Healing the Gut Tribe-December - Page 8

[beachbuminthecity]

Originally Posted by caedmyn

You're right, people should do some research, but if you disagree with information in a link you post or know of something that contradicts some of the advice given, it's probably a good idea to post that information (or someone else probably will)--when someone is just starting out and learning about healing the gut everything is very overwhelming and it's easy to just trust what someone you think is more knowledgeable (ie those of us already on this thread) tells you.

I didn't say I disagree with what she says, I said I use some of her ideas. Some people can't do everything that one person recommends. There is so many different veiws on (lets say this topic) that not all of one persons advice will help and all or at that time. I don't totally agree with everything I read, but I do research what I read and if there is contradicting veiws I may try it or may not, depends. Lets take the Maker's diet. His book was very helpful, but I took some of his advise and others to see what worked for me. I don't totally agree with him either. As for her advise and other people on cleansing the liver I am to chicken to try at this time cause I know I will get tons of die off and whatever else. As for the colon cleanse I believe is extremely important, but having other problems that I know will interfer with the cleanse like having hypothyroidism we tend to me constipated so I experiment with different options. Also I posted her site and said to read more of her site that will help. She goes into more detail and people who are confused post questions to make sure they understand. I am sorry if I didn't explain more before I posted I guess I just assumed people did research before trying anything.

[Annikate]

I'm curious beachbum, what are you currently doing for gut healing? Are you trying to heal yourself or your dc?

[~Shanna~]

I just tried to introduce cow yogurt (24 hour) after 8 months on SCD. I was hoping to move away from goat yogurt because it's. so. expensive. Reacted mildly to the cow yogurt (breakouts, but no pain, no gas - better than last time I tried.), so I'm going back on goat yogurt and hoping to try the cow yogurt again in a few months (and hopefully to give the homeopathy some time to work its magic).

My question: Has anyone been able to switch to cow from goat when they didn't previously tolerate it? I'm wondering if this is more of a true allergy than a digestive issue. Seems like more of a protein issue, when I can clearly tolerate goat.

[bluets]

Originally Posted by Shanna4000

My question: Has anyone been able to switch to cow from goat when they didn't previously tolerate it? I'm wondering if this is more of a true allergy than a digestive issue. Seems like more of a protein issue, when I can clearly tolerate goat.

heh - i'm too chicken to try. i have tried feta cheese (it snuck into those yummy spinach-feta applegate farms sausages!) and, when cooked, it doesn't bother me. i can't stand goat's milk or goat's milk yogurt. those are just way too goaty for my taste buds.

though maybe i should try it again - i just recently tried commercial kefir and found it way too sweet and lacking in the nice zing that my homegrown kefir has. 6 months ago, i couldn't stand the commerical stuff. maybe my taste buds have evolved since then as well.

[caedmyn]

Well I just spent $75 on custom probiotics for DD...I sure hope they work.

[beachbuminthecity]

Originally Posted by Annikate

I'm curious beachbum, what are you currently doing for gut healing? Are you trying to heal yourself or your dc?

Hi Annikate, I definitly changed diet, but do cheat and plan on going very strict. I am waiting on my kefir grains (should come today), and want to start fermenting veggies. IMO, I believe these 2 add foods and going to make a big differenc. As for your answer I didn't take it slow with doing all the suggestions and was feeling worse. So first take it slow and listen to your body. I took some suggestions from this website www.askshelley.com go to the fequently asked question at the top of the site and just do alot of reading. Don't take anyone'e word for anything until you looked at different veiws. I also read alot on this site too http://www.mercola.com/index.htm and from the Maker's diet and Sally Fallon's cookbook. I think key is fermenting, soaking , and slow cooking with rich nutrient foods for starters. Sorry I got sidetracked---I also use L-Glutamine caps and aloe vera juice, both are suppose to help heal the gut and of course I haven't been too faithful with it but I have been inproving. I don't have stomach pain, bloating, and gas anymore. I will try and keep you posted on my regimen. I do take alot of probiotic until I get the kefir and fermenting veggies going. In this thread the page before this I posted info on leaky gut you may want to check, post #132 it is long.:

Originally Posted by Shanna4000

I just tried to introduce cow yogurt (24 hour) after 8 months on SCD. I was hoping to move away from goat yogurt because it's. so. expensive. Reacted mildly to the cow yogurt (breakouts, but no pain, no gas - better than last time I tried.), so I'm going back on goat yogurt and hoping to try the cow yogurt again in a few months (and hopefully to give the homeopathy some time to work its magic).

