Healing the Gut Tribe-December - Page 2

[Annikate]

I'm getting sick of trying to diagnose dds myself!

DD1 still has that nasty rash around her mouth. I don't know what it is but I do know that the consistent use of tee trea oil helps it WHEN she doesn't bite it, lick it or pick at it with her fingers. So, I'm not going to the ped for it because I know he'll either giver her a steriod cream or an antibiotic - neither of which I'll fill, so what's the point?

But now, she's also got little red bumps all over her face. They are not raised (at least they don't look raised, I haven't felt them yet.)

What the heck could this be? She hasn't eaten anything different that I can think of.

No fever, no other symptoms.

[Punchy Kaby]

Originally Posted by Annikate

I'm getting sick of trying to diagnose dds myself!

DD1 still has that nasty rash around her mouth. I don't know what it is but I do know that the consistent use of tee trea oil helps it WHEN she doesn't bite it, lick it or pick at it with her fingers. So, I'm not going to the ped for it because I know he'll either giver her a steriod cream or an antibiotic - neither of which I'll fill, so what's the point?

But now, she's also got little red bumps all over her face. They are not raised (at least they don't look raised, I haven't felt them yet.)

What the heck could this be? She hasn't eaten anything different that I can think of.

No fever, no other symptoms.

I hear your frustration and feel like I am in a similar situation. For us

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by Nolansmum

I hear your frustration and feel like I am in a similar situation. For us

Ah, thanks. I'm kinda hoping it's chicken pox. I'd rather it be that than a NEW flare up of excema yk?

Geez, at least the pox would be over and done with and I won't have a new project to work on. . .

[Punchy Kaby]

I am *thinking* about bee's anti-candida diet and the thing that holds me back is that I have not been eating eggs(seems like the diet would be challenging without eggs and CO, which I also have not been eating.). Ds does seem to react toeggs with red bumps on his cheeks. Is it an allergy or maybe something to do with the high sulfur content of the eggs? I don't clearly understand the role of sulfur in detoxing the body...

[Punchy Kaby]

Originally Posted by Annikate

Ah, thanks. I'm kinda hoping it's chicken pox. I'd rather it be that than a NEW flare up of excema yk?

Geez, at least the pox would be over and done with and I won't have a new project to work on. . .

Am I twisted for laughing at this?

[Pattyla]

We're back.
It was a long trip but a pretty good one. DD slept really well while there and her behavior was normal, not crazy from food issues pretty much the entire time. I was very happy. Unfortunatly she now has a nasty cold so sleep is out the window again. I've lost track but I think this is cold #4 or #5 since the begining of Sept. : I'm feeling quite depressed about her right now.

Now that I'm back I need to get some research done and get to ordering some probiotics, I think. I'm also planning to try goat yogurt again and see how dd does.

I think I agree with the idea that candida overgrowth is a symptom of your system being messed up and not necessarily the issue to fight head on. Not that getting your symptoms under control is a bad goal but ultimately killing off the bad guys won't do you any good if you don't have an army of good guys ready and willing to take over. And a system that will support their growth. I'm not really clear on how to get from here to there but I'm feeling like it is possible.

[MommyofPunkiePie]

Originally Posted by firefaery

My dd was also assessed at the final day and she is also tied in her labial and lingual frenulums. No suprise that she has digestive issues, as well as speech and dental (space between her two front teeth and bottom front teeth angle in) We are going to have her clipped soon.

Can you go into a little more detail about this? My DD also has the space between the top teeth and the bottom teeth angled in. I never noticed a tongue-tie, but as I am inspecting her tongue right now, it appears as if it's sort of forked when it's not laying flat. The only speech issue I notice is her problem with L's and R's (makes sense that she'd be tied if her tongue can't reach the top teeth to correctly make the sound), but honestly she's 26 months and I thought this would be something that would happen naturally in time. I also have a problem with her top teeth rubbing my nipples raw while she nurses (again, if she's tied, maybe her tongue cannot reach out far enough for her to get the top teeth off my areola?). Her digestion is definitely not optimal.

WOW! Thank you so much for posting this! It has truly been a lightbulb moment for me! I'm glad you have an inside track on what's going on with your babes! I am feeling that same way right now!!!

