of AF to 3 days post O. I was a bit fussy about the antibiotic - I'm not a fan of them - but he countered and said this route was more "natural" than clomid - with a smirk - this was when my husband decided he was going to be our doctor.

So we'll try this for awhile until I can't take it then on to clomid! Hopefully I am preggo right now : and I won't need it

The progesterone made me feel dizzy and drowzy (so take before bed) and today my head was a mess (combined with lack of sleep)

I feel preggo for not knowing what it feels like but I think the progesterone is responsible being that I am only 8 almost 9DPO

Enough about me! Ugh! I find it so easy these days to talk about me!

[angel1895]

ocean.. I'm overweight too.. well obese... tho I hate the word.. I gained a ton of weight when I was pregnant with ds... anywho.. i was thinking about it the other day.. I'm pretty positive that its part of the problem for me and dh

theresa.. I have no idea about your ovaries and your bladder.. it is intriguing to... let me know if you find an answer.. OH.. and I did the "real" baby thing in highschool too.. it was neat... tho I did find after ds that those babies were insanely easy compared to a real child.. I did find it was a good learning experience though

lily... I have been SO tempted to ask to hold a strangers baby.. its like I cant help myself... their almost magnetic or something.. lol

and hopesmom.. good to hear they are thriving!... gotta post the u/s pix if you got them

I KNOW that I missed people.. but I'm tired!!! ok. so sue me!! lol.. and for everyone who wants it.. goodnight

[Tenk]

Just poppin' in to say hi...I had to leave work just after lunch today b/c I started cramping and bleeding again....after I stopped everything Saturday evening. WTF : So, now I'm home for another day or so. my doctor wants to get me in for an urgent ultrasound to make sure my body has released everything or they want to do a D&C. UUGGGGHHHHHHHHH...........why can't everything just come out? I didn't bleed heavy at all and I m/c and then stopped bleeding completely, and now I'm bleeding again. So I'm going in tomorrow for the scan hopefully, and maybe they'll say it's all out and I don't have to have anything else. If so DH will be off Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, so he'll be here to take care of me. Theresa LOL, your so funny, I'm pretty sure that your gonna get that BFP in a few days here! Fingers crossed!!!

I have a feeling that someone else is going to get one too, and forgive me but with all my hormones and emotions right now i forget who it is. Please don't be upset about that, I've got so much going on right now, but I will keep my fingers crossed for all of you....night night ladies.

[allisonrose]

Christy - Thanks for the info! I have a few indications of PCOS: LH:FSH ratio, slightly elevated testesterone and acne (which actually could be simply interrelated). My doctor had me get my glucose tested: it was 79. I never talked to her personally about the test results so we never discussed the possibility of Met further.

Tenk -

[willowsmom]

Hugs and healing, Tenk.

Hi everyone. Have a good week.
CD87...for the record.

[quantumleap]

Popping out of lurker-land to let you know that I am still stalking all of you and definitely jump on your various rollercoasters with you. Up and down, and all around pretty much describes it, hey?
Just wanted to say, MIC, that your ovaries and your bladder are all smushed together at the same level(ish). In fact, the reason they make you have a full bladder for pelvic ultrasounds is to distinguish things in the area better. I've had to *partially* (!!!!) void my bladder because it was full enough that it was smushing and hiding my left ovary. I also find that, around O, I keep convincing myself I'm getting a bladder infection because of pain/tenderness in that area, but really, it's just an already tender ovary getting smushed by my full bladder.
In Katia update land - dh doesn't qualify for varicocele correction, which we were hoping to have. He's also currently four provinces away at a new job. I've been packing our apartment and dealing with all that fun stuff, and will join him soonish. I'm driving up, leaving on Thursday, arriving 8-9 days later. Insane. The bad news is that we will be so rural/remote that fertility help is out of the question. We're waiting three months for the results of his genetic and hormonal profiles; if there's a hormonal issue, that's fixable, but that's our only "fixable" option at this point, and I really don't think he has hormonal issues. I'm investigating at home AI (for Canada), so if any of you have any info, I'm all ears. Dh is having trouble adjusting to donor sperm at this point, he had originally agreed to using a donor if the varicocele surgery didn't work, but since that surgery isn't an option, the timeline has been moved up a fair bit. I'm feeling very resentful about it, mostly because he knows how much a baby means to me. Corny as it sounds, a child is the biggest, and only, "desire of my heart" at this point, and it's so frustrating that he doesn't want to give it to me for "a year or two". So, Tenk, I can totally empathize with your (now resolved) situation with your dh. I figure I can research the heck out of donor options though, so if he comes around sooner than later, we'll be able to jump right into it. A girl can dream, right?
I'm looking forward to doing another little happy dance when the next blessed woman gets her bfp.
Katia