My question: Has anyone been able to switch to cow from goat when they didn't previously tolerate it? I'm wondering if this is more of a true allergy than a digestive issue. Seems like more of a protein issue, when I can clearly tolerate goat.

They do say goat's milk is better for people to digest and it is very close to breast milk. Maybe you should try it as kefir instead and see how that works. I don't know if I answered your question

[Punchy Kaby]

Originally Posted by caedmyn

Well I just spent $75 on custom probiotics for DD...I sure hope they work.

What strains of bacteria are in it? Did you get one for yourself too or just for your DD?

[caedmyn]

Originally Posted by Nolansmum

What strains of bacteria are in it? Did you get one for yourself too or just for your DD?

I just got it for DD. The stuff I'm doing seems to be helping me and those are way too expensive for me to take if I don't need to. I got: L. acidophilus, salivarius, planatarum (sp?), reuteri, and rhamnosus, B. bifidum, lactis, and infantis (50-50 split between lactobaccilli and bifidobacteria). I chose the strains based on what I've read about probiotics, choosing strains that either showed benefits for eczema and allergies in studies or had actions that I felt would be beneficial to DD. It's supposed to get here on Thursday so I will keep you posted on any results.

Oh, and whoever was looking for dairy free reuteri--customprobiotics says their's is dairy free.

[caedmyn]

I need opinions: now that DD appears to be reacting to tree nuts, is it a bad idea to take her to a place like Texas Roadhouse where they thow peanut shells on the floor? She's been there before and I do of course keep her away from the peanuts and shells.

[Chinese Pistache]

Originally Posted by caedmyn

I need opinions: now that DD appears to be reacting to tree nuts, is it a bad idea to take her to a place like Texas Roadhouse where they thow peanut shells on the floor? She's been there before and I do of course keep her away from the peanuts and shells.

I'd probably avoid it just to be safe, at least for 6 mths to a year, when you can figure out and isolate her reactions better (after elimination).

[Chinese Pistache]

Originally Posted by Shanna4000

I just tried to introduce cow yogurt (24 hour) after 8 months on SCD. I was hoping to move away from goat yogurt because it's. so. expensive. Reacted mildly to the cow yogurt (breakouts, but no pain, no gas - better than last time I tried.), so I'm going back on goat yogurt and hoping to try the cow yogurt again in a few months (and hopefully to give the homeopathy some time to work its magic).

My question: Has anyone been able to switch to cow from goat when they didn't previously tolerate it? I'm wondering if this is more of a true allergy than a digestive issue. Seems like more of a protein issue, when I can clearly tolerate goat.

What about coconut milk yogurt?

[formerluddite]

anybody use Primal Defense ? i used it during our (dd1 and i, in 2003) candida cleanse and i tested clear of candida (kinesiological testing) after 5 weeks diet/enzymes/probiotics (no herbs since bfing and herbs make for nasty tasting mama milk per the acupuncturist who was doing our NAET and guiding us in the cleanse). i got up to 8 caplets/day. now i maintain on 1-2, day, but of course i slack off at times. got to stay hydrated or risk contipation, too.

reading the kefir info, considering culturing, but at best i'm a reluctant cook; not sure i'm up to the trial and error aspect. i can burn water...

anybody know about pumpkin seeds ? before we went to india i heard (?where) that they help prevent intestinal infection. i can't recall whether it was virus/bacteria or other pathogens like amoebas/parasites that they prevented. we ate a small handful 1-3x/day, got no intestinal upsets. (avoided raw stuff, filtered water and mostly ate at home cooking at my IL's). wondering if anyone else has info, uses them on a regular basis.

[sparkletruck]

Originally Posted by caedmyn

Well I just spent $75 on custom probiotics for DD...I sure hope they work.