Samantha

[Panserbjorne]

Peristalsis begins at the very tip of the tongue, so if it's anchored in any way you may not have a complete rhythm all the way through the digestive tract...the motion of peristalsis could be uneven. It then wouldn't puch things through efficiently.

It's really hard for me to describe how a tongue tie looks in a way that woul d be beneficial to you. My ds and dd could both always stick their tongue out past their lips though. One thing is when they cry their tongue looks kind of flat, where it should be a significant "u" shape. A posterior tongue tie is where they have full use of the front half, but the back half in anchored. Underneath the tongue there is often a white filmy bit of web like skin that most everyone thinks is normal. It wasn't until after ds was clipped the second time that I understood it wasn't!

[Panserbjorne]

[QUOTE=MommyofPunkiePie;6681806]Can you go into a little more detail about this? My DD also has the space between the top teeth and the bottom teeth angled in. I never noticed a tongue-tie, but as I am inspecting her tongue right now, it appears as if it's sort of forked when it's not laying flat. The only speech issue I notice is her problem with L's and R's (makes sense that she'd be tied if her tongue can't reach the top teeth to correctly make the sound), but honestly she's 26 months and I thought this would be something that would happen naturally in time. I also have a problem with her top teeth rubbing my nipples raw while she nurses (again, if she's tied, maybe her tongue cannot reach out far enough for her to get the top teeth off my areola?). Her digestion is definitely not optimal.

WOW! Thank you so much for posting this! It has truly been a lightbulb moment for me! I'm glad you have an inside track on what's going on with your babes! I am feeling that same way right now!!!

Yeah, that's pretty much a tongue tie. Dd has the exact same speech stuff. If *could* resolve itself with work, but since dd has so many other issues I think I'm going to be more proactive about it.

[Chinese Pistache]

I'm wondering about the tongue tie, too. I'm not quite picturing what you all are talking about, but when dd was a baby, we noticed that her tongue had a definite indention down the center--kind of like it would be cleft, if the line went any deeper than superficially. I often wondered if maybe I had a slight folic acid deficiency or something when I was pg and that if it had been worse, she could have had a true structural problem. She's still too young to identify speech problems.

I'm getting a yogurt maker for Christmas, so I'll finally : start making (coconut) yogurt. I'm really excited because it's so hard to get dd to take probiotics and this way, it will taste good and there will be so much more beneficial bacteria.

I think I finally found a corn-free enzyme by Kirkman's. I'm going to call them today. The next biggest challenge will be getting dd to take them.

I'm sorry for everyone that's feeling down. I had a big meltdown this weekend because I was so frustrated by these gut/allergy problems. It seems to consume all my energy and thoughts and my dh just doesn't get how emotionally taxing it is. I feel better now, but I had a rough Saturday.:

[Pattyla]

Goat Gurt

I picked up some myenburg goat milk today to make some goat yogurt for dd and see how she does with it. Is there any reason why she would tolerate the raw stuff better? I hate to go through the hassle of getting the raw for a one time test that doesn't pan out to her being able to eat it, kwim? But if it will make a difference I'll do it. If she can tolerate it I'll be getting raw goat milk from a local lady to make it with.

[caedmyn]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

I picked up some myenburg goat milk today to make some goat yogurt for dd and see how she does with it. Is there any reason why she would tolerate the raw stuff better? I hate to go through the hassle of getting the raw for a one time test that doesn't pan out to her being able to eat it, kwim? But if it will make a difference I'll do it. If she can tolerate it I'll be getting raw goat milk from a local lady to make it with.

I've heard a lot of people say they can't tolerate pasturized (and all the Meyenburg I've seen is actually ultrapasturized) but do fine with raw...but with yogurt it may not make a difference. You might get better answers to this question on the Traditional Foods forum, though.

[bluets]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

I picked up some myenburg goat milk today to make some goat yogurt for dd and see how she does with it. Is there any reason why she would tolerate the raw stuff better? I hate to go through the hassle of getting the raw for a one time test that doesn't pan out to her being able to eat it, kwim? But if it will make a difference I'll do it. If she can tolerate it I'll be getting raw goat milk from a local lady to make it with.

as caedmyn said, yogurt might be ok for a test. certainly kefir would work too (if you've got some grains already). just make sure you let it culture/ferment/incubate for a good long time. my experience with kefir is that the annoying proteins are broken down when i get maximal separation between curds and whey - any less time and i might as well be drinking storebought stuff. and that's using Organic Valley (cow) milk. raw milk here would require a 2hr roundtrip and at $2.35/gallon, i'm not up to that kind of trip.

