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post #41 of 73

I'd want to know, but not TOO early

I, too, wanted to keep things natural. Because of my age (43 at the time), I opted for a 20 week ultrasound. I skipped all other testing. The ultrasound showed two healthy boys in separate sacs. My homebirth plans went out the window, though I looked for a midwife who would do it for the rest of my pregnancy, and thus received little pre-natal care (I saw a doctor two times, I believe).

I suspected twins, though I denied it to myself and everyone else. I didn't have a lot more ms, but I was TIRED. And I felt big, though I wasn't measuring big. My stomach felt huge, especially when I rolled over on it. Plus, a midwife thought she heard two heartbeats (different places, different rates) very early--maybe 12 weeks? And I felt LOTS of movement, also early. I'm a runner, and I got SO out of breath when I ran, much earlier than in my daughter's pregnancy. I chalked a lot of it up to my advanced age. . . and a recent miscarriage.

Still, I was shocked when I saw two beating hearts on the ultrasound. My husband and I just looked at each other, one of those what-have-we-gotten-ourselves-into looks. Our 3 year old daughter was with us, we'd stopped at Target on the way to the ultrasound to buy her a new toy to keep her busy. She had seen twin doll-babies when we were in the week before so I bought them for her. . . Needless to say, the woman who did our ultrasound was amused.

The rest of my pregnancy was VERY stressful. I couldn't find a doctor who wanted to deal with a 43 year old woman who wanted a drug-free, vaginal birth with as little monitoring as possible. Plus, I have herpes. . .

I ended up getting the on-call doctor when by waters broke at 32 6/7 weeks. I got lucky, and had my vaginal birth. Still, the boys were in the NICU for four weeks. . .

I'm glad I found out at 20 weeks. I needed to eat and drink more (and to stop running). And I needed the time to prepare myself for a birth that was not want I wanted, but not as bad as I feared.
post #42 of 73
I was about 4 - 5 weeks, b/c we had to do IVF everything is monitored extremely intensively. We started out with triplets, all doing well at the 8 week u/s but lost one of them (an identical twin to one of our girls) by the time I had my first official midwife visit about 2 weeks later.
post #43 of 73
I took a pee on stick PG test on my 30th birthday and found out I was pregnant. I was about 4 weeks along. I was having friends and family over that day for a small party and my mom was doing angel cards (like tarot cards but with angels). My reading said I was PG with multiples. We laughed and forgot about it.
My doctor suspected I was further along than we thought due to my symptoms so I had an ultrasound to measure how far along I was and there were the twinsies. I couldn't believe it..I was 8 weeks along.
post #44 of 73
I found out by routine US at 21 weeks. It came as a complete surprise. I know my fundal height was high, but didn't process that a 20+cm fundal height at 16 weeks might be more than just a big baby.

I think that was the right time for me to find out. Any earlier and there would have been the stress of what if there is a problem and not being able to do anything about. Any later would have been too late, as it was I was barely used to the idea of having two by the time they were born.

Every pregnancy is different, though. With my next pregnancy the midwife did an US to rule out twins because I was so big, so early. Plus I'd already had a set. That baby was also extremely active, and I felt movement *everywhere* all at once. I wasn't convinced it was a singleton until 36 weeks! Then my last pregnancy was the one where I was the sickest. With the twins I had barely a twinge of nausea, with my youngest I was so sick I lost 20 lbs the first trimester and didn't stop feeling sick until the 3rd trimester, when the heartburn (first time for that) set in.

Regarding going by heartbeats, I wouldn't trust that at all. We did some monitoring with my twins (minor complications) and it was a bear. My girls were never more than 10bpm apart and it was impossible to know if you were hearing A, B or an echo of one of them.
post #45 of 73
I have mixed feelings on knowing or not. I wish I had certainly waited longer than I did to find out it was twins. I was working with a CNM and interviewing HB MWs and at 7+ weeks had an u/s due to spotting. The CNM could no longer see me, no CNMs in the area take on twins and my husband felt very uncomfortable with a HB and we had no established relationship with a MW ugh. So at 7 weeks it turned into a very medicalized pg. On the flip side I did like the time to educate myself on a great diet for a multiple pg and had plenty of time to bulk up my boys. But even having an extra month or two of low key care would have been nicer! However even if I had declined an u/s it would have become pretty apparent, especially towards the end. I ranged from measuring ahead 4-8 weeks and in the last month- 2 months I was pretty large. Oh and the movement from 17-20 weeks was pretty unmistakable for more than one, in fact at one point I wasn't sure I didnt have a whole soccer team in there!