[angel1895]

mornin' ladies!!
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[SarahJen]

Good morning everyone

selkat what province are you in?

willowsmom tell me your secret for staying sane waiting through your cycle, when I'm feeling frustrated with mine I remind myself of the length of yours and I kick myself to you, I hope it doesn't go on too much longer.

Theresa I'm hoping your temps are still up there today, I'm really starting to think I'll be moving you to the graduates list this month :

Hopesmom so nice to hear your updates I'm glad to hear everyone is doing well

Nothing new to report here, still . Had a horrible day yesterday and cried about a million times, did a stupid thing and read some posts on from my old DDC. The upcoming holidays are looming, I haven't done any shopping and the list goes on.

and to everyone else, I have to run and SHOVEL THE SNOW!!

[mommy_in_chaos]

Katia~
I'm sorry about your situation. It must be hard for him to have to think his little guys aren't good enough. Guys can be very sensitive about their manhood. And I've heard of some guys resenting the babies that were created with donor sperm. So you should be very careful about talking him into something he's not ready for. You want him to love the new baby as much as you do.

Good morning to you too Angel!!!

Sarah~
My temp is still up, but down from yesterday's temp. But you'll see from my chart that it's still up there. This am when I woke up, I had a revelation. I'm not pregnant... I don't know why I think this, but I'm just pretty sure that I'm not. I'm not disappointed about it, but I'm sure that on Saturday, I'm going to get my period and I wont even need to POASaturday. I thought about POAS today, but I decided that I better not. 11DPO makes for sorry test results. But let's hope anyway!!!

Tenk~
I guess that explains why you weren't there when I called yesterday. mama. Do you think that maybe you're bleeding again because you were pg with twins? I hope that question isn't too harsh. I'm just worried about you. I want you to get through this so you can work on getting over it. It's a hard place to be in. I'm thinking of you.

[mommy_in_chaos]

I'm hoping that I didn't put a damper on everyone's day. I really am in a good mood today. I'm not even really disappointed about not being pg. I am now just dreading having my period on our 3 hour drive on Saturday. I didn't tell DH that I was due to start that day, so if by some miracle I do end up being pg, then I think I may hold out to Christmas to tell him. He always says that I seem to have my period all the time. I think that's because he thinks the only time I really get "in the mood" is when I'm due to start, but I always seem to be "in the mood" lately. So he may not realize it's been over a month since my last period. Lets hope that's the case... and I'll stop being pecimistic about not being pg...

[ChristyM26]

I hate my temperatures. My chart now officially is useless, once again. No more crosshairs, nothing. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I hate this. :

[Tenk]

Theresa I'm sorry I missed you, I can email you my home #. It could very well be that what would have been baby # 2 is now releasing everything, who knows. Now, I'm super constipated b/c I've been taking all that vicoden for the pain. (not really a lot, maybe 6 of them since Thursday). I'm sorry that you don't feel pregnant right now, but so you know, I just knew I was pregnant and then just a few days before AF was due or supposed to be due.....i started feeling like maybe i wasn't pregnant and that it had been my imagination and there was just no way I could be. Anyway, I was and now I'm not....but I will be again soon, i'm sure your chart is till nice, nice, nice too!

