Does anyone know someone that had a rupture?

[joy2bmom]

Just wondering cuz ya hear all the time how risky it is to have a VBAC but i've never actually known anyone to have one. When i first told my dr i wanted to try a VBAC she was horrified she tried so hard to talk me out of it and at the time i didn't know homebirth was an option, thought it was only something grandma's did long ago cuz they didn't have a hospital to go to she told me of the "risks" and said she wouldn't recommend it but get this, after we talked awhile she told me SHE actually had a VBAC 8 yrs prior: I said so why wouldn't you recommend it, she told me the risks have gone up since she had hers, yea right, whatever! So after i had my VBAC and the dr was still stitching me up i asked dh if he wanted to try for another: , the dr imediately said "ya know the risk for rupture goes up with every preg". I don't know what her problem was but i just shrugged it off and continued the plan for VBAC #2, i'm not pg yet but hopefully i will be soon and if i do i will be trying for a HVBAC, DH is Totally against it but i have plenty of time to talk to him So back to the original question: Has any of you known of someone that has had a rupture? Isn't the percentage less than 1%? What is the percentage for VBAC #2?

[egoldber]

There are several mamas here on MDC who have had a UR. Some lost their babies and some did not.

I personally know one other person IRL (besides myself) who had a UR, but hers was not catastrophic and she did not lose her baby.

[minkajane]

I don't even know anyone in real life that's had a VBAC. Of course, I don't know anyone who's had a repeat C-section either. All the people I know have had either initial C-sections (THREE first-time moms including me!) or vaginal births (two, but one was within a hair's breadth of a C-section).

[alegna]

The only person I know who had a rupture, had it on her first birth.

She and the baby are fine. She has another baby now too (by section though- but her choice)

-Angela

[2Sweeties1Angel]

I only know one person, on another site, who had a catostrophic rupture and lost her baby. I don't think I know anyone IRL who's even attempted a VBAC.

[LisainCalifornia]

Yes, I do. I had a dear friend who died from a UR. She had tried a homebirth VBAC and was transferred to the hospital, but they could not operate in time to save her. Her son survived (amazingly) but he has Cerebal Palsy due to oxygen loss. I hate to even think about what could have been if she had took another path, because after the fact the "what if's" will drive you mad.

[wombatclay]

One of my co-workers had a rupture but it actually occured AFTER she had signed the papers for a repeat c/s due to failure to progress. So both she and the babe were in surgery within minutes and both came out fine. She is very pro-VBAC but has told me that for herself she'd never try vbac again.

[MomtoAsh30]

Out of about 8 people I know who've attempted VBACs, 1 ruptured. She ruptured while in the pushing stage. She could feel the pain of the rupture even though she had an epidural. The dr. rushed her into surgery and, although it was a scary, scary experience for her and her dh, she and the baby were fine because they caught the rupture in time. To my knowledge her labor was not induced or augmented, and she had her babies 2.5 years apart.

[joy2bmom]

Wow, i'm so sorry for the losses, it makes me so sad to know it happens that much, well it makes me sad to know it happens at all really,,,, i really didn't think so many of you would know anyone, i just thought you'd come and say its alot more rare than i think and don't worry about it. I mean, i'd still have another VBAC, i would just think harder and do more research on the HBAC before i reach that decision. Does anyone know if the risk for rupture goes up for the second VBAC?

[turtlewomyn]

Only on-line. Not IRL. The risk is less than 1%. So, it is unlikely that in real life you would know someone who had one. I think with today's technology, the world has become a lot smaller, so if you go on-line to VBAC/c-section/UR forums, you are going to find people who actually have had a rupture, making it seem like it occurs much more often than it does.

[Drummer's Wife]

I also don't know anyone IRL that has ruptured and my mom is a midwife who catches vbac babies all the time... she's never had a rupture. There are a few mama's here that have though.

My understanding is that the risk of rupture only goes up slightly with subsequent pregnancies, like I only have a teeny tiny higher chance of rupturing with a vba3c then I would have with a vbac.

