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post #221 of 395
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Originally Posted by HennyPenny View Post
Hello all. I'm new here... and I had a few questions. I don't know if any of this has already been covered but I'm going to ask anyhow

I am having serious "gut" issues. I'm eating a very NT/WAPF diet which has helped a bit... but I'm having problems digesting any and all carbs. grains, fruits, and high carb veggies. I bloat right after eating. all over my body but mainly in my stomache. I can look 7 mos pregnancy after just one small meal with even a tiny bit of carbs in it. my face gets puffy as does my hands and feet. it feels like I gain 10lbs in 10 mins.

I'm gaining weight for no reason. I'm a very active person and I spend a great deal of time outdoors. and I eat very well so I'm very discouraged. this only became a problem about 6 or 8 mos ago. I've been dealing with different forms of "IBS" for about 7 years, but the carb issue is new.

a friend of mine recommended I up my intake of probiotics and such thru kefir and the like. I'm getting some kefir next week but in the meantime I'm taking in via pill form. otherwise I'm baffled. if anyone has any other suggestions, or thoguhts I would love the advice. even my doctor just kinda shrugged and tried to prescribe a bunch of meds for "IBS". ugh! no help at all and they had no idea what the problem was.

thanks in advance!!

Laura
Welcome Laura! I would start out by reading the 'healing the gUt cheat sheet'
It sounds like you would benefit from the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, so check out that link first. You are already doing a good thing by following an NT diet.
post #222 of 395
When do I take my probiotics for maximum effectiveness?

I eat fermented veggies with every meal, but when do I drink kefir/take a probiotic supplement? I take Candex on an empty stomach, how does this affect the probiotic?
post #223 of 395
vxclayborn, I would also say don't serve leftover veggies to a baby, because not only have they lost most of their nutrients while sitting around overnight, they also get full of molds, which are hard on the immune system. And veggies cook quick anyway.
post #224 of 395
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Originally Posted by beachbuminthecity View Post
To everyone that doesn't eat/drink dairy. This maybe a dumb question, do you all still eat/drink milk kefir and yogurt.

DD and I just eliminated dairy about three weeks ago. I have made one (yummy) batch of coconut milk yogurt with DD's probiotics.

I am also looking for water kefir grains, but I'm up against a brick wall finding someone who can/will deliver (outside of outrageously priced eBay auctions).

Since we're doing a trial elimination just to see what aspects of dairy she may be reacting to, I can't even try to get milk grains to convert. Once I figure out if her skin problems are caused by the dairy protein, I'll see if milk grains can be utilized.

Of course, after struggling for MONTHS to finally eliminate dairy (I love me some cheese! ), two days after we took the plunge DD got her first patch of eczema. It was the size of a quarter, to the right of her mouth, and it followed her consumption of my homemade egg salad by one hour.

Samantha
post #225 of 395
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Originally Posted by bluets View Post
oh, and ds can tolerate being in the office for about 2 minutes. then he wants to flee, or at least see the fish in the waiting room. anyone else have dcs with short attention spans for treatment?

DD is scared to death of the chiro I go to see. She's fine until he tries to touch her, and then it's all downhill from there. She talks about him constantly on days I have an appointment, says Dr. Pete is her doctor, he helps Mommy's back, and that he's a *ky-ra-practer*. Ask her if she wants to go see him and she says, "No, I stay with Grawnee."

Samantha
post #226 of 395
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Originally Posted by bluets View Post

while chatting with the ND, i mentioned that ds grinds his teeth at night. sooo... apparently bruxism is linked with parasites. parasites can cause constipation. ND recommended the homeopathic remedy Cina (pronounced China, see http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Cina. for more info). [not that there's ANY scientific literature addressing the bruxism-parasite connection except in regard to malaria parasites - not something ds is likely to have]

we've got other overlapping symptoms... the dark sunken look in the eyes, the nose picking (I'm sure that if I mentioned this one to the ND, he would have honed in on Cina a lot sooner), and some of the irritability though not the "biting one's friends", if there is such a symptom.