Green are you going to test again soon? I think your chart still looks very pretty!

Susy Your's is looking mighty fine too!

Sarah I'm sorry you had a rotten day, I seem to find myself talking bad about people lately (my cousin namely) that can just get knocked up with their partner has "pulled out" as they insist that they were careful and can't use protection b/c their allergic (which I do believe BTW), but she's 27 lives with her mom and her boyfriend and her 1 yr old in a 2 bedroom house....and why you ask....she refuses to work, and make any effort at all to better herself and take care of her son. I cried to my mom about how she, and Kevin (this was on Sunday) just didn't understand how it felt to give birth and your baby never breath and it's so unfair that all of these people that can't take care of themselves are knocked up and she could never understand what that's like. OK, i'm not weapy today about all this but my mom reminded me that she was told she could not have children, and for 6 years she and my father tried and tried for a baby and she just couldn't get pregnant, finally she did (after 6 years of infertility) and here I am, but she NEVER used protection again (menapause now) and never had another baby. I of course had to apologize for telling her she didn't know what it was like....at least I got to hold my daughter before I had to give her to them, and I have 3 others that I'm so so so Thankful for.....sorry for the soap box here, I was just letting you know I'm thinking about you!

Willow & Allison Thanks for the hugs, Willow, I'm just hoping that your cycles get shorter soon and hopefully you won't have to have one for 9 months Allison, I think I might as about Met again tho????

Angel I hope you enjoyed your coffee this morning?!?!?!?

Tricia Great to hear from you, I'm glad that (ones a boy I know for sure) you and the kiddies are doing well, and I'm crossing my fingers that the M/S gets better soon....

Selcat Just give him time, I'm sure that's not what you want to hear, but it might be the only way to ease him into it.

Christy & Ocean hugs to you! CHRISTY, I'm so so sorry that your are feeling so down today....I just want you to know, I am thinking about you!

Lily & Ity I hope that you have no side effects at all today!

Pampered, Fiola, Funny, I'm thinking of you, and I'm sorry if i left anyone off the list.....

[willowsmom]

Originally Posted by SarahJen

willowsmom tell me your secret for staying sane waiting through your cycle, when I'm feeling frustrated with mine I remind myself of the length of yours and I kick myself to you, I hope it doesn't go on too much longer.

No secret. I just do what I have to do, y'know? I spend a lot of time focusing on other things, that's for sure. lol

Anyways...thanks for the hugs, y'all.
CD88:

[angel1895]

theresa.. dont give up yet! I'm sure you know your body well.. but af hasnt come yet right?? theres still a chance... and I'm sure you didnt put a damper on everyones day. cheer up kid.

christy.. is there a reason your temps are so crazy (no offense).. I'm just wondering cause there is SOME reason right?

now.. this brings me to my temping question.. if/when I start temping... does it matter that I cosleep with my son.. or that I sleep with a fan?? I would think that cosleeping would bring it up.. just cause ds is like a friggen heater at night(dh works at night so he doesnt count ).. and the fan would bring it down.. or maybe they would cancel eachother out? would anyone know?

teneal... you did say that you were pretty postive that there was two babies.. so it makes sense (in my wee little brain) that it very well could be the second one finally releasing... lots of hugs for you.. I can only imagine how you must be doing right now.

willow.. cd88.. is this even possible??? if not for the fact that you were ttc.. it would be great to skip periods like that!!

katherine/katia... now what one am I supposed to call you?? I'm all confused!!! I understand your dhs point about the donor sperm... I look at it as he wants it to be his... but I'm hoping you guys qualify for something... cause its better than nothin right?

2... I'm thinkin of everyone

[angel1895]

oh allison... ds was 10lbs 2ozs :