[formerluddite]

:

new to mdc (3wks) since i just got a computer after a 10yr break.

not so new to this topic, but learning a lot (read until 3am last nite .

wondering if anyone has tried water buffalo milk yogurt (woodstock brand, made in vermont). is a water buffalo so close to a cow that it's just as likely to provoke a reaction?

dd1 had allergic issues as a baby, "grew out of them" with time and various interventions (elimination diet, NAET, candida cleanse, ...), but her eczema came back after we vax'd her for hep A prior to a trip to india 3 yrs ago (it was a tough choice, fear vs. fear), and has been here ever since, better and worse.

we try to eat things varied and in moderation, take probiotics,... i don't know if i have the wherewithall to try any drastic eliminations again. i buy the water buffalo yogurt because it's one more variety to add.

uh, oh,...apparently dd1 got her best freind's stomach flu after all. gtg.

[Punchy Kaby]

FF-As per your suggestion a while back I am trying colloidal silver on DS's eczema. It has only been 2 days but it is slowly getting better-he is not scratching anymore and that is a big step in keeping the infection down. I got a spray that is 10 ppm. I saw there is some gel that is 50 ppm, would that be too strong for his skin? Also can you tell me more about how often I can use it and for what duration (1 week, 1 month)? Is it ok for a little to get ingested? I am thinking it would be good to spray on his hands periodically and they are in the mouth constantly.

I also got some rescue remedy cream but have not tried it yet.

You continue to be a wealth of information!

[my3peanuts]

Is it possible to jump in here as a newbie or should I start a different thread with my questions???

I'm new and really have no idea what "healing the gut" is about. I've read through the cheat sheet but I still feel lost. I guess I have a few questions.

Ds is 3 months and has recently been sick for two weeks with diarrhea/ frequent spitting/throwing up & fever. He's losing weight. He's now over the fever & diarrhea but is still spitting up much more frequently. He has also been battling thrush off and on continuously for the last 3 months & it's been mentioned to me that possibly the yeast overgrowth in my system & his are causing reflux and that in turn is causing him to lose weight.

I had been taking acidophilus but I've been on a dairy/egg elimination diet for two weeks so I stopped taking that.

So basically I'm looking for any advice you can give! thanks so much!!

[Pattyla]

Coconut milk yogurt recipe pretty please????!!!!

(or at least send me in the right direction to find it)

[Chinese Pistache]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

Coconut milk yogurt recipe pretty please????!!!!

(or at least send me in the right direction to find it)

Me, too!!!!

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by Nolansmum

FF-As per your suggestion a while back I am trying colloidal silver on DS's eczema. It has only been 2 days but it is slowly getting better-he is not scratching anymore and that is a big step in keeping the infection down. I got a spray that is 10 ppm. I saw there is some gel that is 50 ppm, would that be too strong for his skin? Also can you tell me more about how often I can use it and for what duration (1 week, 1 month)? Is it ok for a little to get ingested? I am thinking it would be good to spray on his hands periodically and they are in the mouth constantly.

I also got some rescue remedy cream but have not tried it yet.

You continue to be a wealth of information!

Stick with the spray, use it as often as you need to until hte rash is gone. It's perfectly fine to get a bit in his mouth, just don't dose him with it (like a tsp a day or something...a bit as you spray is nothing.) Glad it's working...I always have success with it!

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

Coconut milk yogurt recipe pretty please????!!!!

(or at least send me in the right direction to find it)

2 cans coconut milk, 2 T. honey, 2 T. gelatin (I use 3) heated. Cool to 110ish and remove 1/4 cup. Add culture. Return to mix. Stir in 1 T. of vanilla. Incubate 10ish hours at 110. It tastes just like regular old yogurt. Gelatin makes it thick, 3 T. makes it really thick. IF you skip the gelatin it still has all the good bugs, it's just runny. Fine for smoothies though.