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post #61 of 73
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Originally Posted by kettunainen View Post
How early would you recommend getting an ultrasound in order to coincide with the above and with making the necessary dietary changes? I don't want to have one at all, but I do see your point and am not completely against the notion.

I think that the best time for seeing twins (and chorions) is around 11 weeks, although another mama might remember better than I do. I remember at my 19ish week u/s, the tech saying I should have come in earlier so they could know for sure that it was one placenta and not two fused together (buddy, it was a surprise to me -- sorry I couldn't have predicted twins to make your life easier.) ...Anyway, once he started looking around he had trouble finding the thin membrane between the amniotic sacs (it took all the techs a while to find it every time) and so knowing I had just the one...anyway, I think he mentioned 11 or 12 weeks was best time to see that? Something about a delta? Hmmm.... anyone else have a better memory about that?

I do think that there can be lower risk twin pregnancies and births -- but there are also a lot of things that can go wrong with twin pregnancies (did you ever realize that almost every book about multiples has a chapter called "When one twin dies"). My DH and I talked a lot about a lot of the interventions (we had been planning to go VERY low key) and read a lot, researched a lot, and came to decisions we felt comfortable with. We had way more monitoring beforehand than we had planned when we thought it was just one, and a hospital birth with an experienced OB... and it was still OK-- good, in fact. Anyway-- you are the only one who can come to those decisions with your family.

Just my 2cents as far as preparing goes --the best book for nutrition and preparing for a healthy twin birth is Dr. Barbara Luke's Having Twins, Triplets and More. Elizabeth Noble has a good book as well (includes a homebirth triplet story!) but I am spacing the name (something with Twins in it)... and the best breastfeeding book to prepare for twins is Karen Kerkoff Gromada's Mothering Multiples.

Can't wait to hear what you decide and find out. Good luck -- and congrats on your pregnancy however many there are in there!
post #62 of 73
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Originally Posted by jakesmama View Post
Slingwearinmama- Holy Cow!!!! 18 lbs of baby?!!!! That's got to be a record of some sort! How much were they individually?

They were each 8LBS 15.2 oz (they had the exact same weight) so yes technically right under 18LBs! Abd 3.5 LBs of placentas after that! Gotta love the protein!
post #63 of 73
I have never checked out this particular forum, but was hoping to find some kernel of wisdom from experienced mommies. I had my m/w appt today (19 wks) and she was using doppler to look for the heartbeat. over on the left side she mentioned kicking, no heartbeat, look somewhere else, on the right side, more kicking, no heartbeat (with her eyebrow kinda raised) then found the heartbeat dead center middle, heartbeat 160 and directly kicking the doppler. anyone have this happen? she didn't make any other comments even remotely related to twins but now i am curious.

i am measuring average, i have gained average weight, i am actually not in maternity clothes yet, just a hairband holding my button fly jeans together. as far as movement, i have been feeling it for about a month but am not paying enough attention to it to notice if there is movement in different locations at once. i was a little sicker and a lot more tired this time than w/ DD, i was leaning towards no u/s (DH wants one, i don't, why can't we ever agree???) but now i am am thinking maybe i will. i dunno. at what point can the m/w be almost sure of twins w/o u/s?
post #64 of 73
I didn't have time to read this whole thread but thought I would chime in with my own little story.

I was big very, very early but thought since it was my 2nd pregnancy I was just bigger sooner. I was sicker and more tired, but I was also running after a 2 year old so blamed it on that. I went in to my mw at 14 weeks and my uterus was already up to my belly button so I got an u/s because I just had to know and I wanted to make sure they were in seperate sacks and all. My mw did not measure me at that appt but the next time I saw her I was meassuring 11 weeks ahead! I stayed 11 weeks ahead until the end when I got to 14 weeks ahead! I was incredibly huge and I am sure I would have know either way. I would not have known by movement though, my singleton moved waaaay more. My mw could get both babies hb's but only after we knew there were 2. She had tried before and couldn't get it. I really think that by my size and how much more uncomfortable I was I would have know at some point. Actually I think I knew I would have twins even before I got pregnant. The car thing was an issue for us too and there are carseats and all that too to get in order.

Good luck!
post #65 of 73
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Originally Posted by LoisLane View Post
I think that the best time for seeing twins (and chorions) is around 11 weeks, although another mama might remember better than I do. I remember at my 19ish week u/s, the tech saying I should have come in earlier so they could know for sure that it was one placenta and not two fused together (buddy, it was a surprise to me -- sorry I couldn't have predicted twins to make your life easier.) ...Anyway, once he started looking around he had trouble finding the thin membrane between the amniotic sacs (it took all the techs a while to find it every time) and so knowing I had just the one...anyway, I think he mentioned 11 or 12 weeks was best time to see that? Something about a delta? Hmmm.... anyone else have a better memory about that?
Yup--11-12 weeks is supposedly optimal for determining chorionicity via ultrasound. They look for the lambda sign (a peak) where the membrane connects to the placenta. If it's there, supposedly, you have two fused placentas. Of course, even that's not foolproof--my u/s techs never found a lambda, but after the boys were born the placenta(s) were examined by a pathologist and determined to be fused.
post #66 of 73
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They look for the lambda sign (a peak) where the membrane connects to the placenta.
Lambda, delta... it's all Greek to me (cheesy joke by tired mama).