(snip)

oh, and ds can tolerate being in the office for about 2 minutes. then he wants to flee, or at least see the fish in the waiting room. anyone else have dcs with short attention spans for treatment?
ooh, ooh, ooh! gotta try cina tomorrow!

dd1 (5 1/2) has ground her front teeth about halfway down over the past 3 years! she actually hasn't done it much over the past few months, pretty much since we switched from CST to chinese medicine/accupuncture as the current treatment for her eczema/anxiety (i try to stick to one approach at a time, otherwise how can i know what's working?). the CST referred us since she felt that she would keep finding the same stuff each session. she'd work on it and it'd all be back again the next time.

question: are there kids that don't pick their nose?
or adults, even... just look around into other cars at a stoplight...

dd1 really likes her accupuncturist (i do too...). she's very gentle and low key, has a good feel for kids. even so, dd1 mostly just wants to weigh/mix her herbs. she squeals and squirms to avoid being touched, even for pulse assessment, doesn't want her skin looked at. the acc. sneaks the needles in at the back of her neck by playing with her hair. dd1 also won't allow any "brushing" treatment (by me at home either).

at the CST's i would have to spend the whole session distracting dd1 with "i spy" and "where's waldo" to keep her still and to stay on the table. dd1 would get very hyper by the end of the session, usually have a tantrum that evening (not that she doesn't have a few a week anyway...). CST said it was treatment related.

at the dentist she keeps still and calm with ease. i think the fact that CST/acc. treatments stir things up leads to the short attn span.
post #227 of 395

resurrecting a 12/03/06 post with questions

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Originally Posted by firefaery View Post
So, I spent the last couple of days reeling. I went to a conference on tongue tie and I have so many things swimmin in my head! ALot of what we have been through as a family makes sense. First of all, apparently tongue tie is more apparent in and with each subsequent child. So to me, it is clearly nutritional. This has never been researched, or even apparently thought about. Huh.

An undiagnosed tongue tie negatively affects digestions (we knew that) it can cause bloating, discomfort, constipation and so on and so forth. I didn't really realize to what extent though. Two case studies were presented where the patient was on all kinds of meds for IBD and had all of the symptoms disappear when clipped. That is interesting.

The conference was given because docs are no longer assessing for anything but type 1 ties. Ds had a type 1, 2 and 3. Luckily my LC was on it and called this doc in NY, and was then able to have her talk my doc here through the procedure. Unfortunately although we clipped twice (first the anterior, then posterior) we didn't get the whole thing. Again, interesting. My dd was also assessed at the final day and she is also tied in her labial and lingual frenulums. No suprise that she has digestive issues, as well as speech and dental (space between her two front teeth and bottom front teeth angle in) We are going to have her clipped soon.
this is very interesting to me, because dd2 nursed badly from birth, partly because she didn't get her tongue out far enough to cover her lower gumline. my LLLleader gave us tongue "exercises" to draw out her tongue prior to each nursing, which helped a little, and recommended we see a CST, which we did. the CST worked on/released a number of things, including her tongue. we saw her about 6 times over 2 mos. i remember at the time having already read there were disadvantages to having clipping done (can no longer recall what or where i read it...), and she was nursing adequately, so i left it at that. but in hindsight she might have had some reflux probs, which improved when i cut out chocolate (i had a major dagoba oatmeal choc chip cookie fixation the first 3 weeks of her life), and it seemed like her poops were mostly undigested food the first 6 months she had solids.

so now i read this post and wonder if i should follow this further. dd2's still not a great nurser, she always slides away so that she's latched very shallow. i can only tolerate 5-10 min/side or i get sore, and i limit her frequency much more than i did dd1. she's unvaxed, and loves to eat, gets some sandpaper skin (?eczema) on her trunk/extremities intermittently, with no clear diet provocation. her speech is coming along very slowly, still lots of jargon (at 22mos), even had her hearing tested 2 mos ago because she's had frequent colds, starting with her first at 3 days old (big sister got it 2 days before...).

i also decided to check dd1 (a fine, if relentless, nurser her first 3 yrs), and low and behold she can't get her tongue out very far, and the tip looks slightly forked/pulled down. and her bottom front teeth angle in, too. but her speech was always crisply enunciated (i could get her to parrot "echolalic" at 19 mos), and she was an early (and incessant) talker (like her mother...).

so i'm wondering whether i should do something? who would i go to? a cursory google of tongue tie only shows info on the frenulum up front, doesn't mention posterior or "type 1,2,3," seems to imply clipping is only necessary if severe restriction is present.

firefaery: guidance would be much appreciated.
post #228 of 395
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Originally Posted by HennyPenny View Post
Hello all. I'm new here... and I had a few questions. I don't know if any of this has already been covered but I'm going to ask anyhow

I am having serious "gut" issues. I'm eating a very NT/WAPF diet which has helped a bit... but I'm having problems digesting any and all carbs. grains, fruits, and high carb veggies. I bloat right after eating. all over my body but mainly in my stomache. I can look 7 mos pregnancy after just one small meal with even a tiny bit of carbs in it. my face gets puffy as does my hands and feet. it feels like I gain 10lbs in 10 mins.