I have an ongoing fantasy; do you all remember Twighlight Zone, the show? There was one where a man found a stopwatch that literally stopped time; everyone and everything stopped except him. At the end of the show he tried to rob a bamk but as he was wheeling the cart full of money out the door he dropped the watch and it broke. Anyway, my fantasy is that I have that watch and go to Whole Foods to get supplements!!!! How fun would that be! I would get some for all of you too!!

Does anyone have any kefir grains? I dont think I care which kind - I dont think I have a problem with dairy, although havent had any but a bite or two of 30hr yogurt in 5 mos.

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by saskiasmom

I have an ongoing fantasy; do you all remember Twighlight Zone, the show? There was one where a man found a stopwatch that literally stopped time; everyone and everything stopped except him. At the end of the show he tried to rob a bamk but as he was wheeling the cart full of money out the door he dropped the watch and it broke. Anyway, my fantasy is that I have that watch and go to Whole Foods to get supplements!!!! How fun would that be! I would get some for all of you too!!

That's a great visual! I'm coming too!

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by caedmyn

I just got it for DD. The stuff I'm doing seems to be helping me and those are way too expensive for me to take if I don't need to. I got: L. acidophilus, salivarius, planatarum (sp?), reuteri, and rhamnosus, B. bifidum, lactis, and infantis (50-50 split between lactobaccilli and bifidobacteria). I chose the strains based on what I've read about probiotics, choosing strains that either showed benefits for eczema and allergies in studies or had actions that I felt would be beneficial to DD. It's supposed to get here on Thursday so I will keep you posted on any results.

Oh, and whoever was looking for dairy free reuteri--customprobiotics says their's is dairy free.

Did Harry help you decide what to get?

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by beachbuminthecity

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They do say goat's milk is better for people to digest and it is very close to breast milk. Maybe you should try it as kefir instead and see how that works. I don't know if I answered your question

It is actually no closer to breastmilk, but the proteins are smaller than cow's. IT is thought to be easier to digest. This may be true for many reasons, but I will go on record as saying the main reason IMO is that it isn't used generally in prepared foods so there's far less chance of overexposure.

We can't do any animal milks.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by Annikate

Did Harry help you decide what to get?

I'm pretty sure Caedmyn did that all by herself! IIRC Harry wanted to give her just bifidus and acidophilus. Check her out customizing her own! Way to go, lady. Did it feel good to take control? I can't wait to hear your results!

[Panserbjorne]

For all you ladies struggling with cost...here's a thought. My dh and I own a business, and I am a partner in another. One of the ways I have ben able to support my gut healing habit is to get accounts with my biggest vendors...many of which I never used before embarking on this journey a year and a half ago. IT is very simple to set up a company (like a WAHM deal) and get your own accounts. Alot of places either don't have a minimum, or the min. is easily reachable. It's just another way to spin it to save some $. If I didn't already have the resale certs. and a license I absolutely would have gotten one for this purpose.

One of hte best is a place like emerson (www.emersonecologics.com) they have pharm. grade supplements-really high quality stuff. Some you need a doc's license number for, but most you can get with no hassle.

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by firefaery

For all you ladies struggling with cost...here's a thought. My dh and I own a business, and I am a partner in another. One of the ways I have ben able to support my gut healing habit is to get accounts with my biggest vendors...many of which I never used before embarking on this journey a year and a half ago. IT is very simple to set up a company (like a WAHM deal) and get your own accounts. Alot of places either don't have a minimum, or the min. is easily reachable. It's just another way to spin it to save some $. If I didn't already have the resale certs. and a license I absolutely would have gotten one for this purpose.

That is an awesome tip. Thanks!:

[mamajaillet]

Ladies, I feel like a bum asking this question, but I feel like I am spending all my spare time on the computer, and still have not come to a decision about what probiotics to take, or actually to make coconut milk yogurt out of. I had been taking New Chapters All Flora, but can't tolerate the soy, and the fermented mushroom would taste awful in yogurt

It had eight strains, and I have this feeling like a number of strains would be most beneficial, but for now, would like to buy just one powder dairy/soy/chickpea free formula that would culture yogurt. Any suggestions, I am completely overwhelmed, but need to get some probiotics into my body!!!