But I thought the lambda sign meant it wasn't fused, but rather a single chorion? I remember my OB drawing pictures of it on the exam table paper. Doh. I need to go find a book and find out for sure.

I can't wait to hear the news from all these possible twin mamas out there. Keep us posted.
post #67 of 73
in terms of feeling movement mine were facing each other and therefore kicking each other so I never really felt much movement.... one was born with a black eye LOL (seriously)
post #68 of 73
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Originally Posted by flminivanmama View Post
in terms of feeling movement mine were facing each other and therefore kicking each other so I never really felt much movement.... one was born with a black eye LOL (seriously)
I am one of those waiting to know if its twins lol. (Find out 19th) I really think it is but I wanted to say that I dont feel alot of movement but when I listen with fetoscope it sounds like there is a fight happening. Maybe they are facing each other.
post #69 of 73
My first appt with my midwife was at 16 weeks (we were living overseas when we conceived and decided to wait for an appt in the states as long as everything was going smoothly). The second she laid hands on my belly, she said "either you're not 16 wks or you've got more than one in there!"

Since we use FAM, I was pretty darn sure I was 16 wks. She could only find one heartbeat with the doppler, we were sent to an u/s tech the next day. Again, as soon as she put that thing on my belly, she said "yep, it's two!"

This is my first pregnancy so I can't compare symptoms, but my fatigue in the first trimester was MAJOR... I had several days where I felt like I was recovering from the flu or something, but had never been sick. And while I didn't vomit much, my m/s was still pretty intense.

Other than my uterus measuring large at that appt, I haven't gained anymore weight or grown much more than a singleton mama. In fact, a friend of mine has a sister pregnant with twins due 4 days before me and in the 24 hours between our mw appt and us appt, I kept saying - "it can't be twins! she's SO much bigger than me!"

*I just went in this week (18 wks) for a bad cold and my mw was able to find both heartbeats this time. Also this week I started to notice them moving and can distinguish one from the other most of the time.
post #70 of 73
Like many other posters I can say I was more tired early on and within 7 weeks I was out of my reg. clothes! Hugeness Quick!!!! I was also sicker than with the other 3 prev. preg. I did not have that sick feeling all the time like when carrying the twins. I knew early on at 7 weeks they did an u/s because I was having so much pain they thought I may be losing the baby so asked me if I had someone to drive me etc. I know they were thinking I was losing the baby and I thought maybe I was to due to a prev. m/c before the last baby, but nope instead I came out with good joyful news (Double Blessings)!!
post #71 of 73
So, did you find out yet????

My experience: I always thought I'd have twins (before ever ttc even my first dc). Then when I did get pg with my boys, there were really only 2 clues right off the bat - one was that I kept referring to them as "the babies" totally subconsciously, like when I'd either talk about them or think about them, and the other was that I was already in maternity clothes by 12/13 weeks and couldn't hide my pregnancy. Oh, and I measured about 4 weeks ahead for quite awhile and then more than that by the end.

I'm sure I was tired, but I was always real tired in early pregnancy. I actually wasn't hungry (that was new for me compared with my singleton pregnancies) and didn't end up gaining all that much weight over the course of my pregnancy b/c I hardly ever had an appetite. I felt movement at 9 weeks, so that was very early. But this was also my 5th pregnancy (although 2 of those I lost in the first trimester) and I knew I had pretty bad abdominal muscle separation so I thought I was popping out more b/c of that.

I couldn't have told you there were 2 by movement - people always asked that! I suppose I did feel more movement all over the place but I just couldn't remember what it was like before well enough to be able to compare the pregnancies in that way. So in retrospect, sure - lots more movement - but at the time I didn't realize it.
post #72 of 73
We also wanted to avoid any unnecessary interventions. My midwife doesn't do scans, but will recommend them every once in a while...

I started measuring *ahead* early on, and the discrepancy continued to increase. We were very curious, so at 25/26 weeks I went in for a scan and twins were found. That was definitely the biggest surprise of my life!

I'm glad I didn't know the whole time. It was kinda fun springing that on everyone so late in the game. However, I carried them to 41 weeks--so I had more time than I thought
post #73 of 73
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Originally Posted by 2+twins View Post
So, did you find out yet????
I have no idea if this was directed to me or not, but I'm gonna answer it anyway!

I've decided against an ultrasound for now, as I feel confident that they're fraternal and well-placed in my babymaker, so I don't have "confirmation" per se. Here's what I do have:

On top of ovulating on each side and feeling the double implantation, I am 11 weeks 2 days and have gained 9 pounds. Pre-pregnancy, I couldn't gain weight to save my life and suddenly I'm carrying an extra 9#?? Last week, I was gaining at the rate of .9# per day for about 4 days straight. It was a little crazy.

I had my fundal height measured on Monday and I'm measuring at about 14 weeks, so 1-3 weeks ahead, depending on how you want to take measurements.

And I felt them move last week. Flutters on each side independently and simultaneously.

Oh, and I've been in maternity clothes since week 8 or 9.

As far as I'm concerned, I got two and that's that. *grins*
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