I'm gaining weight for no reason. I'm a very active person and I spend a great deal of time outdoors. and I eat very well so I'm very discouraged. this only became a problem about 6 or 8 mos ago. I've been dealing with different forms of "IBS" for about 7 years, but the carb issue is new.

a friend of mine recommended I up my intake of probiotics and such thru kefir and the like. I'm getting some kefir next week but in the meantime I'm taking in via pill form. otherwise I'm baffled. if anyone has any other suggestions, or thoguhts I would love the advice. even my doctor just kinda shrugged and tried to prescribe a bunch of meds for "IBS". ugh! no help at all and they had no idea what the problem was.

thanks in advance!!

Laura
Do you have any symptoms of a yeast overgrowth? The bloating after eating carbs sounds like it could be caused by a yeast overgrowth.
post #229 of 395
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Originally Posted by caedmyn View Post
I've done some healing, at least as far as my symptoms mostly disappearing. Obviously I need to heal a lot more, though, since DD is still reacting to things I eat. A couple of people who post every once in a while have healed (JaneS and GaleForce). Hopefully some of the regulars who have healed will post their experiences, too. Of course, the jury is still out on whether anyone ever truly heals, as opposed to just being symptom free.
Hi Caedmyn,

I don't know if I asked you what your regimen is and what you take in detail if possible. With me I first need to go strick with foods. Do you think if I PM/email JaneS and Galeforce they would post what they did. I like to try other peoples choices/remedies that I may have not even thought about.
post #230 of 395

Cinnamon--antifungal

Did you all know that cinnamon is an antifungal,antibacterial, and (not sure with this one antiviral).

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/n...s/100740.shtml
post #231 of 395

Meats and eggs--antifungals

People maybe having reactions from eggs is because they are antifungals. I highlighted the part where it states that, but the whole article is pretty interesting.

Whose Diet is Really Right?



I have had the honor of interviewing Dr. Ornish and the late, great Dr. Atkins. I found that both men were enthusiastic about their discoveries and shared a childlike energy. Neither disrespected the other, but they did challenge the other's dietary statements. To my amazement, both had solid scientific evidence that they were right and their adversaries were wrong. How could this be?
With all due respect to these two fine doctors, I doubt that either understood that there are regularly eaten foods in the American diet that are "commonly contaminated with myco-toxins [fungal poisons]," according to Ruth Etzel, Ph.D., M.D. (JAMA, 2002;287[4]:425-7).

Dr. Ornish removes animal fat from his patients' diets. Dramatic reversals in heart disease have been noted. Unbeknownst to Dr. Ornish, or at least not appearing in any of his publications, agricultural scientists have documented that when cattle feed on mycotoxin-laden grain, the most dangerous components of this grain (mycotoxins) end up in their fat. When humans eat the fat on meat, logic dictates that they will consume high amounts of mycotoxins, which have been linked to more than just cancer. Heart disease, proven to decrease while on the Dr. Ornish diet, is also linked with dietary mycotoxins. Dr. Ornish also abolishes alcohol, itself a mycotoxin! The Ornish dietary program increases living foods like fruits and vegetables, both being antimycotoxic. Most importantly, people following a prescribed diet begin feeling better, exercising more and spending more time outside in the sun (an antimycotoxin). Their need for medication, particularly antibiotics, diminishes. In my opinion, antibiotics, themselves mycotoxins, will likely be proven to be the most dangerous of all medications. Quite simply, Dr. Ornish's dietary recommendations minimize exposure to mycotoxins, while maximizing the antimycotoxic component of healthy living!