[ollineeba]

I don't know anyone who has ruptured.
After reading what you wrote about your doctor, I have to say I'm surprised you ended up VBACing! But that's wonderful that you were able to

[Swandira]

I know several VBAC mamas in real life, but no ruptures except for an online friend on another board. She had a scar that extended upward into the contractile part of her uterus (you would know if this was the case for you), and had a catastrophic rupture at home just from Braxton-Hicks contractions. She hadn't even gone into labor yet. She survived, but her baby died before he could be delivered.

I do know one who had a dehiscence (the baby was unharmed and so was she) with her first VBAC, but her second VBAC was incident-free, and I should also point out that she was induced both times.

Rupture is a really scary idea. I'm really glad I had my VBAC, and that's partly because, like the great majority of VBACs, it was uneventful.

Nealy
Mama to Thales, posterior c/s, 12/9/02, and Lydia, VBAC 2/26/06

[Amylcd]

I know one person who has ruptured (in 'real' life), I've read about many on these and other boards.

I had a large dehiscence which probably would have resulted in a rupture if I had tried pushing.

[scsigrl]

I got the "joy" of driving my friend who had a rupture to the hosp. when it happened. She AND the baby are OK now... well physically. I am not sure she will ever recover mentally and it was really hard for me to deal with as well. DD has a mild CP now. They were able to save her uterus too, as they were not sure the baby was going to make it.

That being said, as a PP mentioned, your risks increase IF you have had a classic (I believe) or "T" section previously. She was ALSO told not to TTC for at lease 2 years after her first birth...she didn't listen to that advice and the kids are 20 months apart. Not sure how much the chances go down if you hold off on TTC, but I would think the longer you hold off, the better the results would be.

[northwoods1995]

I've never met anyone IRL but I've read about several women online.

I only know two people who tried for a VBAC in real life (plus me).

[jengacnm]

Well, being a care provider, I sorta have an unfair advantage...

The only UR I was directly involved with was an HBA2C, who had 2 10 pound babies before. She labored until pushing, did so for 2 hours, then said "I think my scar is separating." No massive problems, baby's heartbeat was fine, her blood pressure was fine, but off we went. I went with her and gave a crisp report to the doc, who said, "Well, let's see where the baby is; if he's low enough we can do a vacuum." He wasn't, so when she did have a c section, she had a small dehisence. So, not a catastrophic rupture, but it would have been if we'd waited. This was another 10 pound baby, BTW.

Before her, the only ruptures I'd heard of were as a labor and delivery nurse, and it was always prior c sections on massive doses of Pitocin.

Jennifer

[TanyaS]

I know someone IRL who had a catastrophic UR. Her baby died, and she nearly died as well. She was laboring at home, felt something was wrong, got to the hospital where they said "baby is fine...let's wait and see" despite her objections and pleading for a c/s. Even though she was planning to have the baby at home, she made it to the hospital on time, but they refused to listen to her as she begged for a c/s (something she never in a million years would have done).

[ericswifey27]

Originally Posted by jengacnm

Well, being a care provider, I sorta have an unfair advantage...

The only UR I was directly involved with was an HBA2C, who had 2 10 pound babies before. She labored until pushing, did so for 2 hours, then said "I think my scar is separating." No massive problems, baby's heartbeat was fine, her blood pressure was fine, but off we went. I went with her and gave a crisp report to the doc, who said, "Well, let's see where the baby is; if he's low enough we can do a vacuum." He wasn't, so when she did have a c section, she had a small dehisence. So, not a catastrophic rupture, but it would have been if we'd waited. This was another 10 pound baby, BTW.

Before her, the only ruptures I'd heard of were as a labor and delivery nurse, and it was always prior c sections on massive doses of Pitocin.

Jennifer

That's what I was wondering. For those that did rupture in a hospital setting, was pitocin administered? I think statistically the chances are much lower without narcotics. I've also heard that most women actually rupture before labor. Does anyone know if that's true?

[ericswifey27]

Originally Posted by TanyaS

I know someone IRL who had a catastrophic UR. Her baby died, and she nearly died as well. She was laboring at home, felt something was wrong, got to the hospital where they said "baby is fine...let's wait and see" despite her objections and pleading for a c/s. Even though she was planning to have the baby at home, she made it to the hospital on time, but they refused to listen to her as she begged for a c/s (something she never in a million years would have done).

That is just horrible.
Doctors perform csections unneccessarily all the time and then when someone truly needs one she is denied? That is so so sad :