Good luck in your decision!
post #46 of 73
My fundal height was measuring larger at 12 weeks. The midwife was finding it hard to find any heartrate because she was checking low. She finally found one much higher than she thought it should be. We opted for the u/s to be sure, and sure enough, there were two. I didn't have any morning sickness but was showing much earlier than usual (this is my first pregnancy) and even felt movement (at 11weeks).
post #47 of 73
Thread Starter 
How was the movement different? I hardly recall what movement felt like with Jake. I'm 17 weeks and feel (and have been feeling for the last 3 weeks at least) very obvious movement. But how does two feel different from one? Low? High?
post #48 of 73
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How was the movement different? I hardly recall what movement felt like with Jake. I'm 17 weeks and feel (and have been feeling for the last 3 weeks at least) very obvious movement. But how does two feel different from one? Low? High?
I'm glad to see someone ask this. This is my fourth pregnancy (confirmed twins) and I still can't tell the difference between baby and gas until it is clearly a 6 pound kid rolling around in there. Even when I am not pg, I sometimes wake up at night and think 'kid still keeping me awake" and then I realize I'm no longer pg.
post #49 of 73
Twins were my one and only pg, so I wasn't convinced about feeling movement until later than most report. But when I was certain I was feeling babies, I could definitely tell which baby was moving based on which was on the right and which was on the left. My Baby A (left) was extremely active, and would get annoyed if I lay in bed with her on the down side. Baby B was a quiet baby in utero, and I often worried that something was wrong with her (but she turned out fine!). Both of them have the same personalities that they did before they were born!!
post #50 of 73
I have no idea if I should make this a new thread or add it on to this one. Many of you mention that it would be a really good idea to get an ultrasound to rule out TTTS.

I'm 8 weeks along and have been suspecting twins since the day I ovulated: I felt mittelschmertz in each ovary within about a half hour of each other (the first time I have ever felt mittelschmertz from both ovaries in one cycle -- it's usually pretty obvious for me).

On 10 DPO, I felt what I can only determine to be implantation pains at the same time of day, distinctly on each side of my uterus. I tested positively pregnant 2 days later.

With this particular scenario, would TTTS even be considered as a possibility? If what I sense bears out, then wouldn't I be carrying dizygotic-dichorionic twins? If this is the case, then are there any other issues that I would need to be aware of that would necessitate an ultrasound?
post #51 of 73
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Originally Posted by jakesmama View Post
How was the movement different? I hardly recall what movement felt like with Jake. I'm 17 weeks and feel (and have been feeling for the last 3 weeks at least) very obvious movement. But how does two feel different from one? Low? High?
For me from about weeks 17-21 when they got moving I felt movement EVERYWHERE. Really it felt like more than four little objects getting me; I was feeling left, right, up, down all in a short period of time. Truly unmistakable for me!
post #52 of 73
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With this particular scenario, would TTTS even be considered as a possibility? If what I sense bears out, then wouldn't I be carrying dizygotic-dichorionic twins? If this is the case, then are there any other issues that I would need to be aware of that would necessitate an ultrasound?
You are correct -- TTTS is only possible with monozygotic twins (identical) -- when the fertilized egg splits and they share a chorion. So if you felt double ovulation and it turned out to be twins, they would be dizygotic.

But I'm still in the camp of thinking it's good to know, although that's just one mama's opinion. Sure, there is no risk of TTTS with DZ twins, but you can make significant changes to your diet early on and throughout the pregnancy (eating amounts of protein you wouldn't want to eat for just a singleton) that will greatly improve the babies' chances of staying in longer... it gets hard at the end to eat, so putting on some of the weight early is good for you and the babes...