Dr. Atkins proposed eliminating all grains from the diet, along with other forms of carbohydrates. Like Ornish, Atkins patients were also recovering, and most puzzling was the fact that heart disease patients and those with high cholesterol were also dramatically benefiting from the Atkins Diet!
Atkins never knew, to the best of my knowledge, that grains were "commonly contaminated" with mycotoxins. He learned that his heart patients did well when they ate meat and eggs and avoided grains. The mycotoxins in meat are really concentrated in the animal fat, not in the red meat. You might recall that in the '70s and '80s, store meat departments began carefully trimming off the fat in order to fight heart disease. Meat also contains conjugated linoleic acids (CLAs), a fatty acid related to the omega-6 fatty antimycotoxic. Both meat and eggs have been called the "perfect amino acid [protein building blocks] food blends." Interestingly, all amino acids are antifungal! Additionally, eggs, the villains of yesteryear, have become a food choice for those recovering from fungal or yeast diseases. As it turns out, dietary cholesterol (egg yolk) does not become blood cholesterol, so eggs don't increase cholesterol levels. Rather, egg yolk is loaded with bio tin (antifungal) and amino acids and therefore is a food that contributes to good health. By avoiding grains on the Atkins Diet, a follower is also avoiding mycotoxins associated with grains in their diet. Atkins allows many vegetables, known to be antimycotoxic. Hence, the Atkins Diet, like the Ornish Diet, minimizes exposure to mycotoxins, while maximizing antimycotoxins!

Both were right, but unfortunately, neither likely understood the ability of fungal poisons to ruin health. Conversely, neither comprehended the incredible healing nature of good food because of its antimycotoxic nature. But now you do!

Yes, diet is important, but understanding why diet is important makes us both prudent consumers AND healthy people!



http://www.healthfood-shop.com/healt...diet_right.php
post #232 of 395
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vxclayborn, I would also say don't serve leftover veggies to a baby, because not only have they lost most of their nutrients while sitting around overnight, they also get full of molds, which are hard on the immune system. And veggies cook quick anyway.
I've recently been wondering about this, because I read recently in a yeast cookbook that one should never eat leftovers. I have always tried to keep our leftovers out of the danger temp range, but never have known how long they were good for. My dh always argued that you heat them back up, so that kills all the bad bugs anyways.

Now that I am really concerned about bad bugs getting in our system, I am wondering about leftover safety, but at the same time, really utilize leftovers to stay sane. Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by mamajaillet View Post
I've recently been wondering about this, because I read recently in a yeast cookbook that one should never eat leftovers. I have always tried to keep our leftovers out of the danger temp range, but never have known how long they were good for. My dh always argued that you heat them back up, so that kills all the bad bugs anyways.

Now that I am really concerned about bad bugs getting in our system, I am wondering about leftover safety, but at the same time, really utilize leftovers to stay sane. Any thoughts?
I eat 'em and don't worry about it--too many other things to worry about I have been trying to eat them up more quickly though, within a day or two.
post #234 of 395
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Originally Posted by Nolansmum View Post
When do I take my probiotics for maximum effectiveness?

I eat fermented veggies with every meal, but when do I drink kefir/take a probiotic supplement? I take Candex on an empty stomach, how does this affect the probiotic?
There's a lot of disagreement about whether probiotics should be taken alone or with food...to me it makes sense that they should be taken with food, since that's how they normally are ingested (ie in fermented foods or BM), and they need food themselves. It seems like you could do kefir either with or without food, though, as there should be enough "food" for the good bugs in the kefir itself.
post #235 of 395
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Hi Caedmyn,

I don't know if I asked you what your regimen is and what you take in detail if possible. With me I first need to go strick with foods. Do you think if I PM/email JaneS and Galeforce they would post what they did. I like to try other peoples choices/remedies that I may have not even thought about.
I do the candida program from the candidasupport yahoo group. Foods are eggs, good fats, meat, and low carb non-starchy veggies. I take a bunch of vitamin/mineral supplements (ie B vitamins, vitamin E, etc) along with evening primrose oil for DD's eczema. I take 2 tsp. high vitamin CLO a day and eat bone broth and about 1/2 c. of CO a day. I also do herbal infusions for liver support (burdock root, dandelion root, milk thistle) and nettle infusion for calcium and minerals. I take about 10 grams of sodium ascorbate a day divided into 3 doses and I take 200 mg of magnesium a day. I take enzymes with meals and right now I'm taking Betaine HCL with meals to help with low stomach acid. I ate 5 cloves a day of raw garlic for several months but haven't been doing that for about a month. I eat lacto-fermented foods at every meal. I drank cabbage rejuvelac 3x/day for a few months but now I just drink 4-8 oz of water kefirs with each meal and a couple of ounces a day of kombucha. Let me know if you want more detail.