How cool to have felt the double ovulation and maybe double implantation! Let us know if you find out any news...
post #53 of 73
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Originally Posted by jakesmama View Post
How was the movement different? I hardly recall what movement felt like with Jake. I'm 17 weeks and feel (and have been feeling for the last 3 weeks at least) very obvious movement. But how does two feel different from one? Low? High?
I generally felt more baby all over, but baby a's placenta was posterior so i actually didn't feel baby A as much as I could have. Baby A was the more active baby, baby B was more fluid - and true to form, so they are today.
post #54 of 73
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Originally Posted by kettunainen View Post
With this particular scenario, would TTTS even be considered as a possibility? If what I sense bears out, then wouldn't I be carrying dizygotic-dichorionic twins? If this is the case, then are there any other issues that I would need to be aware of that would necessitate an ultrasound?
Only if one of those two eggs splits to make identical twins! :
post #55 of 73
I really didn't feel "double" movement until about the mid-30 weeks mark. Maybe even farther along than that. My kids just each had their distinct side of my belly, and one would have hiccups and the other would be kicking, and I could just feel distinct separate movements.
post #56 of 73
I am a twin (identical). My mom didn't know until 4 days before... our heart beats were in unison, I guess one of us was hiding?


In the back of my mind I have always hoped for twins, but also am concerned as I would have to find a midwife who would be willing (and had the experience) delivering VBAC twins.
post #57 of 73
Thread Starter 
I feel things left and right at this point. More to the right most of the time. Who knows what's going on in there. I am feel MORE movement than with my son, but since each pregnancy is different I don't know what to think of that. I guess we'll see how far ahead I am next week; I see the mw on the 20th.
Slingwearinmama- Holy Cow!!!! 18 lbs of baby?!!!! That's got to be a record of some sort! How much were they individually?
post #58 of 73
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Only if one of those two eggs splits to make identical twins! :
I have two responses:

a) yes, I would imagine that would be absolutely correct.

b) NONONONONONONONONONONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! !

Ahem.

In all honesty, I'm not ruling out U/S; I just don't want it to be the first step in a long and convoluted line of needless intervention. That, and on a very intuitive level, I'm almost positive I have twins and I know who they are. There is no third in the picture on that level. I know that doesn't mean there isn't a third (er, or a fourth if BOTH split), but I really don't think there is. We'll see how things turn out. I'm only 8.5 weeks now, so I've got a long time to figure things out.
post #59 of 73
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Originally Posted by LoisLane View Post
But I'm still in the camp of thinking it's good to know, although that's just one mama's opinion. Sure, there is no risk of TTTS with DZ twins, but you can make significant changes to your diet early on and throughout the pregnancy (eating amounts of protein you wouldn't want to eat for just a singleton) that will greatly improve the babies' chances of staying in longer... it gets hard at the end to eat, so putting on some of the weight early is good for you and the babes...
The main things I would want to discover with a U/S would be placental placement (if either of them are low-lying, partial or complete previa) and confirmation of twins. How early would you recommend getting an ultrasound in order to coincide with the above and with making the necessary dietary changes? I don't want to have one at all, but I do see your point and am not completely against the notion.

I'm currently 8.5 weeks and am only now just starting to be able to stomach protein again after 2 weeks of major food aversion


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How cool to have felt the double ovulation and maybe double implantation! Let us know if you find out any news...
Yes, that was a total shocker -- the double ovulation. Mittelschmertz with me is really fairly obvious, so I KNOW that typically, I only ovulate on one side at a time. I spent about a week in shock because I was SURE I would only have one this time. My sister has had two sets of twin girls completely spontaneously (as in no fertility drugs), so it was something I wanted to be as aware of as possible. And whaddya know, the moment I assure all and sundry that I only ovulate from one ovary each cycle I have to go and ovulate from BOTH on the first cycle of TTC! Gee, thanks, Murphy. :

And yes, I know that just because I typically switch sides each cycle doesn't mean that I won't ovulate twice from the same side. I just didn't think of it at the time, so I guess the universe wanted to make it especially clear to me that, yes, I'm probably going to have twins. Craziness, I tell ya!

I'll definitely let y'all know what I end up finding out whenever that may be.

Thanks!
post #60 of 73
I check this thread every day.. this is a really really good reason- because I am dying to know hahaha

I saw a movie called "She Hate Me" that the woman "felt" herself conceive twins, I thought it was cool at the time (and the movie is halarious btw) and your story kinda reminded me of it.
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