I can give you a general idea of what JaneS and GaleForce did--JaneS did the SCD with enzymes (and I believe she did dairy kefir for a while before she started the SCD). GaleForce did the candida diet I'm doing and added yogurt and kefir in after a few months. I think she said she didn't really do any supplementing with her diet.
post #236 of 395
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Originally Posted by caedmyn View Post
I do the candida program from the candidasupport yahoo group. Foods are eggs, good fats, meat, and low carb non-starchy veggies. I take a bunch of vitamin/mineral supplements (ie B vitamins, vitamin E, etc) along with evening primrose oil for DD's eczema. I take 2 tsp. high vitamin CLO a day and eat bone broth and about 1/2 c. of CO a day. I also do herbal infusions for liver support (burdock root, dandelion root, milk thistle) and nettle infusion for calcium and minerals. I take about 10 grams of sodium ascorbate a day divided into 3 doses and I take 200 mg of magnesium a day. I take enzymes with meals and right now I'm taking Betaine HCL with meals to help with low stomach acid. I ate 5 cloves a day of raw garlic for several months but haven't been doing that for about a month. I eat lacto-fermented foods at every meal. I drank cabbage rejuvelac 3x/day for a few months but now I just drink 4-8 oz of water kefirs with each meal and a couple of ounces a day of kombucha. Let me know if you want more detail.

I can give you a general idea of what JaneS and GaleForce did--JaneS did the SCD with enzymes (and I believe she did dairy kefir for a while before she started the SCD). GaleForce did the candida diet I'm doing and added yogurt and kefir in after a few months. I think she said she didn't really do any supplementing with her diet.
Wow thank you so much.

I just about do what you do, but you have it down. I am going to have to be strict with the diet, I have been not so good, but my symptoms aren't that much worse. I am learning what really triggers them more and I am totally afraid of eating sugar again. I have a hard time with the supplements (meaning remembering them). I am almost to the point of doing it the way Galeforce did hers or maybe do a combo like what we do and stick to it. Can you brief me on the diet you are on.
post #237 of 395
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Originally Posted by beachbuminthecity View Post
Did you all know that cinnamon is an antifungal,antibacterial, and (not sure with this one antiviral).

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/n...s/100740.shtml
even better is that it (a) survives digestion (when used in oil form, anyway) and (b) it doesn't completely destroy lactic acid bacteria in our guts (lactobacillus and bifidobacteria, in particular) AND (c) it is effective against E. Coli (the pathogenic kind) and Salmonella. there's science supporting these results.
post #238 of 395
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Originally Posted by formerluddite View Post

question: are there kids that don't pick their nose?
or adults, even... just look around into other cars at a stoplight...
going out on a limb here... i imagine that many of us carry far more parasites than we realize.

i recall reading in Science or Nature (2 prominent scientific journals) that some parasitologist decided that he wanted to see the effects of tapeworms first hand. so he infected himself. as did his entire family. i wonder what happened to him... ETA - Found him! http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/conten...y/292/5514/47a

a snippet: Troubled by asthma? Hay fever? Obesity? Koichiro Fujita has a cure: Swallow a tapeworm. Off and on over the past 5 years, Fujita, a professor of environmental parasitology at Tokyo Medical and Dental University, has hosted tapeworms in his gut. He believes they not only have helped keep him slim but have cleared up his hay fever. He currently houses three. "Hosting the worms has been very beneficial," he says.

very ot... in some biology circles (those that study birds, for example), there's an immunocompetence theory for mate attraction. that female birds are attracted to the males with the highest parasite load (who also happen to have heavy duty mate-attraction ornamentation -- think of the peacock, for example). the logic being that males who can build those ornaments (biologically speaking) and who can be healthful in spite of the parasites are those males who are likely to survive and pass on their genes (that's what life as a bird is like -- passing on one's genes).
post #239 of 395
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Originally Posted by moonshine View Post
My DD's teeth grinding at night as gotten significantly better since we started paying more attention to magnesium. Now, if only I could get rid of the dark circles under her eyes, which have gotten worse since I have actively been trying to do something about them.
mine has gotten better too since i started magnesium. the funny thing about Cina is that it might also help with the dark circles
post #240 of 395
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Originally Posted by mamajaillet View Post
I've recently been wondering about this, because I read recently in a yeast cookbook that one should never eat leftovers. I have always tried to keep our leftovers out of the danger temp range, but never have known how long they were good for. My dh always argued that you heat them back up, so that kills all the bad bugs anyways.

Now that I am really concerned about bad bugs getting in our system, I am wondering about leftover safety, but at the same time, really utilize leftovers to stay sane. Any thoughts?
You can freeze leftovers in serving sizes. I freeze all my baby food and defrost in the fridge overnight only what he eats the next day.

I try to make big batches of everything I cook because I don't have time to prepare every meal from scratch everyday, I don't have enough energy to worry that the leftovers are making me worse.
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